Quote:The last several weeks have been full of consternation from the left and right over Gov. Ron DeSantis’ move to strip The Walt Disney Company of its special-governing status. That followed a fierce public battle in which Disney trashed Florida’s new Parental Rights in Education law, vowing to see it overturned. That law simply forbids the teaching of sexuality or so-called “gender theory” to small children, K-3rd grade.

Things really touched off, though, once a leaked video from an internal Disney meeting showed producers and executives talking about a “not-so-secret gay agenda” and the forcing of sexuality into programming meant for kids.

Whether DeSantis had the power to do what he did has never really been in question. Clearly, corporations are not legally entitled to their own fiefdoms at the expense of taxpayers. Rather, philosophical arguments have taken center stage. Namely, whether the Florida governor’s move qualifies as suppressing free speech.

Still, it appears the decision is already paying dividends. According to The Wall Street Journal, CEOs are rethinking going woke and asking how they can stay out of the firing line in the future.

In private meetings and coaching sessions over the past few weeks, top business leaders have been asking a version of the same question: How can we avoid becoming the next Walt Disney

The fallout from the recent political spat between Disney and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has alarmed leaders across the corporate sphere, according to executives and their advisers, and heightened the challenges for chief executive officers navigating charged topics.

The rest is behind a paywall, but you get the idea. After what DeSantis did, top business leaders are concerned that they could lose special tax benefits and other crony-capitalist arrangements that give them an advantage over normal people.

My answer? Good.

I know some on the right disagree with me, and I’ve made peace with that. If we all agreed all the time, life would be really boring, would it not? Even those here at RedState who hold a different opinion are still my friends, and we’ll be right back in the foxhole together on the next issue. But on this one, I simply find nothing wrong with a corporation that voluntarily made itself a ward of the state suffering the consequences of such an arrangement. If crony capitalism is going to carry benefits, it should carry risks as well, and the chief risk is being beholden to the taxpayers who are funding those special carveouts.

Look, I don’t want this to have to go any further. I don’t want a full-scale war between normal Americans and major corporations. I understand the value of both to the society we’ve built. That’s why DeSantis’ brushback pitch was so important. It’s a chance to reset the clock and signal that it’s time for everyone to take a step back. If companies want to lobby for lower taxes or other policies that are within their purview, go ahead. But if they want to go woke and start promoting the sexualization of children, there will be pushback.

Do I wish it didn’t have to come to this? Sure, it would have been nice had these mega-corporations not decided to become government apparatchiks, far too often pushing damaging far-left agendas. But that’s not the world we live in. You can fight on the ground that exists, or you can keep hoping for something else. DeSantis decided to take the former path. I’m not going to fault him for that.

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The platitudes old style Republicans live by have become platitudes to die by.

Go woke go broke is a thing.

If you needed another reason to vote Desantis in 2024, there it is. Standing up to the woke leftards.

(05-02-2022 07:49 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  If you needed another reason to vote Desantis in 2024, there it is. Standing up to the woke leftards.

it's not a close second unless #groverII materializes ... even DeSantis won't touch that as thingys continue to play out...

Trump would own him in a debate simply on plagiarism alone .... and that's a good problem to have...

Tulsi in '24 should be the RNC's focus TODAY!

@centerVScenter

Where are the libs?

(05-02-2022 09:35 PM)450bench Wrote:  Where are the libs?

the buoys were forced to cut hrs.?!

Well, the Republican Governor of Arkansas disagrees with what DeSantis did to Disney.
This cousin loving retard is actually talking about running for President. What a moron.

Quote:"Let's do the right thing,’ he said. "It's a fair debate about these special tax privileges. I understand that debate. But let's not go after businesses and punish them because we disagree with what they said."

CNN host Dana Bash pressed, "So DeSantis overstepped?"

"Well, I disagree with it," Hutchinson responded. "I disagree with a punitive approach to businesses."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desanti...hutchinson

(05-02-2022 10:03 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Well, the Republican Governor of Arkansas disagrees with what DeSantis did to Disney.
This cousin loving retard is actually talking about running for President. What a moron.

Quote:"Let's do the right thing,’ he said. "It's a fair debate about these special tax privileges. I understand that debate. But let's not go after businesses and punish them because we disagree with what they said."

CNN host Dana Bash pressed, "So DeSantis overstepped?"

"Well, I disagree with it," Hutchinson responded. "I disagree with a punitive approach to businesses."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desanti...hutchinson

yeah ... good luck with that approach moving forward, dick-brain....

#arkan-sauced

(05-02-2022 08:06 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-02-2022 07:49 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  If you needed another reason to vote Desantis in 2024, there it is. Standing up to the woke leftards.

it's not a close second unless #groverII materializes ... even DeSantis won't touch that as thingys continue to play out...

Trump would own him in a debate simply on plagiarism alone .... and that's a good problem to have...

Tulsi in '24 should be the RNC's focus TODAY!

@centerVScenter

Nope! It's pretty damn simple. Do everything, no holds barred, to win this damn election, because if this one is FUBAR nobody is ever going to trust the GOP again! And who the hell would Tulsi have to work with in '24 if they take Dominion up the ass again in '22?-!!!

(05-02-2022 10:03 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Well, the Republican Governor of Arkansas disagrees with what DeSantis did to Disney.
This cousin loving retard is actually talking about running for President. What a moron.

Quote:"Let's do the right thing,’ he said. "It's a fair debate about these special tax privileges. I understand that debate. But let's not go after businesses and punish them because we disagree with what they said."

CNN host Dana Bash pressed, "So DeSantis overstepped?"

"Well, I disagree with it," Hutchinson responded. "I disagree with a punitive approach to businesses."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desanti...hutchinson

Hutchison is simply wishy-washy and a rino. He's term limited out of office, but I'm not sure he could have survived a primary again.

Unfortunately, I don't think most companies get the message. Disney's situation is one-of-a-kind, and everyone knows it.

Disney is unique in a lot of ways, but two stand out:
1) It reaps large benefits from government largesse - how many other companies run their own local government?
2) It is one of the most visible companies in the world - every voter is intimately familiar with them

Most woke CEOs will continue their advocacy until it hits closer to home for them.

(05-02-2022 08:06 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-02-2022 07:49 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  If you needed another reason to vote Desantis in 2024, there it is. Standing up to the woke leftards.

it's not a close second unless #groverII materializes ... even DeSantis won't touch that as thingys continue to play out...

Trump would own him in a debate simply on plagiarism alone .... and that's a good problem to have...

Tulsi in '24 should be the RNC's focus TODAY!

@centerVScenter

We won't know the effects good or bad on this one for years. Heck, the dissolving of the Special District is still 14 months away. So stories up in the OP are worthless at best.

(05-03-2022 10:13 AM)fsquid Wrote:  We won't know the effects good or bad on this one for years. Heck, the dissolving of the Special District is still 14 months away. So stories up in the OP are worthless at best.

LOL, the Reedy Creek will not be dissolved in the end. There are 14 months where Disney will work out a deal with Florida, most likely a new CEO and probably some new board members. Disney will become much more apolitical in the end - as it should be.

(05-03-2022 10:25 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:13 AM)fsquid Wrote:  We won't know the effects good or bad on this one for years. Heck, the dissolving of the Special District is still 14 months away. So stories up in the OP are worthless at best.

LOL, the Reedy Creek will not be dissolved in the end. There are 14 months where Disney will work out a deal with Florida, most likely a new CEO and probably some new board members. Disney will become much more apolitical in the end - as it should be.

I agree with the first part. A deal will be done in quiet. I don't agree with the second. You get punished for what? Maybe a quarter?

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(05-03-2022 10:13 AM)fsquid Wrote:  We won't know the effects good or bad on this one for years. Heck, the dissolving of the Special District is still 14 months away. So stories up in the OP are worthless at best.

Funny, I never had thought of Disneyworld as an unholy Ratican (Vatican) City in Florida. It makes almost as much sense as the name of Nostradamus's third anti-Christ, Mabus which could be an antigram of a name and location. Obama-US.

The love of money is the root of all evil. = The principle of each corporation is to make money for its shareholders. A Corporation is a creation of mankind which has now been imbued with the same legal rights of a person, yet a corporation has no soul. So it's not born of a woman, not created by God, and is only born of Man.

I just need Louis Armstrong to sing, "What a Wonderful World" and then maybe the intro to the Twilight Zone or X-files for a finishing touch!

(05-03-2022 10:26 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:25 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Reedy Creek will not be dissolved in the end. There are 14 months where Disney will work out a deal with Florida, most likely a new CEO and probably some new board members. Disney will become much more apolitical in the end - as it should be.

I agree with the first part. A deal will be done in quiet. I don't agree with the second. You get punished for what? Maybe a quarter?

Overall, what will the terms of this deal be?

(05-03-2022 11:27 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:26 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:25 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Reedy Creek will not be dissolved in the end. There are 14 months where Disney will work out a deal with Florida, most likely a new CEO and probably some new board members. Disney will become much more apolitical in the end - as it should be.

I agree with the first part. A deal will be done in quiet. I don't agree with the second. You get punished for what? Maybe a quarter?

Overall, what will the terms of this deal be?

Status quo including donations back to GOP candidates

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(05-03-2022 10:26 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:25 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:13 AM)fsquid Wrote:  We won't know the effects good or bad on this one for years. Heck, the dissolving of the Special District is still 14 months away. So stories up in the OP are worthless at best.

LOL, the Reedy Creek will not be dissolved in the end. There are 14 months where Disney will work out a deal with Florida, most likely a new CEO and probably some new board members. Disney will become much more apolitical in the end - as it should be.

I agree with the first part. A deal will be done in quiet. I don't agree with the second. You get punished for what? Maybe a quarter?

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The latter will come about as well. It's one thing if you sell pizzas and go woke over something unrelated to your core business. However, when your company relies heavily on selling the wholesome family experience then their punishment will be much greater than just a quarter. IMHO, Disney will have to make a grand gesture to lure a lot of families back.

Recall Gillette. They "went woke" by accusing guys of toxic masculinity - the people who buy Gillette razors at a higher rate than any other demographic.

Not the same as Targets putting in "trans-friendly" restrooms, because offering a restroom that's for guys, girls or trans people matters little compared to their core business which is retail. They're not selling bathrooms nor the trans "experience".

(05-03-2022 11:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 11:27 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:26 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-03-2022 10:25 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Reedy Creek will not be dissolved in the end. There are 14 months where Disney will work out a deal with Florida, most likely a new CEO and probably some new board members. Disney will become much more apolitical in the end - as it should be.

I agree with the first part. A deal will be done in quiet. I don't agree with the second. You get punished for what? Maybe a quarter?

Overall, what will the terms of this deal be?

Status quo including donations back to GOP candidates

Status Quo is the reason why Florida is revoking RCID in the first place. And running as Disney’s preferred candidate might not be helpful in a GOP primary.