(06-14-2022 12:26 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  I watch the best teams in the ncaa and never watch caa football. I am also max out on giving to uncw. I get 2 all sports passes every year. Uncw is having a hard time funding the sports we have now.

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Sure. Why would you? I don't watch any CAA football either. I bet if we took a straw poll of all UNCW alumni/current students we would get similar results (not watching CAA football).

You're right though. I doubt that would change at all if we had a team in the conference.

(06-14-2022 12:42 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:26 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  I watch the best teams in the ncaa and never watch caa football. I am also max out on giving to uncw. I get 2 all sports passes every year. Uncw is having a hard time funding the sports we have now.

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Sure. Why would you? I don't watch any CAA football either. I bet if we took a straw poll of all UNCW alumni/current students we would get similar results (not watching CAA football).

You're right though. I doubt that would change at all if we had a team in the conference.

Yeah, the athletic programs at UNCW and the possibility of change certainly has nothing to do with a new incoming AD and Chancellor.

We can't discuss the lack of alumni engagement and support and ignore the lack of a football program since they are directly related. And if you have the slightest amount of reading comprehension hopefully gained with a UNCW education you'd have understood that discussion was about replicating what we are missing without football OR adding football, not JUST football.

Anyhow, every school plays at the level they play and people still show up to watch whether it's high school 1a, 4a, D2, FCS, FBS, Campbell, etc. Unless you consider UNCW to be on the level of UNC in basketball, why do you attend "CAA level" games?

It's not about the level of the games it's about the event of going to a football game with friends from college, your kids, your neighbors, tailgating and having a great time. Please tell me what UNCW currently does to replicate that atmosphere for alumni and their families.

(06-14-2022 10:03 AM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote:  If the the new A is not a dynamic fund raiser who can build top notch facilities then it is a miss by what I want and think i necessary. My interaction with new Ad is that might not be her strength if it is then great. Bass missed a tremendous opportunity to make a mark on UNCW with a big capital campaign to bring us on par with other schools.

Would think it would be difficult for athletics to launch a capital campaign since the fundraising arm is under university advancement wouldn't it? And serious question, which public schools should we be competing with from a facility standpoint?

(06-14-2022 11:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 10:56 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I think UNCW has grown beyond simply graduating our athletes with good grades. That should be the goal of every university. We need to devise a plan to increase our fan base beyond just our graduates, some locals and students.

I'd argue they need to start with getting alumni more involved first. Compared to other universities, there is a very small percentage of alumni that actually get involved. I've seen many examples of UNCW alumni giving to wolfpack club, or Rams club etc, when they don't give a cent to UNCW. Example, My wife's college crew is a dozen deep, and not a single one of them is involved or even follows any of the teams or donates. Most of them do very well for themselves too and are mostly spread out between Raleigh and Charlotte. I think we need to start there, and the rest should certainly follow suit.

Stop the presses...you're right on here, and I agree with you LOL!!! Alumni involvement in athletics has to continue to grow. Tough to raise major dollars at UNCW when folks are making their first gifts to the Rams Club, Wolfpack Club, etc.

(06-14-2022 02:00 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:42 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:26 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  I watch the best teams in the ncaa and never watch caa football. I am also max out on giving to uncw. I get 2 all sports passes every year. Uncw is having a hard time funding the sports we have now.

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Sure. Why would you? I don't watch any CAA football either. I bet if we took a straw poll of all UNCW alumni/current students we would get similar results (not watching CAA football).

You're right though. I doubt that would change at all if we had a team in the conference.

Yeah, the athletic programs at UNCW and the possibility of change certainly has nothing to do with a new incoming AD and Chancellor.

We can't discuss the lack of alumni engagement and support and ignore the lack of a football program since they are directly related. And if you have the slightest amount of reading comprehension hopefully gained with a UNCW education you'd have understood that discussion was about replicating what we are missing without football OR adding football, not JUST football.

Anyhow, every school plays at the level they play and people still show up to watch whether it's high school 1a, 4a, D2, FCS, FBS, Campbell, etc. Unless you consider UNCW to be on the level of UNC in basketball, why do you attend "CAA level" games?

It's not about the level of the games it's about the event of going to a football game with friends from college, your kids, your neighbors, tailgating and having a great time. Please tell me what UNCW currently does to replicate that atmosphere for alumni and their families.

Do you think Davidson's athletic program and fanbase has grown because of their football program? How about Elon's? Private schools that are printing money and no one cares. No matter who the next AD is, it's time to give up on this pipe dream of growing the university's athletic profile regionally and nationally through football.

(06-14-2022 02:00 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:42 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:26 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  I watch the best teams in the ncaa and never watch caa football. I am also max out on giving to uncw. I get 2 all sports passes every year. Uncw is having a hard time funding the sports we have now.

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Sure. Why would you? I don't watch any CAA football either. I bet if we took a straw poll of all UNCW alumni/current students we would get similar results (not watching CAA football).

You're right though. I doubt that would change at all if we had a team in the conference.

Yeah, the athletic programs at UNCW and the possibility of change certainly has nothing to do with a new incoming AD and Chancellor.

We can't discuss the lack of alumni engagement and support and ignore the lack of a football program since they are directly related. And if you have the slightest amount of reading comprehension hopefully gained with a UNCW education you'd have understood that discussion was about replicating what we are missing without football OR adding football, not JUST football.

Anyhow, every school plays at the level they play and people still show up to watch whether it's high school 1a, 4a, D2, FCS, FBS, Campbell, etc. Unless you consider UNCW to be on the level of UNC in basketball, why do you attend "CAA level" games?

It's not about the level of the games it's about the event of going to a football game with friends from college, your kids, your neighbors, tailgating and having a great time. Please tell me what UNCW currently does to replicate that atmosphere for alumni and their families.

Well, we do tailgate for 3 hours before every baseball game. Parents are bringing their kids to games. For a number of years now we offered the hill that creates a nice family atmosphere. But there are still other things we could do to make it better. We have a nice sheltered gathering place down the third base line that pretty much just sits there. The last few years the Seahawk Club has done nothing to bring out Club members to socialize together. A great source to grow the Seahawk Club is not being utilized. And that's just one example.

(06-14-2022 03:03 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 02:00 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:42 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:26 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  I watch the best teams in the ncaa and never watch caa football. I am also max out on giving to uncw. I get 2 all sports passes every year. Uncw is having a hard time funding the sports we have now.

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Sure. Why would you? I don't watch any CAA football either. I bet if we took a straw poll of all UNCW alumni/current students we would get similar results (not watching CAA football).

You're right though. I doubt that would change at all if we had a team in the conference.

Yeah, the athletic programs at UNCW and the possibility of change certainly has nothing to do with a new incoming AD and Chancellor.

We can't discuss the lack of alumni engagement and support and ignore the lack of a football program since they are directly related. And if you have the slightest amount of reading comprehension hopefully gained with a UNCW education you'd have understood that discussion was about replicating what we are missing without football OR adding football, not JUST football.

Anyhow, every school plays at the level they play and people still show up to watch whether it's high school 1a, 4a, D2, FCS, FBS, Campbell, etc. Unless you consider UNCW to be on the level of UNC in basketball, why do you attend "CAA level" games?

It's not about the level of the games it's about the event of going to a football game with friends from college, your kids, your neighbors, tailgating and having a great time. Please tell me what UNCW currently does to replicate that atmosphere for alumni and their families.

Well, we do tailgate for 3 hours before every baseball game. Parents are bringing their kids to games. For a number of years now we offered the hill that creates a nice family atmosphere. But there are still other things we could do to make it better. We have a nice sheltered gathering place down the third base line that pretty much just sits there. The last few years the Seahawk Club has done nothing to bring out Club members to socialize together. A great source to grow the Seahawk Club is not being utilized. And that's just one example.

I agree with much of what you said here. I do lean towards giving the Seahawk Club a bit of a break on events over the past few years, since we were under mask mandates, limited attendance, social distancing etc. Not exactly conducive for throwing large parties. Though I do think enough beer and whiskey kills most viruses LOL.

(06-14-2022 02:32 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 02:00 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:42 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 12:26 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  I watch the best teams in the ncaa and never watch caa football. I am also max out on giving to uncw. I get 2 all sports passes every year. Uncw is having a hard time funding the sports we have now.

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Sure. Why would you? I don't watch any CAA football either. I bet if we took a straw poll of all UNCW alumni/current students we would get similar results (not watching CAA football).

You're right though. I doubt that would change at all if we had a team in the conference.

Yeah, the athletic programs at UNCW and the possibility of change certainly has nothing to do with a new incoming AD and Chancellor.

We can't discuss the lack of alumni engagement and support and ignore the lack of a football program since they are directly related. And if you have the slightest amount of reading comprehension hopefully gained with a UNCW education you'd have understood that discussion was about replicating what we are missing without football OR adding football, not JUST football.

Anyhow, every school plays at the level they play and people still show up to watch whether it's high school 1a, 4a, D2, FCS, FBS, Campbell, etc. Unless you consider UNCW to be on the level of UNC in basketball, why do you attend "CAA level" games?

It's not about the level of the games it's about the event of going to a football game with friends from college, your kids, your neighbors, tailgating and having a great time. Please tell me what UNCW currently does to replicate that atmosphere for alumni and their families.

Do you think Davidson's athletic program and fanbase has grown because of their football program? How about Elon's? Private schools that are printing money and no one cares. No matter who the next AD is, it's time to give up on this pipe dream of growing the university's athletic profile regionally and nationally through football.

Apples and oranges on private schools. And as far as alumi engagement, Davidson lucked into one of the best basketball players in the history of the sport which catipluted that team to another level. And I don't see that Elon is someone we would compare ourselves to. And no, I don't agree that we should simply shelve the idea of football. Sorry.

I don't see the purpose of FCS football for us.

I may very well be wrong, but we are surrounded by 5 FBS schools within a 2 hour drive.

Maybe I'm being too pessimistic and we can mimic what App State did at the FCS level. But I just don't see it

(06-14-2022 03:36 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I don't see the purpose of FCS football for us.

I may very well be wrong, but we are surrounded by 5 FBS schools within a 2 hour drive.

Maybe I'm being too pessimistic and we can mimic what App State did at the FCS level. But I just don't see it

But you see us staying in the CAA and the CAA improving.

Yeah. Hard pass on that outlook for me buddy.

Coastal could've come up with the same BS excuses. South Carolina is a small state and dominated with Clemson and Gamecock fans. No sense in having a football team. Lol

Do better.

UNCW and football has been a topic for 25 years at least and literally nothing has happened. Without a huge sponsor stepping forward it seems to be something that just has no traction with the community as a whole . Baseball is a deal here and I think with the right moves it could step forward quickly to compete with Carolina,State etc but Coach Hood and staff are behind the eight ball right now. There is absolutely no comparison in facilities with most of the D1 programs in NC . Raising money has to be a priority at some point if UNCW is going to be relevant on a national level .Players want to come to Wilmington to play baseball and the program deserves a chance to compete for top talent .

25 years ago is a decent span of time.

How much has the student and alumni population changed in 25 years? Are the folks who are ardent supporters of football opposed to funding the other sports, such as baseball that keeps being brought up? It’s interesting to me, reading the back and forth and it seems there’s a lot of vague reasons for pros and cons.

Why can’t a person decide they want to give to baseball and simultaneously financially support football, or even women’s cross country?

(06-14-2022 07:33 PM)Hawk81 Wrote:  25 years ago is a decent span of time.

How much has the student and alumni population changed in 25 years? Are the folks who are ardent supporters of football opposed to funding the other sports, such as baseball that keeps being brought up? It’s interesting to me, reading the back and forth and it seems there’s a lot of vague reasons for pros and cons.

Why can’t a person decide they want to give to baseball and simultaneously financially support football, or even women’s cross country?

UNCW is a pretty big school now, with the majority of alumni having graduated in the past decade and most are living in NC. With football it's the classic chicken and egg dilemma. Football increases giving and revenues without question, but it takes a lot of donations to get it started. UNCW has faced an uphill battle in getting students to come to the school because we don't have football. I can't imagine what our demand and enrollment would be if we added football. Who wouldn't want to come here?

(06-14-2022 03:56 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 03:36 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I don't see the purpose of FCS football for us.

I may very well be wrong, but we are surrounded by 5 FBS schools within a 2 hour drive.

Maybe I'm being too pessimistic and we can mimic what App State did at the FCS level. But I just don't see it

But you see us staying in the CAA and the CAA improving.

Yeah. Hard pass on that outlook for me buddy.

Coastal could've come up with the same BS excuses. South Carolina is a small state and dominated with Clemson and Gamecock fans. No sense in having a football team. Lol

Do better.

Never said the CAA would improve in overall quality or even be ideal. I said the current situation could be made better if travel costs could be reduced.

Coastal invested in their facilities and put themselves in position to get an FBS upgrade offer

That could have been us if we had invested in football during that 90s, early 2000s time frame. We had the better programs and basketball success. We missed the boat.

If we want to get out of the CAA the A10 is our best bet. Invest in basketball, facilities and the chips will fall where they may.

If we commit to football now it will be a very tough road out of the CAA.

(06-14-2022 02:25 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 11:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 10:56 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I think UNCW has grown beyond simply graduating our athletes with good grades. That should be the goal of every university. We need to devise a plan to increase our fan base beyond just our graduates, some locals and students.

I'd argue they need to start with getting alumni more involved first. Compared to other universities, there is a very small percentage of alumni that actually get involved. I've seen many examples of UNCW alumni giving to wolfpack club, or Rams club etc, when they don't give a cent to UNCW. Example, My wife's college crew is a dozen deep, and not a single one of them is involved or even follows any of the teams or donates. Most of them do very well for themselves too and are mostly spread out between Raleigh and Charlotte. I think we need to start there, and the rest should certainly follow suit.

Stop the presses...you're right on here, and I agree with you LOL!!! Alumni involvement in athletics has to continue to grow. Tough to raise major dollars at UNCW when folks are making their first gifts to the Rams Club, Wolfpack Club, etc.

The question is WHY are our alumni giviing to the Ram Club, Wolfpack Club, etc.? Hmm, what do they have that we don't?

(06-15-2022 07:13 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 02:25 PM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 11:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 10:56 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I think UNCW has grown beyond simply graduating our athletes with good grades. That should be the goal of every university. We need to devise a plan to increase our fan base beyond just our graduates, some locals and students.

I'd argue they need to start with getting alumni more involved first. Compared to other universities, there is a very small percentage of alumni that actually get involved. I've seen many examples of UNCW alumni giving to wolfpack club, or Rams club etc, when they don't give a cent to UNCW. Example, My wife's college crew is a dozen deep, and not a single one of them is involved or even follows any of the teams or donates. Most of them do very well for themselves too and are mostly spread out between Raleigh and Charlotte. I think we need to start there, and the rest should certainly follow suit.

Stop the presses...you're right on here, and I agree with you LOL!!! Alumni involvement in athletics has to continue to grow. Tough to raise major dollars at UNCW when folks are making their first gifts to the Rams Club, Wolfpack Club, etc.

The question is WHY are our alumni giviing to the Ram Club, Wolfpack Club, etc.? Hmm, what do they have that we don't?

Well, I promise you the Guys I know that give to Rams club is 1000% basketball.

(06-13-2022 05:36 PM)Hawk81 Wrote:  Tiffany is doing an amazing job. The athletes love her, she’s present with them, engages and has the right tools to get our teams to the next level. There’s no guarantee, but if she gets her shot at it she’d really do great things for UNCW.

Hmmm. "Next Man (or Woman) Up" isn't going to get it done in the world in which college athletics has entered. Unless the new AD (someone on currently on staff, or someone from outside) has the ability to to raise money, facilitate NIL deals, and think outside the box, then they will not be taking UNCW to the "next level". They won't even be keeping UNCW at the level it currently occupies.

Maybe she has great ideas and skills in that area. I don't know. But being 'present ' and having athletes love you is nice, but they are not the tools to take our teams to the next level. The cold, hard, fact is that for schools like UNCW to stay relevant things are going to have to be done in a different way.

(06-14-2022 05:52 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  UNCW and football has been a topic for 25 years at least and literally nothing has happened. Without a huge sponsor stepping forward it seems to be something that just has no traction with the community as a whole . Baseball is a deal here and I think with the right moves it could step forward quickly to compete with Carolina,State etc but Coach Hood and staff are behind the eight ball right now. There is absolutely no comparison in facilities with most of the D1 programs in NC . Raising money has to be a priority at some point if UNCW is going to be relevant on a national level .Players want to come to Wilmington to play baseball and the program deserves a chance to compete for top talent .

I think you should make the lead gift, and publicly, for all the enhancements you think Coach Hood and his staff need. Make sure it's a large enough gift to compete with the NC States and Carolinas. Others will definitely follow. God himself could be named the next AD or Seahawk Club director at UNCW and they're not going to raise the $$$'s needed to compete from a facility or recruiting standpoint with ACC, SEC, hell even American Athletic Conference schools.

Based on this year, hopefully we can find the facility improvements, pitching rubbers, and boxes of balls that get relief pitchers to throw strikes.

In all seriousness the stadium, scoreboard, etc. need to be updated yes. However this program was winning CAA Championships and competing in regionals a few short years ago. I'd hate to see where the program would be now without an indoor facility, turf infield, outdoor batting cages etc.

(06-15-2022 08:54 AM)70shawk Wrote:  

(06-13-2022 05:36 PM)Hawk81 Wrote:  Tiffany is doing an amazing job. The athletes love her, she’s present with them, engages and has the right tools to get our teams to the next level. There’s no guarantee, but if she gets her shot at it she’d really do great things for UNCW.

Hmmm. "Next Man (or Woman) Up" isn't going to get it done in the world in which college athletics has entered. Unless the new AD (someone on currently on staff, or someone from outside) has the ability to to raise money, facilitate NIL deals, and think outside the box, then they will not be taking UNCW to the "next level". They won't even be keeping UNCW at the level it currently occupies.

Maybe she has great ideas and skills in that area. I don't know. But being 'present ' and having athletes love you is nice, but they are not the tools to take our teams to the next level. The cold, hard, fact is that for schools like UNCW to stay relevant things are going to have to be done in a different way.

What exactly is the next level for UNCW athletics? I'm always for advancing as far as possible in postseason play, but almost every program is competing for conference championships regularly and then unfortunately we live in a region where a majority of those programs are going to play at a powerhouse program within driving distance for the opportunity to advance.

For UNCW to be at the next level, the P5/6 programs have to go do their own thing. Teams at this level competing nationally is the exception, not the norm. Hell College of Charleston's golf program (who beat UNCW by 19 shots I think) advanced to the NCAA Finals this year, then proceeded to miss the cut by 40 strokes behind UNC, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Auburn, etc. The College World Series has Texas, Notre Dame, Stanford, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Auburn. The gap between mid-major programs and those around us in the region is only going to keep growing. Graduating student-athletes, competing for/winning conference championships, and competing in NCAA postseason events seems like a pretty good goal for this department.

(06-15-2022 08:59 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(06-14-2022 05:52 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  UNCW and football has been a topic for 25 years at least and literally nothing has happened. Without a huge sponsor stepping forward it seems to be something that just has no traction with the community as a whole . Baseball is a deal here and I think with the right moves it could step forward quickly to compete with Carolina,State etc but Coach Hood and staff are behind the eight ball right now. There is absolutely no comparison in facilities with most of the D1 programs in NC . Raising money has to be a priority at some point if UNCW is going to be relevant on a national level .Players want to come to Wilmington to play baseball and the program deserves a chance to compete for top talent .

God himself could be named the next AD or Seahawk Club director at UNCW and they're not going to raise the $$$'s needed to compete from a facility or recruiting standpoint with ACC, SEC, hell even American Athletic Conference Schools.

This is offensive.