So 31-32 Million a team before Tier 3 rights? So could get to 45-50 million a team correct?

Total distributions will be around $50-60M per team per year.

(10-30-2022 10:22 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  So 31-32 Million a team before Tier 3 rights? So could get to 45-50 million a team correct?

Tier 3 now is around 5 million. so 35 to 38 million for TV. total pay out could be 50+ million. pretty good for a conference on life support a year ago.

I wonder how the OG schools feel about this. I know for the new schools this deal is a 100% win.

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(10-30-2022 10:33 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  I wonder how the OG schools feel about this. I know for the new schools this deal is a 100% win.

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They lost Texas and Oklahoma, but they're making more money than currently. I don't think they have any reason to be upset.

Definitely a good day for the B12.

Wow. This is great news! I like the contract period of only 6 years.

Absolute coup for the Big 12. This keeps us on par with the ACC and solidly ahead of the Pac.

Sounds pretty good boys.

(10-30-2022 10:53 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Absolute coup for the Big 12. This keeps us on par with the ACC and solidly ahead of the Pac.

Actually this pushes the Big 12 further ahead of the ACC.

Amusing to think UCF will get more than fsu or Miami, second only to Florida

(10-30-2022 10:22 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  So 31-32 Million a team before Tier 3 rights? So could get to 45-50 million a team correct?

I have no clue where any of you are getting the idea this leaves tier 3 rights out of the deal

nothing at all remotely indicates that is the case.....that COULD be the case, but as of now nothing at all says anything like that

in addition this is really not that large of a jump from what the Big 12 currently makes per member it will be a bump of about $3 million perhaps as much as $4 million per existing member over the final years of the current deal

one has to remember that the Big 12 deal is paying out about $27 million in TV money in the final year and the new deal will scale as well so that $31.67 million in TV money is not a huge bump then there is the fact (that G5ers still cannot grasp) that all of the other money the Big 12 gets to make a payout in TV money jump to $45 million or so in total conference payouts in the final year will now be divided by 12 instead of 10 so there will be a REDUCTION on average there because of two additional teams

and just because that money goes up with the expanded playoffs that does not mean new members had anything to do with anything to contribute to that the Big 12 would receive the same money with 8 members, 10 members, or 12 members so expanding beyond 10 to 12 just splits that money 2 more ways

this is not a horrible deal, but it is hardly a home run and more like a single that looks like a double simply because of the overall low expectations.....there is still the issue of what the PAC 12 gets also to contend with

(10-30-2022 10:33 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  I wonder how the OG schools feel about this. I know for the new schools this deal is a 100% win.

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This is more than I expected when OUT announced the decision to leave and right in the range of what I expected after the league stabilized itself with the additions. I'm content.

(10-30-2022 11:40 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  I have no clue where any of you are getting the idea this leaves tier 3 rights out of the deal

nothing at all remotely indicates that is the case.....that COULD be the case, but as of now nothing at all says anything like that

in addition this is really not that large of a jump from what the Big 12 currently makes per member it will be a bump of about $3 million perhaps as much as $4 million per existing member over the final years of the current deal

one has to remember that the Big 12 deal is paying out about $27 million in TV money in the final year and the new deal will scale as well so that $31.67 million in TV money is not a huge bump then there is the fact (that G5ers still cannot grasp) that all of the other money the Big 12 gets to make a payout in TV money jump to $45 million or so in total conference payouts in the final year will now be divided by 12 instead of 10 so there will be a REDUCTION on average there because of two additional teams

and just because that money goes up with the expanded playoffs that does not mean new members had anything to do with anything to contribute to that the Big 12 would receive the same money with 8 members, 10 members, or 12 members so expanding beyond 10 to 12 just splits that money 2 more ways

this is not a horrible deal, but it is hardly a home run and more like a single that looks like a double simply because of the overall low expectations.....there is still the issue of what the PAC 12 gets also to contend with

It is a raise despite OUT, which most predicted a 40-50% loss

(10-30-2022 10:31 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(10-30-2022 10:22 AM)Bobcats2011 Wrote:  So 31-32 Million a team before Tier 3 rights? So could get to 45-50 million a team correct?

Tier 3 now is around 5 million. so 35 to 38 million for TV. total pay out could be 50+ million. pretty good for a conference on life support a year ago.

AAC is set to raid the B12 and Houston's heading to the ACC

(10-30-2022 11:43 AM)bear2be2 Wrote:  

(10-30-2022 10:33 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  I wonder how the OG schools feel about this. I know for the new schools this deal is a 100% win.

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This is more than I expected when OUT announced the decision to leave and right in the range of what I expected after the league stabilized itself with the additions. I'm content.

It keeps the Big 12 relevant and being paid at or above any conference other than the B1G or SEC. Have to consider that a huge victory as compared to where the conference was when OUT announced the move.

(10-30-2022 11:52 AM)Huan Wrote:  

(10-30-2022 11:40 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  I have no clue where any of you are getting the idea this leaves tier 3 rights out of the deal

nothing at all remotely indicates that is the case.....that COULD be the case, but as of now nothing at all says anything like that

in addition this is really not that large of a jump from what the Big 12 currently makes per member it will be a bump of about $3 million perhaps as much as $4 million per existing member over the final years of the current deal

one has to remember that the Big 12 deal is paying out about $27 million in TV money in the final year and the new deal will scale as well so that $31.67 million in TV money is not a huge bump then there is the fact (that G5ers still cannot grasp) that all of the other money the Big 12 gets to make a payout in TV money jump to $45 million or so in total conference payouts in the final year will now be divided by 12 instead of 10 so there will be a REDUCTION on average there because of two additional teams

and just because that money goes up with the expanded playoffs that does not mean new members had anything to do with anything to contribute to that the Big 12 would receive the same money with 8 members, 10 members, or 12 members so expanding beyond 10 to 12 just splits that money 2 more ways

this is not a horrible deal, but it is hardly a home run and more like a single that looks like a double simply because of the overall low expectations.....there is still the issue of what the PAC 12 gets also to contend with

It is a raise despite OUT, which most predicted a 40-50% loss

that was not a "prediction" at all that was a bunch of stupid people that did not know what they were talking about taking a lot of things that were said dramatically out of context and not understanding the difference between TV money and a total conference payout

nor did they look any of the history of other conferences or the history of past Big 12 media deals to make their stupid "predictions"

they just wanted to assume the Big 12 would fold or collapse to nothing and they were completely wrong

this is only slightly over what navigate predicted and their predictions had the Big 12 undervalued this year and next year anyway so their predicted bump for the Big 12 was accurate for the contract, but the payout from that bump was low because they were using numbers slightly lower than current reality

the good news from that is there is nothing as of yet that indicates that the SEC SEC SEC or Big 10 will get some larger portion of the expanded playoff money as navigate predicts so if shares stay even per conference or if shares are paid based on members per conference then the Big 12 will do slightly better than predicted there as well

if the ACC and PAC 12 are somehow stupid enough to vote to allow the SEC SEC SEC and Big 10 to have larger shares them who knows (and yes those conferences are that stupid)