It’s tough to repeat.

Gotta love the Braves players bitching and moaning about not having any games at night.

So I looked. Braves day games this year.... 26-30 now including playoffs.

Braves got their asses whooped. Bottom line. You have starters pitch like crap like that, you aren't winning.

well, I'd say that the Houston/Seattle and Cleveland/Tampa games the last 2 weeks are pretty much guaranteeing that ghost runners will be back next year.

(10-15-2022 08:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well, I'd say that the Houston/Seattle and Cleveland/Tampa games the last 2 weeks are pretty much guaranteeing that ghost runners will be back next year.

Yup

Great job Padres!!

Let’s go Guardians!!

(10-15-2022 07:01 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Gotta love the Braves players bitching and moaning about not having any games at night.

So I looked. Braves day games this year.... 26-30 now including playoffs.

Braves got their asses whooped. Bottom line. You have starters pitch like crap like that, you aren't winning.

...and the dogs got their asses whooped as well in a series they definitely should have won handily. Perhaps the Yankers will, too. And Seattle but for Robby Ray, might have completed the sweep by the lesser teams.

First Congrats to the Phillies, who had I believe the third-best record after the Braves and dogs after they hired Roberts as their interim manager. They played a great strategy of solid baseball and didn't try to swing for the fences on every pitch. Their game planning against Braves starters was excellent, and as I said before after game 1 against the cardinals, they had the same magic we seemed to have last year. Good for them, they deserved the series win and their fans were great also.

As to your comment, yes it is quite unfair that Braves had to play every game during the day when it would have been more equitable to split the day games between the Yankers and the Braves at least. Baseball's favoritism continues, no doubt, but it is legitimate calling them out. To be sure, if it was the Nats instead of the Braves, they too would have been targeted unfairly by the commissioner's office. All teams deserve a more balanced scheduling opportunity when it comes to day/night games in postseason. And hard not to notice the Braves did win their rain-delayed evening game. Something to thing about going forward as they evaluate the effect of the new expanded playoff format.

I loved, loved, loved not having the ghost runners in the postseason, and it reminds fans why baseball series and playoff games can be so great. Shame anyone had to lose that Seattle/'stors game, but it was absolutely epic and riveting for the full duration. What a great series that was overall to watch. I had said that this year there were several legit teams, and that it would be tougher for all because literally anyone could have a real shot to win.

Next year no more shifting, and I guess we'll have pitch clocks in postseason so it will be very different with all the extra rules changes. Will probably need continued adjusting as not all of them will work the way planned.

If I had my 'druthers, I'd go back to 10 teams in postseason with one-game WC playoff, which seemed like the perfect and fairest compromise tom include WC teams. That won't happen, of course because money. But they might add 14 teams, so 4 WC teams. If so, then play two WC games per league, for 1 game each, then have two WC winners in each League play either 1 game or if they must, 3-game series to determine winner, then have that 1 WC winner play the top seed team. That would be how I'd handle it.

It has been a terrifically enjoyable postseason overall to watch as far as gameplay and drama. Sorry our boys didn't win, but we'll be right there again next season for sure.

The time of day didn't matter. The Braves played like ****. Period the end.

After seeing the new system in place, the new system in some ways hurts the top teams from a structural thing.

now-
game 1- WC 3rd or 4th starter vs 1/2 seed 1st starter- advantage 1/2 seed.
game 2- WC 1st starter vs 1/2 seed 2nd starter- advantage WC
game 3- WC 2nd starter vs 1/2 seed 3rd starter- advantage WC
game 4- WC 3rd or 4th starter vs 1/2 seed 4th starter- push

Dodgers/Padres series a great example of that I think.

The Dogs' lineup went into a collective slump in the NLDS, going 5-for-34 (.147) with runners in scoring position. Freddie freeman hit .357 3 2B, 1 HR 3 RBI, Turner hit .333 2 2B 2 HR 2 RBI and Austin Barnes (who?) hit .667 with 1 2B. The rest, not so much, though it was spread around a bit more than Atl's lineup.

Braves hit a collective .180 in postseason series with Phils. Of note, Catcher Travis d'Arnaud hit .375, 3 2B, 2 HR, 5 RBI and OF Ronald Acuna Jr. hit .333 with only 1 2B, also1B Matt Olson hit .333 with 5 BB, 2 HR and 5 RBI, and 2B Orlando Arcia (subbing for the injured Ozzie Albeis) hit .300 with 1 HR and 1 RBI. The rest of the team did mostly nada, and there you go.

Hitting slumps happen even to the best of teams. even the Astros had trouble getting hits in their Game 3 18-inning, 1 run win in Seattle. Credit good pitching by Padres, Phils and Mariners 9and 'stros as well). Braves won 88 regular-season games last year and won it all. Phils won only 87 this season but look as good as anyone left. Let's see who stays hot in next round and who goes cold.

If you had bet that all 3 of Dogs, Metz and Braves (and heck, throw in the hot-finishing Cards as well) would not advance past 1st round this playoffs, almost anyone would have taken your bet at great odds. It happens. Baseball is still a pretty cool, game, especially in the postseason.

I actually enjoyed watching the Phils play, even though it came at our expense. You could feel their magic and mojo working. That was us last year. it was pretty cool then and it is still pretty cool to see for Philly now. Also, similar magic from Pads vs Metz and then the Dogs go down hard as well. I sure didn't want to face the Pads this postseason, but who really saw the Phils catching fire like they have vs Cards (game 1 was in the bag for St. Louis before their historic meltdown)? almost no one, even many in Philly itself.

Who knows? Maybe the baseball gods have decided to just clear the field for Dusty to finally get his ring? We'll see. Still some very good teams left, and look out, the Yankers can come back and win tonight to advance as well. tell me you didn't enjoy the games so far just from a pure baseball play and excitement perspective, irrespective of rooting for or against any team(s) in particular. 5this is a real fun postseason. I haven't watched any football in weeks, and only a few tape-delayed hockey games and previews so far as that great sport's season gets started. Baseball in October rocks, and being able to go see playoff games in person even moreso. Pretty cool.

(10-17-2022 11:48 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  The Dogs' lineup went into a collective slump in the NLDS, going 5-for-34 (.147) with runners in scoring position. Freddie freeman hit .357 3 2B, 1 HR 3 RBI, Turner hit .333 2 2B 2 HR 2 RBI and Austin Barnes (who?) hit .667 with 1 2B. The rest, not so much, though it was spread around a bit more than Atl's lineup.

Braves hit a collective .180 in postseason series with Phils. Of note, Catcher Travis d'Arnaud hit .375, 3 2B, 2 HR, 5 RBI and OF Ronald Acuna Jr. hit .333 with only 1 2B, also1B Matt Olson hit .333 with 5 BB, 2 HR and 5 RBI, and 2B Orlando Arcia (subbing for the injured Ozzie Albeis) hit .300 with 1 HR and 1 RBI. The rest of the team did mostly nada, and there you go.

Hitting slumps happen even to the best of teams. even the Astros had trouble getting hits in their Game 3 18-inning, 1 run win in Seattle. Credit good pitching by Padres, Phils and Mariners 9and 'stros as well). Braves won 88 regular-season games last year and won it all. Phils won only 87 this season but look as good as anyone left. Let's see who stays hot in next round and who goes cold.

If you had bet that all 3 of Dogs, Metz and Braves (and heck, throw in the hot-finishing Cards as well) would not advance past 1st round this playoffs, almost anyone would have taken your bet at great odds. It happens. Baseball is still a pretty cool, game, especially in the postseason.

I actually enjoyed watching the Phils play, even though it came at our expense. You could feel their magic and mojo working. That was us last year. it was pretty cool then and it is still pretty cool to see for Philly now. Also, similar magic from Pads vs Metz and then the Dogs go down hard as well. I sure didn't want to face the Pads this postseason, but who really saw the Phils catching fire like they have vs Cards (game 1 was in the bag for St. Louis before their historic meltdown)? almost no one, even many in Philly itself.

Who knows? Maybe the baseball gods have decided to just clear the field for Dusty to finally get his ring? We'll see. Still some very good teams left, and look out, the Yankers can come back and win tonight to advance as well. tell me you didn't enjoy the games so far just from a pure baseball play and excitement perspective, irrespective of rooting for or against any team(s) in particular. 5this is a real fun postseason. I haven't watched any football in weeks, and only a few tape-delayed hockey games and previews so far as that great sport's season gets started. Baseball in October rocks, and being able to go see playoff games in person even moreso. Pretty cool.

I was saying to myself that the Phillies remind me of my Nats from 2019. Got the Big 2 pitchers in Wheeler and Nola. Have a bullpen that has holes, but delivers when needed, and that lineup- they have the pop, but who knew that they could manufacture runs like the way they did? I sure didn't. The Braves really with the Strider injury and Morton getting hit by a ball (AGAIN!-how does that happen) had no chance (not to mention whatever bug Fried got- he clearly was compromised in game 1 of the LDS).

It's been an incredible postseason so far.

(10-11-2022 08:13 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(10-11-2022 07:19 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Cheering for all the opening road teams

:middlefinger:

The fickle finger of fate...

(10-17-2022 12:25 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-11-2022 08:13 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(10-11-2022 07:19 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Cheering for all the opening road teams

:middlefinger:

The fickle finger of fate...

This was on the offense for sure. The Dodgers didn't slump IN the playoffs - their team wRC+ from September 18 to the end of the regular season was 85. We all tried to rationalize it as them taking their foot off the gas after everything was clinched, and maybe that's part of it, but it doesn't really matter why. They simply stopped hitting mid September and it never came back. Atrocious numbers with RISP in the SD series. After the first game I think they only got a couple of hits with RISP in the following 3. And let's be clear - they didn't have THAT many guys even get into scoring position. I don't know who or what to blame but I'm sure we'll see lots of words this winter about fault. Lots of folks questioning Roberts' decision making but really that's just details. Nothing he did or didn't do lost this series.

This roster is going to look a lot different next year. Lots of free agents.

(10-17-2022 11:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I was saying to myself that the Phillies remind me of my Nats from 2019. Got the Big 2 pitchers in Wheeler and Nola. Have a bullpen that has holes, but delivers when needed, and that lineup- they have the pop, but who knew that they could manufacture runs like the way they did? I sure didn't. The Braves really with the Strider injury and Morton getting hit by a ball (AGAIN!-how does that happen) had no chance (not to mention whatever bug Fried got- he clearly was compromised in game 1 of the LDS).

It's been an incredible postseason so far.

Exactly. Y'all had your magical year when things broke your way, and it was fun and cool to see. Hope Stras can come back at least some, but seems like he won't ever be what he was and that's a loss for all of baseball.

Morton getting hurt/hit again inm playoffs certainly was a theme for us. Fried didn't pitch badly, Phils just seemed to change who they were and did you recognize how many off the wall swings they had went for hits? And Realmuto's inside-the-parker? I mean, that kind of magic is hard for an opposing team to overcome.

Strider looked like his old self after the injury and long layoff and who knows?, maybe got a bit overconfident there and fell apart or ran asunder. But I mean, the guy's a first-year kid for cryin' out loud. He will likely learn a lot from the adversity in playoffs, but he had a historically awesome year for any rookie pitcher. In my book, as great a Strider was for us, Harris II is my ROY because when the Braves installed him in CF from AA in June, we were really struggling with our OF and Acuna trying to come back. Harris was the unexpected offensive spark from the 7-8-9 that we really needed to change our trajectory. You could tell Strider was something special from the first game I saw him against Cin in ATl on game 2 of year. It was "Who's this guy? he's throwing 100 every pitch out of 'pen and I never heard of him before."

Braves, Dogs and Pads (and Metz) will be good here for a while. Phils have announced they have finally arrived, too. But like everything, things change. Don't sleep on Gints making noise again next year, and those starters in AZ will have something to say in postseasons coming up.

Right now, I will enjoy the rest and the rest of playoffs and root for the game, (and against the Yanks).

(10-17-2022 12:45 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

This was on the offense for sure. The Dodgers didn't slump IN the playoffs - their team wRC+ from September 18 to the end of the regular season was 85. We all tried to rationalize it as them taking their foot off the gas after everything was clinched, and maybe that's part of it, but it doesn't really matter why. They simply stopped hitting mid September and it never came back. Atrocious numbers with RISP in the SD series. After the first game I think they only got a couple of hits with RISP in the following 3. And let's be clear - they didn't have THAT many guys even get into scoring position. I don't know who or what to blame but I'm sure we'll see lots of words this winter about fault. Lots of folks questioning Roberts' decision making but really that's just details. Nothing he did or didn't do lost this series.

This roster is going to look a lot different next year. Lots of free agents.

Just a hypothetical: would you swap Turner for Swanson if you could?

Yeah not sure much what Roberts could do differently. When you only go 5-34 in the series that's tough. And it's not like they were doing great w/o guys in scoring position- only .255 avg there too.

Do you think Justin Turner is done?

(10-17-2022 12:59 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(10-17-2022 11:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I was saying to myself that the Phillies remind me of my Nats from 2019. Got the Big 2 pitchers in Wheeler and Nola. Have a bullpen that has holes, but delivers when needed, and that lineup- they have the pop, but who knew that they could manufacture runs like the way they did? I sure didn't. The Braves really with the Strider injury and Morton getting hit by a ball (AGAIN!-how does that happen) had no chance (not to mention whatever bug Fried got- he clearly was compromised in game 1 of the LDS).

It's been an incredible postseason so far.

Exactly. Y'all had your magical year when things broke your way, and it was fun and cool to see. Hope Stras can come back at least some, but seems like he won't ever be what he was and that's a loss for all of baseball.

Morton getting hurt/hit again inm playoffs certainly was a theme for us. Fried didn't pitch badly, Phils just seemed to change who they were and did you recognize how many off the wall swings they had went for hits? And Realmuto's inside-the-parker? I mean, that kind of magic is hard for an opposing team to overcome.

Strider looked like his old self after the injury and long layoff and who knows?, maybe got a bit overconfident there and fell apart or ran asunder. But I mean, the guy's a first-year kid for cryin' out loud. He will likely learn a lot from the adversity in playoffs, but he had a historically awesome year for any rookie pitcher. In my book, as great a Strider was for us, Harris II is my ROY because when the Braves installed him in CF from AA in June, we were really struggling with our OF and Acuna trying to come back. Harris was the unexpected offensive spark from the 7-8-9 that we really needed to change our trajectory. You could tell Strider was something special from the first game I saw him against Cin in ATl on game 2 of year. It was "Who's this guy? he's throwing 100 every pitch out of 'pen and I never heard of him before."

Braves, Dogs and Pads (and Metz) will be good here for a while. Phils have announced they have finally arrived, too. But like everything, things change. Don't sleep on Gints making noise again next year, and those starters in AZ will have something to say in postseasons coming up.

Right now, I will enjoy the rest and the rest of playoffs and root for the game, (and against the Yanks).

That ITP HR by Realmuto was something. But again and this seems a theme- Acuna didn't hustle over trying to help. On twitter it looked like Braves fans getting tired of him... What are you hearing?

Phillies scare me looking at it far more than the Mets. They have a great foundation, and could add a couple of pieces and wow. Really need to try to lock up Nola long term (and maybe Wheeler only 2 more years of him now).

Sadly for Stras, I'd say odds are at least 50/50 that he's never pitching again. Article here about a month ago that was sobering to say the least.

gonna be interesting for the Dodgers to see how they are next year with no shifts allowed on defense. They were the team that used the shift the most of any team in MLB this year.

Braves will be interesting. Vs LHB, they shifted next to least in MLB to only the Rockies. But vs RHB they were 8th most, and it was a very aggressive shift as well with the 2b well past 2b on the left side.