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I do not care about Ukraine
I see to many more pressing issues at home that needs to be addressed and if we don't address these issues, we risk losing democracy at home. It's crazy to me that isolationism is deemed an extreme position but up until WWII our country was isolationist. We slayed genocide by Hitler but ignored genocide by Stalin, and quite frankly, if it wasn't for the Japanese, we would've remained neutral so who knows what our modern stance of Hitler and Stalin would be if we didn't get involved. And btw, in both world wars we was as likely to join the "enemy factions" as we were allied factions. We was tricked into joining the allies in WWI.

Fast forward to today, I really fail to see how keeping the world safe is beneficial for the people ofvthe US. One major gripe is the lack of high speed train in our country. How do we not have such a train system in our country? Let's talk about our abysmal power grid that could take us to the iron shed due to a simple solar EMP. Most roads in the north have potholes that will destroy your alignment of you're not paying attention.

And yo, yo to the yo, I haven't even addressed our major problems yet. Dot to the dot dot dot.... Let's talk about our border issue and how Republicans feel that we're being invaded: if it wasn't for the war on drugs and our Intel agencies working against us, this so called invasion simply isn't happening. The ATF and CIA has been giving cartels arms for over 30 years which is giving cartels an upper hand against their own governments. Thus destabilization of those governments led people to leave their homes and head to the United States for safety.

People can say that bridges are a local issue. And I'm some ways I can occur. But at the same time bridges are integral to trade between our states. When we have bridges collapsing interstate commerce becomes much harder. If Pittsburgh was located in the center of Pa, I wouldn't have an argument, but the bridge that collapsed in Pittsburgh effects trade between Pa and Ohio, NY and Maryland thus making this a national issue

Let's talk about the homeless crisis. This effects local businesses because it prevents people from going to the business sectors of major cities in fear of being harassed. The homeless are also causing property damage thus raising the insurance fees of businesses and property owners. We need to address why homelessness exists in the first place, which is the jobs of yesterday has been replaced by machines. The people that are homeless definitely share blame but it's not entirely their fault, I myself have been homeless for 4 years. I understand their struggle and needs. Drugs is a contributing factor but is more of a symtom than the underlying issue at hand. If there was a legitimate pathway to jobs and transitional housing, the issue with drugs would go away. People use drugs to feel better about their situation.

Obviously every city is different. For Pittsburgh it was a ton of blight, in Portland it's homelessness. To put things in some context, on my average train ride to work at 5AM, of the 200 passengers on my train, at least 150 of them are homeless people trying to stay warm and dry. A change of political philosophy in city leadership, or even state leadership is going to suddenly change this direction. Getting these people mental health treatment then a pathway to acquiring job skills to fulfill a career will.

The way I see it, if we put the needs of Ukraine above the needs of people struggling in our country we will see a French revolution in our country. Of we focused on job creation, real job creation, then there wouldn't be a need for EBT and HUD. The interest rates are killing those that aren't even homeless. When humans' backs are against the wall, they react; typically it's a negative reaction. Sending 200m to protect foreign interests is a terrible look. This isn't a Democrat, Republican or even a Libertarian thing for me. It's about seeing our destruction from within and our leaders completely ignoring such issues. Every politician at each level of government needs replaced. But hey, fck it, Putin wants to destroy some insignificant country halfway across the globe... meh
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(02-21-2022 09:53 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I see to many more pressing issues at home that needs to be addressed and if we don't address these issues, we risk losing democracy at home. It's crazy to me that isolationism is deemed an extreme position but up until WWII our country was isolationist. We slayed genocide by Hitler but ignored genocide by Stalin, and quite frankly, if it wasn't for the Japanese, we would've remained neutral so who knows what our modern stance of Hitler and Stalin would be if we didn't get involved. And btw, in both world wars we was as likely to join the "enemy factions" as we were allied factions. We was tricked into joining the allies in WWI.

Fast forward to today, I really fail to see how keeping the world safe is beneficial for the people ofvthe US. One major gripe is the lack of high speed train in our country. How do we not have such a train system in our country? Let's talk about our abysmal power grid that could take us to the iron shed due to a simple solar EMP. Most roads in the north have potholes that will destroy your alignment of you're not paying attention.

And yo, yo to the yo, I haven't even addressed our major problems yet. Dot to the dot dot dot.... Let's talk about our border issue and how Republicans feel that we're being invaded: if it wasn't for the war on drugs and our Intel agencies working against us, this so called invasion simply isn't happening. The ATF and CIA has been giving cartels arms for over 30 years which is giving cartels an upper hand against their own governments. Thus destabilization of those governments led people to leave their homes and head to the United States for safety.

People can say that bridges are a local issue. And I'm some ways I can occur. But at the same time bridges are integral to trade between our states. When we have bridges collapsing interstate commerce becomes much harder. If Pittsburgh was located in the center of Pa, I wouldn't have an argument, but the bridge that collapsed in Pittsburgh effects trade between Pa and Ohio, NY and Maryland thus making this a national issue

Let's talk about the homeless crisis. This effects local businesses because it prevents people from going to the business sectors of major cities in fear of being harassed. The homeless are also causing property damage thus raising the insurance fees of businesses and property owners. We need to address why homelessness exists in the first place, which is the jobs of yesterday has been replaced by machines. The people that are homeless definitely share blame but it's not entirely their fault, I myself have been homeless for 4 years. I understand their struggle and needs. Drugs is a contributing factor but is more of a symtom than the underlying issue at hand. If there was a legitimate pathway to jobs and transitional housing, the issue with drugs would go away. People use drugs to feel better about their situation.

Obviously every city is different. For Pittsburgh it was a ton of blight, in Portland it's homelessness. To put things in some context, on my average train ride to work at 5AM, of the 200 passengers on my train, at least 150 of them are homeless people trying to stay warm and dry. A change of political philosophy in city leadership, or even state leadership is going to suddenly change this direction. Getting these people mental health treatment then a pathway to acquiring job skills to fulfill a career will.

The way I see it, if we put the needs of Ukraine above the needs of people struggling in our country we will see a French revolution in our country. Of we focused on job creation, real job creation, then there wouldn't be a need for EBT and HUD. The interest rates are killing those that aren't even homeless. When humans' backs are against the wall, they react; typically it's a negative reaction. Sending 200m to protect foreign interests is a terrible look. This isn't a Democrat, Republican or even a Libertarian thing for me. It's about seeing our destruction from within and our leaders completely ignoring such issues. Every politician at each level of government needs replaced. But hey, fck it, Putin wants to destroy some insignificant country halfway across the globe... meh



I always suspected you were a Russian asset. 04-cheers

How much is Putin and China paying you for this?
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BTW that entire post was sarcasm
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You good. Neither China nor Russia is really a military or economical threat when you really think about it. Both have outdated military technology and the US purchasing power has the ability to take its business elsewhere, precisely why you're seeing more items being made in India, Pakistan and Thailand
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This turned out to be a case of Californiadejavu. Weren't the Ukrainians THE SOBs friend just not too long ago? You asked for this Ukraine, you shouldv'e known not to trust a Biden. Tsk, tsk, I don't care either and I sure don't want to go to war to spare a nation that is so corrupt to begin with.
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(02-21-2022 10:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This turned out to be a case of Californiadejavu. Weren't the Ukrainians THE SOBs friend just not too long ago? You asked for this Ukraine, you shouldv'e known not to trust a Biden. Tsk, tsk, I don't care either and I sure don't want to go to war to spare a nation that is so corrupt to begin with.

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The last time a war was about actual protection/US interest was WWII. Every action since then has been based in economics and power - personal, not National.
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04-cheers on all of that!

And I’m right there with F the corrupt nation of Ukraine as well and another 04-cheers for good luck to the good individuals over there.

Just when I think our country won’t get any lower it does and I’m afraid I see some very bad economic times ahead.
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(02-21-2022 10:15 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  You good. Neither China nor Russia is really a military or economical threat when you really think about it. Both have outdated military technology and the US purchasing power has the ability to take its business elsewhere, precisely why you're seeing more items being made in India, Pakistan and Thailand


I tend to agree but with our new woke military that is more focused on wokeness and promoting transgenders and activists I being to wonder are we as prepared anymore.

Between Obama and Biden they have really altered our military at the top. The radical leftist agenda has clearly infiltrated our military.

I just wonder how much.
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(02-22-2022 12:11 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(02-21-2022 10:15 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  You good. Neither China nor Russia is really a military or economical threat when you really think about it. Both have outdated military technology and the US purchasing power has the ability to take its business elsewhere, precisely why you're seeing more items being made in India, Pakistan and Thailand


I tend to agree but with our new woke military that is more focused on wokeness and promoting transgenders and activists I being to wonder are we as prepared anymore.

Between Obama and Biden they have really altered our military at the top. The radical leftist agenda has clearly infiltrated our military.

I just wonder how much.

Even with that said, the woke crowd doesn't even have to fire a shot. You blockade the South China Sea and destroy their ability to trade. Chiba doesn't have the navy nor missile capability to break the blockade. From there use the the Air Force and Navy Air wing to destroy any potential Air threats. In the air alone our forces outnumber theirs very significantly, and with superior technology.
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I’m curious, what if this administration goes into Ukraine and it turns into another Vietnam. If the draft is reinstated the most eligible will be the BLM and Antifa types. Wouldn’t it be ironic if those who did the most to push the Left’s radical agenda, were sent to die in a foreign country just to deflect attention from this administration’s sinking popularity.

I’m against sending any American, even Mom’s basement dwelling Antifa clowns and the Burn, Loot, Murder mob, into any war in Europe. Screw Europe… Americans fought, died and are buried in the soil of European countries who wouldn’t piss on the US if it was on fire. Twice in one century is enough.
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(02-22-2022 07:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I’m curious, what if this administration goes into Ukraine and it turns into another Vietnam. If the draft is reinstated the most eligible will be the BLM and Antifa types. Wouldn’t it be ironic if those who did the most to push the Left’s radical agenda, were sent to die in a foreign country just to deflect attention from this administration’s sinking popularity.

I’m against sending any American, even Mom’s basement dwelling Antifa clowns and the Burn, Loot, Murder mob, into any war in Europe. Screw Europe… Americans fought, died and are buried in the soil of European countries who wouldn’t piss on the US if it was on fire. Twice in one century is enough.

Europeans are the biggest freeloaders on the planet. Remove the safety net of our military power and protection, and all of western European welfare systems crumble. We are indirectly subsidizing education and health care for Europeans whilst we are paying through the roof. The marriage between Europe and the US has only benefited Europe.
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Frick Ukraine

Im worried about Mekraine
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(02-22-2022 07:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I’m curious, what if this administration goes into Ukraine and it turns into another Vietnam. If the draft is reinstated the most eligible will be the BLM and Antifa types. Wouldn’t it be ironic if those who did the most to push the Left’s radical agenda, were sent to die in a foreign country just to deflect attention from this administration’s sinking popularity.

I’m against sending any American, even Mom’s basement dwelling Antifa clowns and the Burn, Loot, Murder mob, into any war in Europe. Screw Europe… Americans fought, died and are buried in the soil of European countries who wouldn’t piss on the US if it was on fire. Twice in one century is enough.

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(02-21-2022 10:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-21-2022 10:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This turned out to be a case of Californiadejavu. Weren't the Ukrainians THE SOBs friend just not too long ago? You asked for this Ukraine, you shouldv'e known not to trust a Biden. Tsk, tsk, I don't care either and I sure don't want to go to war to spare a nation that is so corrupt to begin with.

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I dig the sentiment but there is no way we are sending troops into Ukraine. We have a better chance of invading Canada.
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(02-22-2022 09:07 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I dig the sentiment but there is no way we are sending troops into Ukraine. We have a better chance of invading Canada.

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(02-22-2022 09:44 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(02-22-2022 09:07 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I dig the sentiment but there is no way we are sending troops into Ukraine. We have a better chance of invading Canada.

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F Ukraine. They threw their eggs into the Biden basket and all I want to do is laugh at them about it.


HAHAHAHA Ukraine.. Down you go!
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(02-22-2022 07:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I’m curious, what if this administration goes into Ukraine and it turns into another Vietnam.

That's exactly what the M.I.C. wants.
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