Any of the libs on this board want to spin this?

(09-23-2022 02:22 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Any of the libs on this board want to spin this?

Why would they care? From what's been said here, they all think only rich people are in stocks so no sweat if stocks go down. Well, at least that's what the MSM has told them to think.

It's not dipping. It's sinking.

(09-23-2022 11:57 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Effin prog filth Marxist loons, they're the reason we can't have nice things.

Speaking of Marxist loons, my post brings me to this. I know it's out of subject but I think the Demon(crats) are doing a misstep in allowing so many Venezuelans to enter freely. They completely forgot that these people were living under a Marxist rule and I'm sure most of them are completely against returning to that type of government which ours is turning into by the Demons work. How many think that Marxism is the way to go when they lost everything their country was until Maduro took over and turned into a California type catastrophe, minus the full grocery stores. I guess they ran out of wild animals to hunt. It's like the Cuban immigrants in Florida, they want nothing to do with Communism.

A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

(09-23-2022 05:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

all I see is a consequence of overspending with the yield lending to the wealth siphon for the boomers and early X'rs that are beginning to cash out coupled with the subsequent gens having to foot the bill ... but Ja!, the market is most definitely regulating itself (as it mostly has over time)...

as for inflation coupled with the US porous border + overinflated blue state $$$ moving to the better regulated/lower taxed red states, what's to stop the pricing increases in raw materials/goods when 20 under a roof demand > 4 under a roof ... if investment $$$ begin to fade while demand increases, you'll have to explain how that will curb the appetite of inflation...

we're in that recessive/stagflation loop at this very moment ... this is the perfect 'rob peter to pay paul' stormy scenario...

(09-23-2022 09:19 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-23-2022 05:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

Does a recession actually "help" food inflation if the real issue is there simply isnt enough food to go around? Im not sure that it does. We will see---but Im not convinced the normal tools used by the Fed to retard demand are going to be as effective if the primary drivers of inflation this time are in fact insufficient supply and production largely caused by Covid shutdowns. No argument that deflating liquidity will probably slow inflation---but if most of the inflationary problem stems from inadequate supply/production issues---then tightening liquidity will actually make it harder for an economy to increase production---which is what you actually need to happen in order for things to return to normal.

(09-23-2022 07:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-23-2022 05:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

Do they? For example----Does a recession actually "help" food inflation if the real issue is there simply isnt enough food to go around? Im not sure that it does. We will see---but Im not convinced the normal tools used by the Fed to retard demand are going to be as effective if the primary drivers of inflation are in fact insufficient supply and production.

#wellDone


the metrics of yesteryear are outdated in today’s enviro - adapt or die is going to become the latest norm as wages will continue to lag with the latent vers. of Econ099 leadershite moving forward….






y’all ain’ seen shite, yet!

Spot on.... the adults are not in charge

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Geiger/statu...isDWQ&s=19

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(09-23-2022 05:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

You’ve diagnosed the problem, but this was preventable.

It’s the consequence of extended lockdowns, war against small business during Covid, global supply chain, and trillions more in government spending. Biden wanted vaccine mandates in the private sector, hurting business activity and recovery efforts. Instead of alleviating economic hardships, he enabled it. Now we are suffering the consequences of woke leaders who care more about trends on Twitter than an average American.

(09-24-2022 09:22 AM)maximus Wrote:  Spot on.... the adults are not in charge

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Geiger/statu...isDWQ&s=19

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he understands, "y'all ain' seen shite, yet!"

(09-24-2022 10:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-23-2022 05:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

You’ve diagnosed the problem, but this was preventable.

It’s the consequence of extended lockdowns, war against small business during Covid, global supply chain, and trillions more in government spending. Biden wanted vaccine mandates in the private sector, hurting business activity and recovery efforts. Instead of alleviating economic hardships, he enabled it. Now we are suffering the consequences of woke leaders who care more about trends on Twitter than an average American.

It really wasn’t though.

This has been coming for sometime now—the end of the Boomer generation in the workforce. That’s the single largest driver of all of this, add to it a pandemic, Russia’s impact on global energy and now food, the erosion of the Chinese and German workshops, and you have the cost of capital skyrocketing.

Bad policies haven’t helped but they are all far too small of movers to be meaningful. They are damaging though in they focus the argument and discussion on minutia and prevent people from seeing the big picture and how to handle it.

Another must read

https://twitter.com/Kingbingo_/status/15...GfYuA&s=19

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https://twitter.com/leadlagreport/status...P1Iyw&s=19

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(09-24-2022 09:22 AM)maximus Wrote:  Spot on.... the adults are not in charge

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Geiger/statu...isDWQ&s=19

That guy was apoplectic. Dude was just making damning - yet ACCURATE - quotes on the Fed actions on the US economy:

"No hard questions! HOW do we have 2.2 million new workers and GDP going DOWN? What does the collapse of commodity prices mean?"

"We are looking at market oriented data and THAT is what the Fed should be looking at!"

"You can't blame high wages for inflation when they are 3, 4, 5 percent BEHIND inflation!"

"This is one of the tightest Feds we have ever had! If it stays this way, there's a MAJOR RECESSION on the other side."

"We (meaning the Fed) are going to be REAL TOUGH GUYS until we crush the economy of the United States."

It's actually SIMPLE once the average citizen rises above this deliberate chaos and grasps the core objective of the Biden* Administration economic policy - destroy the economy and the middle class is destroyed as well.

When they complete this objective, most US citizens will be poor and wholly dependent on the Federal Government.

TOLERATE THIS PLANNED ECONOMIC UPHEAVAL AND PAIN, AMERICA. THE CONSTANT INFLATION. YOUR REAL BUYING POWER BEING DELIBERATELY PUSHED LOWER AND LOWER.

(09-24-2022 02:15 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:22 AM)maximus Wrote:  Spot on.... the adults are not in charge

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Geiger/statu...isDWQ&s=19

That guy was apoplectic. Dude was just making damning - yet ACCURATE - quotes on the Fed actions on the US economy:

"No hard questions! HOW do we have 2.2 million new workers and GDP going DOWN? What does the collapse of commodity prices mean?"

"We are looking at market oriented data and THAT is what the Fed should be looking at!"

"You can't blame high wages for inflation when they are 3, 4, 5 percent BEHIND inflation!"

"This is one of the tightest Feds we have ever had! If it stays this way, there's a MAJOR RECESSION on the other side."

"We (meaning the Fed) are going to be REAL TOUGH GUYS until we crush the economy of the United States."

It's actually SIMPLE once the average citizen rises above this deliberate chaos and grasps the core objective of the Biden* Administration economic policy - destroy the economy and the middle class is destroyed as well.

When they complete this objective, most US citizens will be poor and wholly dependent on the Federal Government.

TOLERATE THIS PLANNED ECONOMIC UPHEAVAL AND PAIN, AMERICA. THE CONSTANT INFLATION. YOUR REAL BUYING POWER BEING DELIBERATELY PUSHED LOWER AND LOWER.

Absolutely purposeful and in 100% coordination with the other global elitist leftists.

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(09-24-2022 02:15 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(09-24-2022 09:22 AM)maximus Wrote:  Spot on.... the adults are not in charge

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Geiger/statu...isDWQ&s=19

That guy was apoplectic. Dude was just making damning - yet ACCURATE - quotes on the Fed actions on the US economy:

"No hard questions! HOW do we have 2.2 million new workers and GDP going DOWN? What does the collapse of commodity prices mean?"

"We are looking at market oriented data and THAT is what the Fed should be looking at!"

"You can't blame high wages for inflation when they are 3, 4, 5 percent BEHIND inflation!"

"This is one of the tightest Feds we have ever had! If it stays this way, there's a MAJOR RECESSION on the other side."

"We (meaning the Fed) are going to be REAL TOUGH GUYS until we crush the economy of the United States."

It's actually SIMPLE once the average citizen rises above this deliberate chaos and grasps the core objective of the Biden* Administration economic policy - destroy the economy and the middle class is destroyed as well.

When they complete this objective, most US citizens will be poor and wholly dependent on the Federal Government.

TOLERATE THIS PLANNED ECONOMIC UPHEAVAL AND PAIN, AMERICA. THE CONSTANT INFLATION. YOUR REAL BUYING POWER BEING DELIBERATELY PUSHED LOWER AND LOWER.

To be fair----the Fed has always been behind in its actions due to relying on lagging indicators as a guide for future actions. They are always late to react and then over correct once they do react. Thats pretty much why its not a good bet to rely on the Fed engineering a "soft landing". They always aim to do so---but are rarely successful in that endeavor.

Here is what makes no sense to me----where are the market forces? If inflation is 8%---why in the hell would anyone lend at less than 8%---especially on the long end of the curve? Clearly---the bond market doesnt believe inflation will be anywhere near 8% for very long and they seem to think 6% will offer a reasonable return rate over the next 30 years. I tend to think the real intent is to keep interest rates low because the current US budget completely blows up if the rate goes too high for too long. That leads me to believe we are pretty much just embracing the Japanese economic debt model because that certainly seems to be the path we are following.

(09-23-2022 05:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

Yes, it's a byproduct of the Fed's interest rate decisions. I consider the market on sale. If any past recessions are an indicator, now is the time to step into the market, not run away.

(09-26-2022 07:51 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-23-2022 05:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A lot of the people crying about this don’t seem to realize these dips and slowdown are helping fight inflation. It’s the market regulating itself.

Yes, it's a byproduct of the Fed's interest rate decisions. I consider the market on sale. If any past recessions are an indicator, now is the time to step into the market, not run away.

Not yet

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