West Coast - Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado, TCU
NE Coast - Pitt, WVU, Louisville, Cincy, SU, and BC
Mid-Atlantic Coast - VT, UVA, UNC, NC State, Duke, Clemson
Gulf(?) Coast - FSU, Miami, GT, Wake, UCF, Houston
ND remains in partial but commitment is raised to 6 games with Stanford being an annual game so no significant difference for the current ACC members or Notre Dame.
Plenty of new markets that TV should like.
Wouldn't that be something if the ACC beat the SEC and B1G in terms of getting to 24?
Perhaps even re-brand the conference as the All Coasts Conference?
LOL
Well it's nice fantasy.
Cheers,
Neil
(This post was last modified: 07-12-2022 09:16 PM by OrangeDude.)
(07-12-2022 09:26 PM)domer1978 Wrote: 6 games no, move it down to 3 and we got a deal.
It's the same deal the Irish have now, just annual opponent Stanford is in the ACC under this fantasy proposal. The Irish may actually be able to negotiate who they will NOT play at all under these fantasy new terms and it gets to keep it's independence and be in a Coast to Coast conference. But it's likely to be a cap of 4 programs that it doesn't have to play.
I think you might be surprised as to who Swarbrick picks as the four. Irish fans always overestimate the difficulty of Irish schedules. though I readily admit they usually have one of the toughest year in and year out. Just not as tough as most on NDNation want it to be.
(07-12-2022 09:15 PM)OrangeDude Wrote: We go to 24 schools in pods of 6
West Coast - Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado, TCU
NE Coast - Pitt, WVU, Louisville, Cincy, SU, and BC
Mid-Atlantic Coast - VT, UVA, UNC, NC State, Duke, Clemson
Gulf(?) Coast - FSU, Miami, GT, Wake, UCF, Houston
ND remains in partial but commitment is raised to 6 games with Stanford being an annual game so no significant difference for the current ACC members or Notre Dame.
Plenty of new markets that TV should like.
Wouldn't that be something if the ACC beat the SEC and B1G in terms of getting to 24?
Perhaps even re-brand the conference as the All Coasts Conference?
LOL
Well it's nice fantasy.
Cheers,
Neil
That’s bold, but there is no need to further solidify the East immediately.
Switch WVU, Cincinnati, UCF and Houston for higher revenue programs (Kansas, Oklahoma State, Arizona and Arizona State).
(07-12-2022 09:15 PM)OrangeDude Wrote: We go to 24 schools in pods of 6
West Coast - Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado, TCU
NE Coast - Pitt, WVU, Louisville, Cincy, SU, and BC
Mid-Atlantic Coast - VT, UVA, UNC, NC State, Duke, Clemson
Gulf(?) Coast - FSU, Miami, GT, Wake, UCF, Houston
ND remains in partial but commitment is raised to 6 games with Stanford being an annual game so no significant difference for the current ACC members or Notre Dame.
Plenty of new markets that TV should like.
Wouldn't that be something if the ACC beat the SEC and B1G in terms of getting to 24?
Perhaps even re-brand the conference as the All Coasts Conference?
LOL
Well it's nice fantasy.
Cheers,
Neil
That’s bold, but there is no need to further solidify the East immediately.
Switch WVU, Cincinnati, UCF and Houston for higher revenue programs (Kansas, Oklahoma State, Arizona and Arizona State).
It's just a fantasy so I suppose any alterations are just fine.
My original chart had Oklahoma State where TCU is now and had TCU where Houston is now. I personally never saw either Arizona or Arizona State viable in this set-up other than maybe one of them taking Colorado's spot. That is not a knock on them but neither of them would be a good fit in any of the other pods, again in my opinion.
So why did I eventually decide against Oklahoma State although they are probably the best football program left in the Big 12? They had an outstanding 2021 season. Which is why I saw them as the third best program in the B12. But when I dived into their viewership numbers from 2013-2019 I expected to see the best remaining football program have better numbers against programs not named Oklahoma or Texas. And while they were the best of the rest it wasn't a significant difference ahead in that time frame with TCU by about 30K viewers per game and Baylor by 200K viewers per game.
Not invalidating their 2021 season but when I looked at the monstrosity of a 24 team league and the need for better recruiting across the board I was probably fantasizing too much about perhaps having two Texas teams (one near the Dallas area) and the other actually in Houston.
It's a huge leap of faith on my part in regards to Houston and I figured that would be the main objection. And it is after all only fantasy, so no harm done and my apologies to all Oklahoma State fans.
(07-12-2022 09:15 PM)OrangeDude Wrote: We go to 24 schools in pods of 6
West Coast - Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado, TCU
NE Coast - Pitt, WVU, Louisville, Cincy, SU, and BC
Mid-Atlantic Coast - VT, UVA, UNC, NC State, Duke, Clemson
Gulf(?) Coast - FSU, Miami, GT, Wake, UCF, Houston
ND remains in partial but commitment is raised to 6 games with Stanford being an annual game so no significant difference for the current ACC members or Notre Dame.
Plenty of new markets that TV should like.
Wouldn't that be something if the ACC beat the SEC and B1G in terms of getting to 24?
Perhaps even re-brand the conference as the All Coasts Conference?
LOL
Well it's nice fantasy.
Cheers,
Neil
You could just go with “Coastal”, instead of “All Coasts”. And use “Big” also, since there would be so many schools. I don’t think “Big” is used quite enough in the names of conferences.
(07-12-2022 09:15 PM)OrangeDude Wrote: We go to 24 schools in pods of 6
West Coast - Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado, TCU
NE Coast - Pitt, WVU, Louisville, Cincy, SU, and BC
Mid-Atlantic Coast - VT, UVA, UNC, NC State, Duke, Clemson
Gulf(?) Coast - FSU, Miami, GT, Wake, UCF, Houston
ND remains in partial but commitment is raised to 6 games with Stanford being an annual game so no significant difference for the current ACC members or Notre Dame.
Plenty of new markets that TV should like.
Wouldn't that be something if the ACC beat the SEC and B1G in terms of getting to 24?
Perhaps even re-brand the conference as the All Coasts Conference?
LOL
Well it's nice fantasy.
Cheers,
Neil
You could just go with “Coastal”, instead of “All Coasts”. And use “Big” also, since there would be so many schools. I don’t think “Big” is used quite enough in the names of conferences.
And there you go, the Big Coastal Conference
Well, the Gulf Coast is water-contiguous with the Atlantic Ocean, so... ACC
(07-12-2022 09:26 PM)domer1978 Wrote: 6 games no, move it down to 3 and we got a deal.
Make Stanford an annual ACC opponent for ND.
Rotate the other four games between the other 14 ACC schools.
Under this fantasy proposal, which I admit isn't going to happen, has Stanford an annual opponent and 5 other ACC schools that will provide more opportunities and flexibility in geography.
So, IF it did happen, which 4 ACC schools do you believe the ND fan base would eliminate from ever having to play again.
I would think the 4, again from the Irish fan base pov, would likely come from the following 10 schools (in Alpha order) - BC, Cincy, Colorado, Duke, Houston, SU, UCF, Utah, Wake, and WVU.
And if you don't want to speak for the fan base as a whole which four would you drop out of the rotation?
(07-12-2022 09:26 PM)domer1978 Wrote: 6 games no, move it down to 3 and we got a deal.
Make Stanford an annual ACC opponent for ND.
Rotate the other four games between the other 14 ACC schools.
Under this fantasy proposal, which I admit isn't going to happen, has Stanford an annual opponent and 5 other ACC schools that will provide more opportunities and flexibility in geography.
So, IF it did happen, which 4 ACC schools do you believe the ND fan base would eliminate from ever having to play again.
I would think the 4, again from the Irish fan base pov, would likely come from the following 10 schools (in Alpha order) - BC, Cincy, Colorado, Duke, Houston, SU, UCF, Utah, Wake, and WVU.
And if you don't want to speak for the fan base as a whole which four would you drop out of the rotation?
(07-12-2022 09:26 PM)domer1978 Wrote: 6 games no, move it down to 3 and we got a deal.
Make Stanford an annual ACC opponent for ND.
Rotate the other four games between the other 14 ACC schools.
Your 5 games per year have already been planned out for you through 2036.
Change them.
Or, ND can drop Stanford as an annual opponent and fill in the gap with games with Cal.
(You said yourself that Stanford is not on ND future schedules after what, 2024?)
No sixth ACC game obligation.
If the Irish don't play ACC teams, just who will they play? The SEC and B1G will each soon have 16 teams, and while I'm sure they'd love to open the season against Notre Dame, I'm no so sure about October and November.
(07-12-2022 09:26 PM)domer1978 Wrote: 6 games no, move it down to 3 and we got a deal.
Make Stanford an annual ACC opponent for ND.
Rotate the other four games between the other 14 ACC schools.
Your 5 games per year have already been planned out for you through 2036.
Change them.
Or, ND can drop Stanford as an annual opponent and fill in the gap with games with Cal.
(You said yourself that Stanford is not on ND future schedules after what, 2024?)
No sixth ACC game obligation.
If the Irish don't play ACC teams, just who will they play? The SEC and B1G will each soon have 16 teams, and while I'm sure they'd love to open the season against Notre Dame, I'm no so sure about October and November.
I'll bet what's left of the American and CUSA would love to get on the Irish schedule, maybe even the Sunbelt.
The bigger conferences get the bigger scheduling problems get for Notre Dame.
(07-12-2022 09:26 PM)domer1978 Wrote: 6 games no, move it down to 3 and we got a deal.
Make Stanford an annual ACC opponent for ND.
Rotate the other four games between the other 14 ACC schools.
Your 5 games per year have already been planned out for you through 2036.
Change them.
Or, ND can drop Stanford as an annual opponent and fill in the gap with games with Cal.
(You said yourself that Stanford is not on ND future schedules after what, 2024?)
No sixth ACC game obligation.
If the Irish don't play ACC teams, just who will they play? The SEC and B1G will each soon have 16 teams, and while I'm sure they'd love to open the season against Notre Dame, I'm no so sure about October and November.
Mock schedule
Oregon St
Tulsa
OSU
Navy
Stanford
MSU
Vandy
Alabama.
USC
Texas team
Florida team
MAC team
I throw this together real quick. We could do it in a pinch.
(07-13-2022 07:55 AM)TerryD Wrote: Make Stanford an annual ACC opponent for ND.
Rotate the other four games between the other 14 ACC schools.
Your 5 games per year have already been planned out for you through 2036.
Change them.
Or, ND can drop Stanford as an annual opponent and fill in the gap with games with Cal.
(You said yourself that Stanford is not on ND future schedules after what, 2024?)
No sixth ACC game obligation.
If the Irish don't play ACC teams, just who will they play? The SEC and B1G will each soon have 16 teams, and while I'm sure they'd love to open the season against Notre Dame, I'm no so sure about October and November.
Mock schedule
Oregon St
Tulsa
OSU
Navy
Stanford
MSU
Vandy
Alabama.
USC
Texas team
Florida team
MAC team
I throw this together real quick. We could do it in a pinch.
Tulsa, Vandy, Oregon State, and a MAC team, but no rematch with Cincy? C'mon, we played in South Bend just last year, right under the nose of Touchdown Jesus. The result should still be fresh in your minds. No burning desire for a trip to Nippert to return the favor and try and reclaim some faded glory? We're just a few hours down the road, and I'm sure your new coach would feel right at home.
(07-13-2022 11:53 AM)XLance Wrote: Your 5 games per year have already been planned out for you through 2036.
Change them.
Or, ND can drop Stanford as an annual opponent and fill in the gap with games with Cal.
(You said yourself that Stanford is not on ND future schedules after what, 2024?)
No sixth ACC game obligation.
If the Irish don't play ACC teams, just who will they play? The SEC and B1G will each soon have 16 teams, and while I'm sure they'd love to open the season against Notre Dame, I'm no so sure about October and November.
Mock schedule
Oregon St
Tulsa
OSU
Navy
Stanford
MSU
Vandy
Alabama.
USC
Texas team
Florida team
MAC team
I throw this together real quick. We could do it in a pinch.
Tulsa, Vandy, Oregon State, and a MAC team, but no rematch with Cincy? C'mon, we played in South Bend just last year, right under the nose of Touchdown Jesus. The result should still be fresh in your minds. No burning desire for a trip to Nippert to return the favor and try and reclaim some faded glory? We're just a few hours down the road, and I'm sure your new coach would feel right at home.
I wouldn't mind it. The Big 12 has attractive games to offer including Cincy. I actually like Cincy. I was just going off of regions ND likes to play in.
(07-12-2022 09:26 PM)domer1978 Wrote: 6 games no, move it down to 3 and we got a deal.
Make Stanford an annual ACC opponent for ND.
Rotate the other four games between the other 14 ACC schools.
Your 5 games per year have already been planned out for you through 2036.
Change them.
Or, ND can drop Stanford as an annual opponent and fill in the gap with games with Cal.
(You said yourself that Stanford is not on ND future schedules after what, 2024?)
No sixth ACC game obligation.
If the Irish don't play ACC teams, just who will they play? The SEC and B1G will each soon have 16 teams, and while I'm sure they'd love to open the season against Notre Dame, I'm no so sure about October and November.
The ND/ACC contract is for five games a year, not six.
(Under the deal, ND provides the dates, the ACC provides the teams. So, there are your open ND November dates if necessary)
I am not saying don't play ACC teams, just limit it to the five agreed to.
ND hasn't had much trouble filling out the other 7 games on the schedule.
ND fans want the status quo, for now, not an increased ACC participation.
(This post was last modified: 07-13-2022 06:52 PM by TerryD.)
