Current SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Current SEC West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Not Placed: Oklahoma, Texas

Plausible ACC Teams: Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville

Plausible Big12 Teams: West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Political Considerations: Kentucky doesn't want UofL in the SEC. The same is not true of Clemson/FSU/GT from what I understand.

Revenue Considerations: If basketball is literally meaningless in the calculations for these media deals (I think it's already pegged to be <25% of the media deal), then Duke's neglect of football may catch up to it, riches be damned.


24 Team Models (48 in a breakway):
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Duke

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Quote:We eliminated Clemson and Florida State because despite how much sense it makes, it's never going to happen. They're more likely to join the Big 12 one day than the SEC. With that in mind, we picked the two teams that not only make sense but that we most want to see join the league that's won seven of the last eight national championships.

Did you know that Georgia Tech and Tulane were founding members of the SEC? Why not just bring them back? Both schools would embrace the move, and Alabama's fight song would make sense again. Nah, the SEC can do better than that. This is the same league that went out and swiped Texas A&M the last time it expanded.

I'm thinking bigger. I'm thinking the program that invented swagger, the program that has won five national championships in the last 30 years, the program that nearly joined the SEC in 1990 when the league first expanded.

I'm thinking Miami.

It's been awhile since the Hurricanes were at the top of the college football world, but you'd think a move to the SEC would help with that. It'd be significant for recruiting as local kids would no longer have to leave town to play in the SEC. Attendance would go up if for no other reason than visiting schools bringing their fans down to South Beach, and it might help the school's chances of landing a new stadium.

From the SEC's standpoint, it makes sense geographically. It would bring back the Florida-Miami rivalry, and who wouldn't want to see Alabama, LSU or Auburn play Miami every couple of years. This should have happened years ago.

If Miami joined, Florida State would once again make the most sense to jump on board, but that's not going to happen. So instead I went the other direction with my second choice. I went with Louisville.

It would continue to expand the SEC's market in that area, it would pair the Cardinals with their in-state rival Kentucky, and it would significantly boost the league in both basketball and football. And how about Bobby Petrino returning to the SEC? Love him or hate him, he's the type of personality that would thrive in this league. He's already shown that once.

If the league sticks to its current model, both Louisville and Miami could join the East and allow for Missouri to move over to the West where it belongs.

https://www.espn.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/...sion-teams

CATBIRD SEAT

(07-01-2022 12:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Current SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Current SEC West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Not Placed: Oklahoma, Texas

Plausible ACC Teams: Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville

Plausible Big12 Teams: West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Political Considerations: Kentucky doesn't want UofL in the SEC. The same is not true of Clemson/FSU/GT from what I understand.

Revenue Considerations: If basketball is literally meaningless in the calculations for these media deals (I think it's already pegged to be <25% of the media deal), then Duke's neglect of football may catch up to it, riches be damned.


24 Team Models (48 in a breakway):
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Duke

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.


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(07-01-2022 08:22 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 12:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Current SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Current SEC West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Not Placed: Oklahoma, Texas

Plausible ACC Teams: Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville

Plausible Big12 Teams: West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Political Considerations: Kentucky doesn't want UofL in the SEC. The same is not true of Clemson/FSU/GT from what I understand.

Revenue Considerations: If basketball is literally meaningless in the calculations for these media deals (I think it's already pegged to be <25% of the media deal), then Duke's neglect of football may catch up to it, riches be damned.


24 Team Models (48 in a breakway):
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Duke

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.


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Kick Mitch out and you're in!

And Lenville, no matter what Louisville is top 15 in earnings and competitive in all sports. Only FSU is ranked higher. Clemson is 26th and third in ACC.

(07-02-2022 12:24 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:22 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 12:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Current SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Current SEC West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Not Placed: Oklahoma, Texas

Plausible ACC Teams: Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville

Plausible Big12 Teams: West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Political Considerations: Kentucky doesn't want UofL in the SEC. The same is not true of Clemson/FSU/GT from what I understand.

Revenue Considerations: If basketball is literally meaningless in the calculations for these media deals (I think it's already pegged to be <25% of the media deal), then Duke's neglect of football may catch up to it, riches be damned.


24 Team Models (48 in a breakway):
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Duke

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.


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Kick Mitch out and you're in!

And Lenville, no matter what Louisville is top 15 in earnings and competitive in all sports. Only FSU is ranked higher. Clemson is 26th and third in ACC.

Not sure where the rumor source came from but on a FB page on Louisville basketball recruiting there was mention of an ESPN source that the SEC is looking strongly at 3 ACC schools to quickly add if they pull the trigger to grow again . FSU, Clemson and Louisville. Just as you stated , the money programs that give current Conference member states instate partners for Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina. Like I said it is rumors on FB

(07-01-2022 08:22 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.

feuds aside ...
Mitch McConnell is a great American ...
happy Independence Day ...

BULWARK AGAINST OPPRESSION

(07-02-2022 07:44 AM)green Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:22 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.

feuds aside ...
Mitch McConnell is a great American ...
happy Independence Day ...

BULWARK AGAINST OPPRESSION

I don’t know how or why Louisville got Miami as one of its three but I am thrilled by it. I have great respect for Miami & love Florida. Have a great 4th!


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(07-02-2022 12:24 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:22 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 12:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Current SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Current SEC West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Not Placed: Oklahoma, Texas

Plausible ACC Teams: Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville

Plausible Big12 Teams: West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Political Considerations: Kentucky doesn't want UofL in the SEC. The same is not true of Clemson/FSU/GT from what I understand.

Revenue Considerations: If basketball is literally meaningless in the calculations for these media deals (I think it's already pegged to be <25% of the media deal), then Duke's neglect of football may catch up to it, riches be damned.


24 Team Models (48 in a breakway):
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Duke

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.


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Kick Mitch out and you're in!

And Lenville, no matter what Louisville is top 15 in earnings and competitive in all sports. Only FSU is ranked higher. Clemson is 26th and third in ACC.

I don’t know if UofL will make the P2 or not, or that Mitch could get them in. I only meant that if UK was the ONLY reason for the SEC to pass on the Cards. Mitch tried to get involved back when UofL was campaigning for a B12 spot, didn’t work out. The SEC has made intelligent & bold moves to put itself in the position it is in today, you have to respect that.


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(07-02-2022 04:11 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  there was mention of an ESPN source that the SEC is looking strongly at 3 ACC schools to quickly add if they pull the trigger to grow again . FSU, Clemson and Louisville.

Sure. A cable TV economy rewards far-flung additions like Missouri and Rutgers. A streaming economy rewards appealing match-ups, and that takes us right back to the geography that originally shaped rivalries.

For all the changes we're in for—and we are in for plenty!—there is this: Many of the cherished traditions people complain of losing in 'the chase of the almighty dollar' are now likely to be reinforced and restored. You want Texas-Texas A&M back? You got it. Oklahoma-Nebraska? Pitt-Penn State? You can get them.

(07-02-2022 04:11 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(07-02-2022 12:24 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:22 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 12:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Current SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Current SEC West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Not Placed: Oklahoma, Texas

Plausible ACC Teams: Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville

Plausible Big12 Teams: West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Political Considerations: Kentucky doesn't want UofL in the SEC. The same is not true of Clemson/FSU/GT from what I understand.

Revenue Considerations: If basketball is literally meaningless in the calculations for these media deals (I think it's already pegged to be <25% of the media deal), then Duke's neglect of football may catch up to it, riches be damned.


24 Team Models (48 in a breakway):
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Duke

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.


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Kick Mitch out and you're in!

And Lenville, no matter what Louisville is top 15 in earnings and competitive in all sports. Only FSU is ranked higher. Clemson is 26th and third in ACC.

Not sure where the rumor source came from but on a FB page on Louisville basketball recruiting there was mention of an ESPN source that the SEC is looking strongly at 3 ACC schools to quickly add if they pull the trigger to grow again . FSU, Clemson and Louisville. Just as you stated , the money programs that give current Conference member states instate partners for Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina. Like I said it is rumors on FB

If so it is math sir. FSU, Louisville, and Clemson are the three strongest earners in the ACC. Miami is 4th, much maligned Duke is 5th, the mighty Heels are 5th, and Virginia 6th. Double hoops value in a breakaway and things shake out a bit differently. Louisville shakes out nicely as a sports business product.

I stuck this tweet info quote from Sankey in here...because after a quick scroll, didn't see a topic thread directly related to what SEC is now doing in realignment.... here is Sankey quoted...

SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on expansion to the Network: Some schools have grant-of-rights "and we're not going to get in the middle of those."



https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/...fRsDKrrjow

(07-18-2022 09:38 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I stuck this tweet info quote from Sankey in here...because after a quick scroll, didn't see a topic thread directly related to what SEC is now doing in realignment.... here is Sankey quoted...

SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on expansion to the Network: Some schools have grant-of-rights "and we're not going to get in the middle of those."



https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/...fRsDKrrjow

Simple majority vote dissolves the GoR. ND has a vote in that. If the SEC goes to 24 out of the ACC (+/- Kansas), there's your votes to kill the GoR right there without even considering who the B1G might want.

(07-18-2022 09:38 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I stuck this tweet info quote from Sankey in here...because after a quick scroll, didn't see a topic thread directly related to what SEC is now doing in realignment.... here is Sankey quoted...

SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on expansion to the Network: Some schools have grant-of-rights "and we're not going to get in the middle of those."



https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/...fRsDKrrjow

https://twitter.com/TheFSSPodcast/status...2577870849

IT’S ALL DOWNHILL FROM HERE

I fully realize double talk and double action happens alot around this stuff....but you kinda wonder if ESPN and Sankey talked in last few days and he's aware they're working with ACC and others to keep us around....

I don't think any of the UT/OU stuff was previewed to the media by Sankey....its a dirty slippery world out there for sure, but if he makes that Big/SEC 4 and 4 move to dissolve ACC/GOR ahead of that quote, then even for him, thats a new gutter move

(07-18-2022 10:09 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I fully realize double talk and double action happens alot around this stuff....but you kinda wonder if ESPN and Sankey talked in last few days and he's aware they're working with ACC and others to keep us around....

I don't think any of the UT/OU stuff was previewed to the media by Sankey....its a dirty slippery world out there for sure, but if he makes that Big/SEC 4 and 4 move to dissolve ACC/GOR ahead of that quote, then even for him, thats a new gutter move

I think it's precisely par for course, no? Anytime powerful conference commissioners say "nothing going on, staying put" I immediately assume the exact opposite and it often plays out that way. Perhaps their legal counsel tells them to maintain plausible deniability. In this case, the networks and the SEC representatives are hashing things out...then they lay out the proposal to the Presidents and the Commish. We didn't see the how the UT/OU and USC/UCLA conference change hot dogs were made. Someday it will be an ESPN documentary when all of the brokers are retired/dead.

(07-18-2022 09:38 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I stuck this tweet info quote from Sankey in here...because after a quick scroll, didn't see a topic thread directly related to what SEC is now doing in realignment.... here is Sankey quoted...

SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on expansion to the Network: Some schools have grant-of-rights "and we're not going to get in the middle of those."



https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/...fRsDKrrjow

Being that both ACC and SEC fly under the ESPN flag it is just a matter of time to totally lock up the eastern Seaboard from B1G and FOX

(07-18-2022 09:42 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 09:38 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I stuck this tweet info quote from Sankey in here...because after a quick scroll, didn't see a topic thread directly related to what SEC is now doing in realignment.... here is Sankey quoted...

SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on expansion to the Network: Some schools have grant-of-rights "and we're not going to get in the middle of those."



https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/...fRsDKrrjow

Simple majority vote dissolves the GoR. ND has a vote in that. If the SEC goes to 24 out of the ACC (+/- Kansas), there's your votes to kill the GoR right there without even considering who the B1G might want.

People keep saying that, but no one has been able to verify it as true. Where is the documentation?
Are ESPN's contracts with the ACC based on a specific membership line up?
One could assume that if Notre Dame had a vote then all of their non-football sports and their away ACC games were also covered by the ACC's GOR?

(07-23-2022 06:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 09:42 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 09:38 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I stuck this tweet info quote from Sankey in here...because after a quick scroll, didn't see a topic thread directly related to what SEC is now doing in realignment.... here is Sankey quoted...

SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on expansion to the Network: Some schools have grant-of-rights "and we're not going to get in the middle of those."



https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/...fRsDKrrjow

Simple majority vote dissolves the GoR. ND has a vote in that. If the SEC goes to 24 out of the ACC (+/- Kansas), there's your votes to kill the GoR right there without even considering who the B1G might want.

People keep saying that, but no one has been able to verify it as true. Where is the documentation?
Are ESPN's contracts with the ACC based on a specific membership line up?
One could assume that if Notre Dame had a vote then all of their non-football sports and their away ACC games were also covered by the ACC's GOR?

ND's legal status as an ACC member and the possible majority vote of the conference to dissolve the conference has noting to do with whether ND's home football games are covered by the GOR.

I think people are conflating things (maybe it is me, lol) but I think the majority vote discussion is about whether a simple majority of conference members can vote to dissolve the conference, not the GOR.

If no ACC, what happens to the GOR? I think that is the issue being bounced around the internet.

Now, whether that will fly is another issue, but I think that is the proposition being discussed......dissolving the ACC, not the GOR.

(07-23-2022 07:44 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 06:38 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 09:42 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 09:38 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  I stuck this tweet info quote from Sankey in here...because after a quick scroll, didn't see a topic thread directly related to what SEC is now doing in realignment.... here is Sankey quoted...

SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey on expansion to the Network: Some schools have grant-of-rights "and we're not going to get in the middle of those."



https://twitter.com/GAllanTaylor/status/...fRsDKrrjow

Simple majority vote dissolves the GoR. ND has a vote in that. If the SEC goes to 24 out of the ACC (+/- Kansas), there's your votes to kill the GoR right there without even considering who the B1G might want.

People keep saying that, but no one has been able to verify it as true. Where is the documentation?
Are ESPN's contracts with the ACC based on a specific membership line up?
One could assume that if Notre Dame had a vote then all of their non-football sports and their away ACC games were also covered by the ACC's GOR?

ND's legal status as an ACC member and the possible majority vote of the conference to dissolve the conference has noting to do with whether ND's home football games are covered by the GOR.

I think people are conflating things (maybe it is me, lol) but I think the majority vote discussion is about whether a simple majority of conference members can vote to dissolve the conference, not the GOR.

If no ACC, what happens to the GOR? I think that is the issue being bounced around the internet.

Now, whether that will fly is another issue, but I think that is the proposition being discussed......dissolving the ACC, not the GOR.

read Terry read.......

One could assume that if Notre Dame had a vote then all of their non-football sports and their away ACC games were also covered by the ACC's GOR?

(07-01-2022 08:22 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 12:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Current SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Current SEC West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Not Placed: Oklahoma, Texas

Plausible ACC Teams: Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, NC State, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville

Plausible Big12 Teams: West Virginia, Kansas, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Political Considerations: Kentucky doesn't want UofL in the SEC. The same is not true of Clemson/FSU/GT from what I understand.

Revenue Considerations: If basketball is literally meaningless in the calculations for these media deals (I think it's already pegged to be <25% of the media deal), then Duke's neglect of football may catch up to it, riches be damned.


24 Team Models (48 in a breakway):
Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State
Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville
Non-FB Members: Vanderbilt, Duke

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson
Tennessee, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas
LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Alabama, Auburn, Vanderbilt
Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Clemson, Tennessee
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Kentucky

Mitch McConnell could make life hell for UK if they are the reason Louisville is left out of the SEC. He is a huge UofL fan. I don’t know if UofL makes it into either the SEC or the B1G but there is a chance. Growing to 20 or more members the B1G will have to drop their AAU requirement.

He’s actually a season ticket holder. I regularly see him and Elaine at the games.