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Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:42 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5972...e-to-biden
https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynchin...alerts_all
It was legal in America to hang someone?
No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Errrrr,
Can you point to the last time this has happened?
192?
Mebbe
195?
Do you honestly think this serves any real purpose? Other than inflaming fake “racial” animosity?
Most us get along just fine. Work together, eat together, drink together, play and fish together.
If you don’t, why not?
This is simple…. Idiocracy.
Truly SAD we’ve come full ‘tard around to this dumbschit yet again.
Just give it up. Just stop.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
In this country 91% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks. 54.5% of all murder victims are black (while making up just 13% of the population). As a person or color, I am offended by the emptiness of this bill. It does nothing to address what is going on in America in this country on a daily basis.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...able-6.xls
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2022 05:01 AM by CliftonAve.)
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
That's been my question all along.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
Useless waste of time. Show boating for some feel good photo ops. Next, we need a pass a bill saying it’s illegal to behead folks. Stupid is what stupid does.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 04:50 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: In this country 91% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks. 54.5% of all murder victims are black (while making up just 13% of the population). As a person or color, I am offended by the emptiness of this bill. It does nothing to address what is going on in America in this country on a daily basis.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...able-6.xls
Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
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VA49er
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 09:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 04:50 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: In this country 91% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks. 54.5% of all murder victims are black (while making up just 13% of the population). As a person or color, I am offended by the emptiness of this bill. It does nothing to address what is going on in America in this country on a daily basis.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...able-6.xls
Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
Was lynching not already illegal?
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-07-2022 11:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Want lynching already illegal?
Lol. Democrats are such fun.
(03-08-2022 03:22 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:42 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5972...e-to-biden
https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynchin...alerts_all
It was legal in America to hang someone?
No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Errrrr,
Can you point to the last time this has happened?
192?
Mebbe
195?
Do you honestly think this serves any real purpose? Other than inflaming fake “racial” animosity?
Most us get along just fine. Work together, eat together, drink together, play and fish together.
If you don’t, why not?
This is simple…. Idiocracy.
Truly SAD we’ve come full ‘tard around to this dumbschit yet again.
Just give it up. Just stop.
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
That's been my question all along.
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
Useless waste of time. Show boating for some feel good photo ops. Next, we need a pass a bill saying it’s illegal to behead folks. Stupid is what stupid does.
(03-08-2022 09:15 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 09:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 04:50 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: In this country 91% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks. 54.5% of all murder victims are black (while making up just 13% of the population). As a person or color, I am offended by the emptiness of this bill. It does nothing to address what is going on in America in this country on a daily basis.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...able-6.xls
Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
Was lynching not already illegal?
For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 10:03 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 11:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Want lynching already illegal?
Lol. Democrats are such fun.
(03-08-2022 03:22 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:42 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5972...e-to-biden
https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynchin...alerts_all
It was legal in America to hang someone?
No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Errrrr,
Can you point to the last time this has happened?
192?
Mebbe
195?
Do you honestly think this serves any real purpose? Other than inflaming fake “racial” animosity?
Most us get along just fine. Work together, eat together, drink together, play and fish together.
If you don’t, why not?
This is simple…. Idiocracy.
Truly SAD we’ve come full ‘tard around to this dumbschit yet again.
Just give it up. Just stop.
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
That's been my question all along.
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
Useless waste of time. Show boating for some feel good photo ops. Next, we need a pass a bill saying it’s illegal to behead folks. Stupid is what stupid does.
(03-08-2022 09:15 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 09:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 04:50 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: In this country 91% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks. 54.5% of all murder victims are black (while making up just 13% of the population). As a person or color, I am offended by the emptiness of this bill. It does nothing to address what is going on in America in this country on a daily basis.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...able-6.xls
Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
Was lynching not already illegal?
For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
So murder is worse if it is committed against a person of a protected class?
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 10:03 AM)Gamenole Wrote: For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
Yeah I still don't get it. Isn't being charged for murder, etc. enough?
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 10:15 AM)bearcat65 Wrote: (03-08-2022 10:03 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 11:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Want lynching already illegal?
Lol. Democrats are such fun.
(03-08-2022 03:22 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:42 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: It was legal in America to hang someone?
No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Errrrr,
Can you point to the last time this has happened?
192?
Mebbe
195?
Do you honestly think this serves any real purpose? Other than inflaming fake “racial” animosity?
Most us get along just fine. Work together, eat together, drink together, play and fish together.
If you don’t, why not?
This is simple…. Idiocracy.
Truly SAD we’ve come full ‘tard around to this dumbschit yet again.
Just give it up. Just stop.
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
That's been my question all along.
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
Useless waste of time. Show boating for some feel good photo ops. Next, we need a pass a bill saying it’s illegal to behead folks. Stupid is what stupid does.
(03-08-2022 09:15 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 09:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 04:50 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: In this country 91% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks. 54.5% of all murder victims are black (while making up just 13% of the population). As a person or color, I am offended by the emptiness of this bill. It does nothing to address what is going on in America in this country on a daily basis.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...able-6.xls
Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
Was lynching not already illegal?
For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
So murder is worse if it is committed against a person of a protected class?
Not just committed against a person of a protected class, but motivated by bias against that person because of their membership in the protected class. So murdering someone of any race is murder, plain and simple. Choosing the murder victim because of their race is murder + hate crime.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 10:16 AM)b2b Wrote: (03-08-2022 10:03 AM)Gamenole Wrote: For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
Yeah I still don't get it. Isn't being charged for murder, etc. enough?
All those words that don't change anything. Seems like more posturing, and nothing else. Making something more illegal seems like a waste of time.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 10:20 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-08-2022 10:15 AM)bearcat65 Wrote: (03-08-2022 10:03 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 11:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Want lynching already illegal?
Lol. Democrats are such fun.
(03-08-2022 03:22 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Errrrr,
Can you point to the last time this has happened?
192?
Mebbe
195?
Do you honestly think this serves any real purpose? Other than inflaming fake “racial” animosity?
Most us get along just fine. Work together, eat together, drink together, play and fish together.
If you don’t, why not?
This is simple…. Idiocracy.
Truly SAD we’ve come full ‘tard around to this dumbschit yet again.
Just give it up. Just stop.
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
That's been my question all along.
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
Useless waste of time. Show boating for some feel good photo ops. Next, we need a pass a bill saying it’s illegal to behead folks. Stupid is what stupid does.
(03-08-2022 09:15 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 09:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
Was lynching not already illegal?
For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
So murder is worse if it is committed against a person of a protected class?
Not just committed against a person of a protected class, but motivated by bias against that person because of their membership in the protected class. So murdering someone of any race is murder, plain and simple. Choosing the murder victim because of their race is murder + hate crime.
And this seems logical to you?
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
How many lynchings have occurred in America since (say) the year 2000?
Quote:Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 10:03 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 11:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Want lynching already illegal?
Lol. Democrats are such fun.
(03-08-2022 03:22 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:42 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5972...e-to-biden
https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynchin...alerts_all
It was legal in America to hang someone?
No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Errrrr,
Can you point to the last time this has happened?
192?
Mebbe
195?
Do you honestly think this serves any real purpose? Other than inflaming fake “racial” animosity?
Most us get along just fine. Work together, eat together, drink together, play and fish together.
If you don’t, why not?
This is simple…. Idiocracy.
Truly SAD we’ve come full ‘tard around to this dumbschit yet again.
Just give it up. Just stop.
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
That's been my question all along.
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
Useless waste of time. Show boating for some feel good photo ops. Next, we need a pass a bill saying it’s illegal to behead folks. Stupid is what stupid does.
(03-08-2022 09:15 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 09:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 04:50 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: In this country 91% of black murder victims are killed by other blacks. 54.5% of all murder victims are black (while making up just 13% of the population). As a person or color, I am offended by the emptiness of this bill. It does nothing to address what is going on in America in this country on a daily basis.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...able-6.xls
Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
Was lynching not already illegal?
For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
Of course Dens need this hate crime law because no one bar none flames racial divisions more than Regressives.
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 10:20 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-08-2022 10:15 AM)bearcat65 Wrote: (03-08-2022 10:03 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 11:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Want lynching already illegal?
Lol. Democrats are such fun.
(03-08-2022 03:22 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Errrrr,
Can you point to the last time this has happened?
192?
Mebbe
195?
Do you honestly think this serves any real purpose? Other than inflaming fake “racial” animosity?
Most us get along just fine. Work together, eat together, drink together, play and fish together.
If you don’t, why not?
This is simple…. Idiocracy.
Truly SAD we’ve come full ‘tard around to this dumbschit yet again.
Just give it up. Just stop.
(03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
That's been my question all along.
(03-08-2022 09:13 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: (03-08-2022 08:40 AM)b2b Wrote: Why is an anti-lynching bill needed? Isn't this already illegal?
Useless waste of time. Show boating for some feel good photo ops. Next, we need a pass a bill saying it’s illegal to behead folks. Stupid is what stupid does.
(03-08-2022 09:15 AM)VA49er Wrote: (03-08-2022 09:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: Yeah, but why let facts get in the way of a feel good story.
Was lynching not already illegal?
For everybody who didn't read the whole thread, the antilynching law is not just about any one race, or about hanging someone. This bill creates a new federal crime that can be charged in addition to the underlying murder, assault, etc. - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime." Hate crimes can be charged when someone is targeted for crime because of their membership in a protected class - race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.
So murder is worse if it is committed against a person of a protected class?
Not just committed against a person of a protected class, but motivated by bias against that person because of their membership in the protected class. So murdering someone of any race is murder, plain and simple. Choosing the murder victim because of their race is murder + hate crime.
Which is why "hate crime" laws are so stupid. Punish the act, not what's in a person's mind or heart. When you make a decision to punish more harshly based upon "protected class" or someone's beliefs that do not meet up with your own, you become very Orwellian with Thought Police; and one step closer to such penalties being levied against different political parties, religions, etc. Slippery slope, and I want no part of it.
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03-08-2022 12:09 PM |
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49RFootballNow
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-07-2022 11:33 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Want lynching already illegal?
Lol. Democrats are such fun.
But now it's super-duper illegal!
(03-08-2022 10:20 AM)Gamenole Wrote: Not just committed against a person of a protected class, but motivated by bias against that person because of their membership in the protected class. So murdering someone of any race is murder, plain and simple. Choosing the murder victim because of their race is murder + hate crime.
No surprise Leftists believe in degrees of murder. In fact they think some murder is just responsible birth control. Others are worse because the murderer committed the significantly more horrible crime of being a racist about it.
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03-08-2022 12:13 PM |
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salukiblue
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-07-2022 08:47 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:42 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5972...e-to-biden
https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynchin...alerts_all
It was legal in America to hang someone?
No, that has been and remains murder! Lynching under this bill doesn't actually require a hanging, it creates a new federal crime that can be charged - "Under the bill, a crime would be prosecuted as a lynching when death or serious bodily injury results from a conspiracy to commit a hate crime."
Nonetheless, murder or attempted murder is still illegal. As is conspiracy to commit murder or attempted murder.
I also don't understand why attempted murder doesn't get the same prison sentence as murder. Just because someone is sh!tty at killing shouldn't get them a lesser sentence.
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03-08-2022 12:49 PM |
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-07-2022 10:49 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5972...e-to-biden
https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynchin...alerts_all
Does anyone know the history of lynching in the U.S.?
Anyone?
Democrats had many tricks up their sleeves to prevent blacks from voting: poll taxes, whites-only primaries, literacy tests, grandfather clauses, multiple ballots/multiple voting locations, hide-and-seek polls, etc.
But the MOST effective way to prevent black and white republicans from voting was lynching.
Between 1882 and 1964 there were 4,743 lynchings:
- 3,446 blacks
- 1,297 whites
The Republican Party platform included bans on lynching. Democrats continuously blocked anti-lynching bills.
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03-08-2022 12:50 PM |
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salukiblue
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RE: Anti-Lynching Bill headed to President's Desk
(03-08-2022 12:50 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-07-2022 10:49 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-07-2022 08:39 PM)Gamenole Wrote: Good for Congress, they finally passed an anti-lynching law after 200+ failed attempts! The Emmett Till Antilynching Act passed the Senate by unanimous consent and the House 422-3.
Does anybody know why these three House Republicans opposed the law?
Andrew Clyde, GA
Thomas Massie, KY
Chip Roy, TX
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5972...e-to-biden
https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynchin...alerts_all
Does anyone know the history of lynching in the U.S.?
Anyone?
Democrats had many tricks up their sleeves to prevent blacks from voting: poll taxes, whites-only primaries, literacy tests, grandfather clauses, multiple ballots/multiple voting locations, hide-and-seek polls, etc.
But the MOST effective way to prevent black and white republicans from voting was lynching.
Between 1882 and 1964 there were 4,743 lynchings:
- 3,446 blacks
- 1,297 whites
The Republican Party platform included bans on lynching. Democrats continuously blocked anti-lynching bills.
C'mon now, the "Party of Lincoln" is not the Republican party today. And the Dems of the 50's are more in line with the southern Republicans of today.
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03-08-2022 12:53 PM |
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