Quote:I bring you some big news on this fine Sunday morning. Rep. Liz Cheney, following another dud of a January 6th committee hearing, has gone on CNN to announce that Donald Trump is, and you may want to sit down for this, unfit for office.

How original, right? I mean, it’s not like Cheney has gone on Jake Tapper’s show and made that exact proclamation more times than my dog has licked himself over the last two years.

Clearly, the walls are closing in. After all, Cheney and her committee recently revealed the game-changing bombshell that Sen. Josh Hawley raised his fist at protesters and later jogged down a Capitol Building hallway, likely after being told to do so by USCP officers. If that’s not evidence of a Donald Trump-led insurrection, then what is?

But I digress, I’m not writing this article to point out the absurdity of the January 6th committee, though I certainly will again at some point in the future. Rather, I want to talk about the delusion that is undergirding Cheney’s coming humiliation.

But as primary day approaches, there is also a pervasive belief among Cheney’s team that her unorthodox strategy in 2022 may put her in a stronger position for the 2024 presidential contest. Cheney’s fierce anti-Trump message as vice chairman of the congressional committee investigating the insurrection has strengthened her national brand while expanding a national network of donors and Trump critics in both parties who could boost a prospective White House run.

I’m not saying Liz Cheney 2024 is the most beltway take I’ve ever seen, but it’s pretty darn close. We are talking about a woman who is about to lose her congressional primary by a wide margin, who was removed from GOP leadership in the House, and who is incapable of saying anything but the words “Donald Trump” over and over. Apparently, that’s what voters will be wanting in two years?

But forget about January 6th for a moment. Even if Cheney were completely disconnected from the topic, what exactly would make her a viable presidential candidate? Her rabid support for boondoggle foreign military interventions? Her liberal record on spending?

The entire thing is delusional, and it’s purely a coping mechanism for the fact that Cheney has burned her career to the ground by locking arms with Nancy Pelosi to chase a ghost. The grand conspiracy she’s been pushing since the day after the Capitol breach has simply not materialized, leaving her to rely on deranged grand-standing along with a media willing to constantly move the goalposts.

That’s all well and good if the goal is to get backslaps from Jake Tapper and Joy Reid, but it’s not a pathway to becoming a presidential contender. The idea that Republican primary voters in 2024 will galvanize around Cheney for “saving democracy” or some such is so farcical as to be dismissed out of hand.

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64% of Wyoming republicans believe Liz opposing Trump is a reason to not support her.

And thats in Wyoming. with her last name being Cheney.

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Just look at her and Tapper's faces. They have scowls built in. Liberals are miserable human beings.

Not liberals, leftists. I’m a liberal—a classical liberal who favors freedom, liberty, and small government—and I have nothing in common with the “progressive” leftists.

Leftists have an agenda that they want to push, and that justifies any and every thing they do to further that agenda. I have seen their vision for the USA, and it is a country where I want to live.

I am ready for the other side (republicans? Conservatives? Whoever) to come up with an alternative and buy into it to the extent that leftists are bought into theirs. Until winning elections means as much to the other side as it does to the leftists, we will continue to drift left.

(07-24-2022 11:57 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Just look at her and Tapper's faces. They have scowls built in. Liberals are miserable human beings.

LOL.

I’d start by saying “Trump hater” is not the same thing as “liberal”, but yeah, point taken.

Aside from that, though, the thing to remember here is that — to people like Tapper/Cheney — this whole thing about Trump and the Worst Thing That Happened In America Since At Least 1865 is all *Very* *Serious*.

Therefore, they have their Very Serious expressions surgically implanted on to their faces by now. And they need for everyone else to get Very Serious, and sit down and have a Very Serious talk with them about how Very Serious this all is. And if you don't go along with it, you are a threat to democracy. Which is also Very Serious, of course.

Cheney Lies On FOX About Trump

Quote:Lyin’ Liz Cheney just went on Fox News and was finally asked the question about whether President Trump authorized 20,000 troops to the Capitol in the January 4th meeting with Kash, Chris Miller, & Milley.

Not only did she flat out lie & deny it, but she even told everyone to go listen to Chris Miller’s own words.

Well let’s take a look at what Chris Miller said alongside Kash Patel in the now famous recent interview with Sean Hannity.

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/07/...nt-n600753

(07-24-2022 12:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Not liberals, leftists. I’m a liberal—a classical liberal who favors freedom, liberty, and small government—and I have nothing in common with the “progressive” leftists.

Leftists have an agenda that they want to push, and that justifies any and every thing they do to further that agenda. I have seen their vision for the USA, and it is a country where I want to live.

I am ready for the other side (republicans? Conservatives? Whoever) to come up with an alternative and buy into it to the extent that leftists are bought into theirs. Until winning elections means as much to the other side as it does to the leftists, we will continue to drift left.

The word liberal has been forever destroyed by far left Democrats and Socialists much like the word gay. Gay meant you were content happy and satisfied until the Homosexuals took it over.

Now, both words have different meanings other than their original intention.

Time to move on Owl. People are not going back to the way it was.

lulz, well now I know why the elitists are scrambling today like mad.

(07-24-2022 01:55 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  lulz, well now I know why the elitists are scrambling today like mad.

Unless he drops dead or doesn’t run, the nominee is going to Trump or DeSantis [if he runs I have my doubts he will run if Trump runs] or Noem

No way does Pence, Nikki or some other Republican establishment type has a prayer in 2024 because the climate isn’t there for them to win Jack

(07-24-2022 02:00 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Unless he drops dead or doesn’t run, the nominee is going to Trump or DeSantis [if he runs I have my doubts he will run if Trump runs] or Noem

No way does Pence, Nikki or some other Republican establishment type has a prayer in 2024 because the climate isn’t there for them to win Jack

A lot can happen in 18-24 months. Obama faced long odds in July 2006. Trump himself faced longer odds in July 2014. So, we shall see what happens.

But I don’t deny that Trump is in the commanding position right now.

(07-24-2022 02:22 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-24-2022 02:00 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Unless he drops dead or doesn’t run, the nominee is going to Trump or DeSantis [if he runs I have my doubts he will run if Trump runs] or Noem

No way does Pence, Nikki or some other Republican establishment type has a prayer in 2024 because the climate isn’t there for them to win Jack

A lot can happen in 18-24 months. Obama faced long odds in July 2006. Trump himself faced longer odds in July 2014. So, we shall see what happens.

But I don’t deny that Trump is in the commanding position right now.

I’ll put it this way: The odds of a non establishment candidate [Trump, DeSantis or a surprise candidate] will be the 2024 nominee is in the 98% range.

Odds of people that align themselves to GOP establishment/RINO club have > 1% range

(07-24-2022 11:27 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:I bring you some big news on this fine Sunday morning. Rep. Liz Cheney, following another dud of a January 6th committee hearing, has gone on CNN to announce that Donald Trump is, and you may want to sit down for this, unfit for office.

How original, right? I mean, it’s not like Cheney has gone on Jake Tapper’s show and made that exact proclamation more times than my dog has licked himself over the last two years.

Clearly, the walls are closing in. After all, Cheney and her committee recently revealed the game-changing bombshell that Sen. Josh Hawley raised his fist at protesters and later jogged down a Capitol Building hallway, likely after being told to do so by USCP officers. If that’s not evidence of a Donald Trump-led insurrection, then what is?

But I digress, I’m not writing this article to point out the absurdity of the January 6th committee, though I certainly will again at some point in the future. Rather, I want to talk about the delusion that is undergirding Cheney’s coming humiliation.

But as primary day approaches, there is also a pervasive belief among Cheney’s team that her unorthodox strategy in 2022 may put her in a stronger position for the 2024 presidential contest. Cheney’s fierce anti-Trump message as vice chairman of the congressional committee investigating the insurrection has strengthened her national brand while expanding a national network of donors and Trump critics in both parties who could boost a prospective White House run.

I’m not saying Liz Cheney 2024 is the most beltway take I’ve ever seen, but it’s pretty darn close. We are talking about a woman who is about to lose her congressional primary by a wide margin, who was removed from GOP leadership in the House, and who is incapable of saying anything but the words “Donald Trump” over and over. Apparently, that’s what voters will be wanting in two years?

But forget about January 6th for a moment. Even if Cheney were completely disconnected from the topic, what exactly would make her a viable presidential candidate? Her rabid support for boondoggle foreign military interventions? Her liberal record on spending?

The entire thing is delusional, and it’s purely a coping mechanism for the fact that Cheney has burned her career to the ground by locking arms with Nancy Pelosi to chase a ghost. The grand conspiracy she’s been pushing since the day after the Capitol breach has simply not materialized, leaving her to rely on deranged grand-standing along with a media willing to constantly move the goalposts.

That’s all well and good if the goal is to get backslaps from Jake Tapper and Joy Reid, but it’s not a pathway to becoming a presidential contender. The idea that Republican primary voters in 2024 will galvanize around Cheney for “saving democracy” or some such is so farcical as to be dismissed out of hand.

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Clearly, her intent is to run as a Democrat in 2024. Thats the only party impressed by this self centered attention whore.

(07-24-2022 04:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Clearly, [Liz Cheney’s] intent is to run as a Democrat in 2024. That’s the only party impressed by this self centered attention whore.

If so, she will have to swallow the Democrats’ entire agenda, A-to-Z. Simply being a high priestess of the Church of the Never Trump won’t be enough.

(07-24-2022 06:40 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Cheney winning the nod for president is about as doable as Gerry finding another of Capones treasures.

(07-24-2022 05:04 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-24-2022 04:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Clearly, [Liz Cheney’s] intent is to run as a Democrat in 2024. That’s the only party impressed by this self centered attention whore.

If so, she will have to swallow the Democrats’ entire agenda, A-to-Z. Simply being a high priestess of the Church of the Never Trump won’t be enough.

I could care less what she swallows. Her Republican political career is over. Let Soros fund that self centered attention whore.