I mean obviously they can, but wouldn't that impact their upcoming contract negotiations (probably well underway behind the scenes even as we speak) since those 7 home ND games would most likely be at one of the two prime spots - 3:30PM and 8:00PM?

And if they did get it, how many ABC slots (not noon) will be available to the ACC?

Just a question. I'm sure there is something I haven't taken into consideration.

Cheers,
Neil

(07-31-2022 01:25 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  I mean obviously they can, but wouldn't that impact their upcoming contract negotiations (probably well underway behind the scenes even as we speak) since those 7 home ND games would most likely be at one of the two prime spots - 3:30PM and 8:00PM?

And if they did get it, how many ABC slots (not noon) will be available to the ACC?

Just a question. I'm sure there is something I haven't taken into consideration.

Cheers,
Neil

Nope, No issues at all! If ESPN gets the ND Fb package they will be able to televise the games!


1. SEC & ESPN announced that they had come to an agreement on a new contract for the first-tier television rights currently held by CBS. The contract is for 10 years, beginning in 2024-25 and running through the 2033-34 season. The new contract adds the following games (15 FB and 8 MBB) to the ABC/ESPN television family! In other words, the games which were previously on CBS will now be on either ABC or ESPN. (not ESPN2 or ESPNU or SECN)

2. ND contract is only for 7 FB home games! For 75M per year, I bet Notre Dame will allow them to air on ABC or ESPN just like the SEC has allowed.

3. The ACC contract - Is flexible (they were all in to get the ACCN launched)
(Tier 1) States that either ESPN, ESPN2 and ABC: The networks will televise ACC games each week, including Thursday, Saturday and a Labor Day Monday telecast each season. The ACC Football Championship Game will continue to be televised each year on ESPN, ESPN2 and ABC.

(Tier 2) ESPNU: continue to televise ACC football. [until ACC Network came out and then ESPNU & ACC Network split tier 2 matchups]

(Tier 3) Syndication: ESPN will sublicense games to Raycom Sports and potentially to additional national outlets. As part of the agreement, Raycom Sports will produce and distribute a package of games for over­ the ­air syndication and for the first time, an additional package of games through regional cable syndication in the ACC markets and beyond.

Since the ACC contract allows tier 1 games to be on ABC/ESPN, or ESPN2 adding the ND FB package is no big deal!

Link of ACC & ESPN Contract
https://wwwcache.wralsportsfan.com/asset...eement.pdf

Thanks that was helpful. I was thinking the 15 games from the SEC and the 7 from ND would all be on ABC, eating up 22 of those 26 slots total from the 3:30 and 8:00 PM time periods.

Still most likely to happen, but knowing a few could go to ESPN as well helps.

Cheers,
Neil

(07-31-2022 02:41 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  adding the ND FB package is no big deal!

https://twitter.com/4LeafCloverGirl/stat...3794572295

under contract w/ nbc through 2025 ...

WORKAROUND

(07-31-2022 04:22 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 02:41 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  adding the ND FB package is no big deal!

https://twitter.com/4LeafCloverGirl/stat...3794572295

under contract w/ nbc through 2025 ...

WORKAROUND

IF NBC goes BIG10 then probably the Irish go CBS or ESPN, I mean CBS was paying 55M for the SEC package I am sure they will pay 75M to ND for those 7 games and then they can either grab BIG12 or Pac12 for some games.

I would rather have ND on ESPN since I am an ACC guy, it would feel better.

Whatever TV deal the Irish end up with, if they are still going to play 5 games/year against ACC teams, I hope those games are all national broadcasts over the air.

(08-01-2022 06:31 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 04:22 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 02:41 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  adding the ND FB package is no big deal!

https://twitter.com/4LeafCloverGirl/stat...3794572295

under contract w/ nbc through 2025 ...

WORKAROUND

IF NBC goes BIG10 then probably the Irish go CBS ESPN B1G, I mean CBS was paying 55M for the SEC package I am sure they will pay 75M to ND for those 7 games and then they can either grab BIG12 or Pac12 for some games.

I would rather have ND on ESPN since I am an ACC guy, it would feel better.

AS WELL

To be (independent) or not to be, that is the question
that Notre Dame football must ask itself...

I really do not want to be on ESPN anymore than we already are at this time.

Give me Fox, CBS or NBC.

(08-01-2022 01:38 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  I really do not want to be on ESPN anymore than we already are at this time.

Give me Fox, CBS or NBC.

Same here.

Wish CBS or NBC could buyout the ACC from ESPN. I know its crazy talk! LOL

(08-01-2022 01:46 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:38 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  I really do not want to be on ESPN anymore than we already are at this time.

Give me Fox, CBS or NBC.

Same here.

Same. It got to the point where I felt like I was watching a very slanted news network that also did sports. So along with cable, I pretty much cut ESPN out of my life aside from borrowing a family members code from time to time for big games.

(08-02-2022 11:06 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:46 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:38 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  I really do not want to be on ESPN anymore than we already are at this time.

Give me Fox, CBS or NBC.

Same here.

Same. It got to the point where I felt like I was watching a very slanted news network that also did sports. So along with cable, I pretty much cut ESPN out of my life aside from borrowing a family members code from time to time for big games.

Interesting. I find that ESPN is more slanted toward Ohio State than any other football program. And it isn't even close.

Not even sure Notre Dame is Top 3 when it comes to this slanted aspect. I suspect Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas are the next three down from Ohio State.

Cheers,
Neil

(08-02-2022 11:32 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:06 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:46 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:38 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  I really do not want to be on ESPN anymore than we already are at this time.

Give me Fox, CBS or NBC.

Same here.

Same. It got to the point where I felt like I was watching a very slanted news network that also did sports. So along with cable, I pretty much cut ESPN out of my life aside from borrowing a family members code from time to time for big games.

Interesting. I find that ESPN is more slanted toward Ohio State than any other football program. And it isn't even close.

[b] I suspect Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas are the next three down from Ohio State.

Cheers,
Neil

Interesting. My take is that since ND football is an NBC property and not an ESPN one, that the latter does its best to ignore, minimize, put down or poke fun at ND as much as possible.

(Except for the couple of prime time ABC games involving ND. Then, they hype the Irish and the game)


I suspect that ND would rank higher on your list if ND football signed a deal with Disney....maybe top three slanted ?

(08-02-2022 09:08 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:32 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:06 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:46 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:38 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  I really do not want to be on ESPN anymore than we already are at this time.

Give me Fox, CBS or NBC.

Same here.

Same. It got to the point where I felt like I was watching a very slanted news network that also did sports. So along with cable, I pretty much cut ESPN out of my life aside from borrowing a family members code from time to time for big games.

Interesting. I find that ESPN is more slanted toward Ohio State than any other football program. And it isn't even close.

[b] I suspect Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas are the next three down from Ohio State.

Cheers,
Neil

Interesting. My take is that since ND football is an NBC property and not an ESPN one, that the latter does its best to ignore, minimize, put down or poke fun at ND as much as possible.

(Except for the couple of prime time ABC games involving ND. Then, they hype the Irish and the game)


I suspect that ND would rank higher on your list if ND football signed a deal with Disney....maybe top three slanted ?

I'm all for it. Knock Ohio State down a peg or two. LOL.

But in all seriousness I hope ND stays indy for the foreseeable future. Maybe the reprieve will give both FSU and Miami the chance to return to their glory years when they and Nebraska were fawned over by the sports media.

Cheers,
Neil

Keep your independence Notre Dame. Don’t sell your soul.

(08-02-2022 10:36 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 09:08 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:32 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:06 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:46 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Same here.

Same. It got to the point where I felt like I was watching a very slanted news network that also did sports. So along with cable, I pretty much cut ESPN out of my life aside from borrowing a family members code from time to time for big games.

Interesting. I find that ESPN is more slanted toward Ohio State than any other football program. And it isn't even close.

[b] I suspect Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas are the next three down from Ohio State.

Cheers,
Neil

Interesting. My take is that since ND football is an NBC property and not an ESPN one, that the latter does its best to ignore, minimize, put down or poke fun at ND as much as possible.

(Except for the couple of prime time ABC games involving ND. Then, they hype the Irish and the game)


I suspect that ND would rank higher on your list if ND football signed a deal with Disney....maybe top three slanted ?

I'm all for it. Knock Ohio State down a peg or two. LOL.

But in all seriousness I hope ND stays indy for the foreseeable future. Maybe the reprieve will give both FSU and Miami the chance to return to their glory years when they and Nebraska were fawned over by the sports media.

Cheers,
Neil

The presence or absence of ND as a quasi-ACC team didn't make or break FSU or Miami. FSU's slow decline in the early 00's was due to a once-great coach (Bobby) hanging on too long. Then his replacement (Jimbo) turned things around in short and tremendous order in the early 2010's. Then he checked out and set the stage for failure just as quickly. Then Willy T happened - enough said. Now Mike Norvell is trying to put things back together and it's a big reconstruction project. We'll see if he's the guy.

As for Miami's lengthy decline, it's a bit more complex in my opinion. But, again, ND doesn't have anything to do with it. And the NIL era may quickly show that.

Quote:Mario Cristobal remains very good for business, just the way Hurricanes administrators envisioned it when they decided to implement a new financial strategy for Canes athletics. ...

UM decided to commit $80 million to Cristobal and millions more to a coaching and support staff based on this business model: Spend money to make money.

U GET WHAT U PAY FOR

(08-03-2022 07:28 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 10:36 PM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 09:08 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:32 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:06 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  Same. It got to the point where I felt like I was watching a very slanted news network that also did sports. So along with cable, I pretty much cut ESPN out of my life aside from borrowing a family members code from time to time for big games.

Interesting. I find that ESPN is more slanted toward Ohio State than any other football program. And it isn't even close.

[b] I suspect Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas are the next three down from Ohio State.

Cheers,
Neil

Interesting. My take is that since ND football is an NBC property and not an ESPN one, that the latter does its best to ignore, minimize, put down or poke fun at ND as much as possible.

(Except for the couple of prime time ABC games involving ND. Then, they hype the Irish and the game)


I suspect that ND would rank higher on your list if ND football signed a deal with Disney....maybe top three slanted ?

I'm all for it. Knock Ohio State down a peg or two. LOL.

But in all seriousness I hope ND stays indy for the foreseeable future. Maybe the reprieve will give both FSU and Miami the chance to return to their glory years when they and Nebraska were fawned over by the sports media.

Cheers,
Neil

The presence or absence of ND as a quasi-ACC team didn't make or break FSU or Miami. FSU's slow decline in the early 00's was due to a once-great coach (Bobby) hanging on too long. Then his replacement (Jimbo) turned things around in short and tremendous order in the early 2010's. Then he checked out and set the stage for failure just as quickly. Then Willy T happened - enough said. Now Mike Norvell is trying to put things back together and it's a big reconstruction project. We'll see if he's the guy.

As for Miami's lengthy decline, it's a bit more complex in my opinion. But, again, ND doesn't have anything to do with it. And the NIL era may quickly show that.

Didn't mean to imply that ND has anything to do with the decline of either FSU or Miami. What ND potentially has an impact on NOW is TIME.

Both FSU and Miami need time to recover - for the Noles it's their hanging on to coaches too long and for the Hurricanes it was Shalala and them trying to "play it above board" at least on the surface.

In the new WILD, WILD openly outlaw era we are now in, the Hurricanes are a good bet to reach former heights. Very few programs are at Miami's level of bending the rules (though UNC may come closest in the ACC they just don't apply it to football - which I think they should -haha - since it would really, really, really help the conference if they could reach the heights they are capable of in that sport). FSU, as you say, needs mostly the right coach.

Cheers,
Neil

(08-02-2022 11:32 AM)OrangeDude Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 11:06 AM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:46 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 01:38 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  I really do not want to be on ESPN anymore than we already are at this time.

Give me Fox, CBS or NBC.

Same here.

Same. It got to the point where I felt like I was watching a very slanted news network that also did sports. So along with cable, I pretty much cut ESPN out of my life aside from borrowing a family members code from time to time for big games.

Interesting. I find that ESPN is more slanted toward Ohio State than any other football program. And it isn't even close.

Not even sure Notre Dame is Top 3 when it comes to this slanted aspect. I suspect Alabama, Oklahoma, and Texas are the next three down from Ohio State.

Cheers,
Neil

Perhaps he was making a reference to something other than sports.