It's a simple matter, one shouldn't hit someone else even if provoked. Sure, you are free to get mad and throw out some zingers but the minute you assault someone first then you're at fault. See, how simple it is and there's no excuse for it. That was not a pure case of self defense.

I'm listening to Whitlocks live steam right now.

He points out that Howard claimed Wisconsin called a TO with a few seconds left to be disrespectful in some way, but that is not what happened. Wisconsin called a TO with some 45 seconds left to clear their bench and put walk-ons in. Howard then called for his starters to go into a full court press, which is totally unprofessional and disrespectful.

Then Howard claimed he was "protecting" himself when he swung. Yet he waited some 5 to 10 seconds to actually swing and swung at a completely different coach and he KNEW it was a different guy.

Howard was totally full of it in the press conf and when the melee happened.

Protecting himself? Lol, does he realize this was filmed? They had like 3 guys between them.

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He is also doing a good job of laying out how the woke agenda and racial politics a big role in this type of behavior. The issue is not that Howard is mad about politics, but the woke atmosphere and racial political atmosphere leads to people like Howard thinking they can do whatever, not be held accountable because they are an oppressed minority.

It leads to situations like George Floyd, Trayvon Martin and others who are not to be held responsible for their own actions because they are an oppressed minority, only the actions of a white person or cop are to be held accountable.

When the tsunami of this racial woke politics is driven home for several years it begins to have a real effect on how people behave and think.

Howard was suspended for the rest of the season and fined $40K. 3 Michigan players that threw punches suspended 1 game. One Wisconsin player suspended 1 game.

Howard never even remotely apologized for anything or took any responsibility for anything he did or said. He instead just painted himself as a victim who had to protect himself from a short older white man who touched his arm, and he protected himself by swinging at another person entirely.

(02-21-2022 06:02 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Why he did it doesn't matter almost at all. He put his hands on another coach from the opposing team.

At the very least his season should be over and IMO his career at Michigan should be over too. It will probably not be though. He will get 3-5 games and a gentle slap on the wrist. I am not going to say this is because of his skin color, but I would love to know what the reaction and punishment would be if it was the WI coach who smacked JH instead - I think we all know what would have happened (already).

I rarely watch the ESPN sport reporting shows in the afternoon, but on Tony Reale's show this came up and OMFG the excuses they were making.... It was like listening to Whoopie... "Well it wasn't like a slap slap".... Just shoot me.

1. Gard should've known not to step in front and grab his elbow to talk to him when he saw the anger on Howard's face. BUT - watch every postgame handshake and it is common to put your other hand on the coach's arm while shaking his hand. Gard should have been able to read the situation better. Now, everybody is aware that Juwan is a powder keg waiting to blow. Poor impulse control in a pressure situation.

2. I read a litany of excuses from all kinds of sportswriters today. Made me want to

3. He had a blowup last year vs. Maryland so this is not Howard's first offense. So this is strike two. Once more and he should be fired.

4. Howard needs to just coach his own damn team and not try to coach both. If he didn't like the timeout, tough. He's called timeouts in the last minute himself before when his team was up big.

(02-21-2022 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  After last year's incident with Maryland, it is reported that he said that he was from the South side of Chicago and that is how they settled things there.

He's 50 years old. Hasn't grown up yet or left the hood behind if that is his response.

Bad Losers Matter!

(02-21-2022 08:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-21-2022 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  After last year's incident with Maryland, it is reported that he said that he was from the South side of Chicago and that is how they settled things there.

He's 50 years old. Hasn't grown up yet or left the hood behind if that is his response.

Bad Losers Matter!

He should have been fired this time. You just can't have coaches getting into fights. You can have more tolerance for 18 year olds who aren't getting paid to play and who are actually physically exerting themselves.

(02-21-2022 08:49 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-21-2022 08:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-21-2022 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  After last year's incident with Maryland, it is reported that he said that he was from the South side of Chicago and that is how they settled things there.

He's 50 years old. Hasn't grown up yet or left the hood behind if that is his response.

Bad Losers Matter!

He should have been fired this time. You just can't have coaches getting into fights. You can have more tolerance for 18 year olds who aren't getting paid to play and who are actually physically exerting themselves.

Absolutely! But you know, BLM. Minorities can do no wrong! Maoism! etc., etc., etc.

(02-21-2022 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  After last year's incident with Maryland, it is reported that he said that he was from the South side of Chicago and that is how they settled things there.

He's 50 years old. Hasn't grown up yet or left the hood behind if that is his response.

What happened w/ Maryland?

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(02-21-2022 09:14 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(02-21-2022 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  After last year's incident with Maryland, it is reported that he said that he was from the South side of Chicago and that is how they settled things there.

He's 50 years old. Hasn't grown up yet or left the hood behind if that is his response.

What happened w/ Maryland?

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He got into a heated argument with the Maryland coach at the end of last season.

The head basketball coach at Michigan threw a punch at an opposing assistant coach post game. I think most contracts for coaches have a "show cause" clause.

The show-cause penalty is the stiffest punishment a coach can receive for violating NCAA rules. Created for the purpose of preventing coaches penalized by the NCAA from jumping to another school to escape sanctions, a show-cause penalty attaches NCAA penalties to a coach even at a new school.

Michigan can suspend him for the rest of the season but notify him in writing the show cause provision is being reviewed. They can use this to drop him without any penalty to the school.....nor does Howard get the rest of his contractual salary.

I think Howard is done at Michigan.....regardless of race.

If he were white he’d be fired. Gross ignorance on his part to throw a punch. Double standard has to stop. Fire him. We can’t move forward as a society by picking and choosing consequences of folks based on who they are or the color of their skin.

He should be let go immediately.

If not it just reinforces division and privilege.

What an embarrassment for the University of Michigan.

I heard on a broadcast that the Wisconsin coach was fined 10K. I would have been OK with a 1 game suspension. The assistant that got slapped said something that escalated it. Wonder why he got a pass?

This doesn't look good for the Big Ten, Michigan or Howard.

(02-22-2022 01:27 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I heard on a broadcast that the Wisconsin coach was fined 10K. I would have been OK with a 1 game suspension. The assistant that got slapped said something that escalated it. Wonder why he got a pass?
This doesn't look good for the Big Ten, Michigan or Howard.

I heard $40K and suspended for the season. That sounds about right to me. I also heard the Wisconsin coach was fined $10K.

(02-22-2022 02:03 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-22-2022 01:27 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I heard on a broadcast that the Wisconsin coach was fined 10K. I would have been OK with a 1 game suspension. The assistant that got slapped said something that escalated it. Wonder why he got a pass?
This doesn't look good for the Big Ten, Michigan or Howard.

I heard $40K and suspended for the season. That sounds about right to me. I also heard the Wisconsin coach was fined $10K.

Yes a fine + 5 games (the rest of the regular season). What a fuking joke.... A slap on the wrist.

(02-21-2022 08:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-21-2022 01:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  After last year's incident with Maryland, it is reported that he said that he was from the South side of Chicago and that is how they settled things there.

He's 50 years old. Hasn't grown up yet or left the hood behind if that is his response.

Bad Losers Matter!

Boom.

(02-22-2022 01:15 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  If he were white he’d be fired.

First thing I thought of when I read the penalty.

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