All it proves is that they paid for one away game. Usually that means that the university will pay for the transportation (in the this case they added $25 for "food").Does not mention home games, in which I believe the original argument was about.

(01-31-2022 03:39 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  All it proves is that they paid for one away game. Usually that means that the university will pay for the transportation (in the this case they added $25 for "food").Does not mention home games, in which I believe the original argument was about.

In real ticket-selling basketball terms, Arizona is a one-school state. So I suspect there’s no opportunity cost if there’s free tickets for students at GCU, and maybe it’s cheaper to pay for the students to go in rather than get them a free t-shirt or some other inducement (which I’ve seen elsewhere).

There’s a strong possibility, depending on who paid for what, that scooting 250 kids (nearly 6 hours one way) to a road game costs more. Next level stuff. But I want to see the details.

(01-31-2022 04:35 PM)Pounder Wrote:  

(01-31-2022 03:39 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  All it proves is that they paid for one away game. Usually that means that the university will pay for the transportation (in the this case they added $25 for "food").Does not mention home games, in which I believe the original argument was about.

In real ticket-selling basketball terms, Arizona is a one-school state. So I suspect there’s no opportunity cost if there’s free tickets for students at GCU, and maybe it’s cheaper to pay for the students to go in rather than get them a free t-shirt or some other inducement (which I’ve seen elsewhere).

There’s a strong possibility, depending on who paid for what, that scooting 250 kids (nearly 6 hours one way) to a road game costs more. Next level stuff. But I want to see the details.

GCU paid for 6 buses to transport the kids back and forth. Not sure about food and lodging. People are assuming the $25 was to cover food. No one has reported that kids were given $25 for food or that it was a stipend. The reporter said the kids were simply offered $25 to attend.

(01-31-2022 05:05 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(01-31-2022 04:35 PM)Pounder Wrote:  

(01-31-2022 03:39 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  All it proves is that they paid for one away game. Usually that means that the university will pay for the transportation (in the this case they added $25 for "food").Does not mention home games, in which I believe the original argument was about.

In real ticket-selling basketball terms, Arizona is a one-school state. So I suspect there’s no opportunity cost if there’s free tickets for students at GCU, and maybe it’s cheaper to pay for the students to go in rather than get them a free t-shirt or some other inducement (which I’ve seen elsewhere).

There’s a strong possibility, depending on who paid for what, that scooting 250 kids (nearly 6 hours one way) to a road game costs more. Next level stuff. But I want to see the details.

GCU paid for 6 buses to transport the kids back and forth. Not sure about food and lodging. People are assuming the $25 was to cover food. No one has reported that kids were given $25 for food or that it was a stipend. The reporter said the kids were simply offered $25 to attend.

Come to think of it, what time was the game?

I’ve been a passenger on many Timbers Away trips to Seattle. That’s only 174 miles one way with (usually) one stop each way, and even that gets messy as well as fun. We certainly pay to go vice get paid, the busses are arranged by Timbers Army and not the Timbers organization, there’s usually a brewery sponsor for each bus (keg included). The logistics are usually ridiculous, the Seattle front office usually tries to force us in 2 hours ahead of kickoff, the seats are way high, and we’ve got it down to a science and an art (though, the last couple years before the pandemic, more people were opting to drive rather than bus). Latest we ever got back to Portland was 1:30 am or so.

NMSU made about $5,000 off GCU's students and we still sent them home packing for the 9th straight time in Las Cruces. We took their money and took the W. GCU is all propaganda. I can't wait to leave the WAC behind for CUSA when we play teams who don't play gimmick basketball. Saturday's game was nice to enjoy because both GCU and NMSU play traditional basketball and don't play the gimmick B.S.

(02-01-2022 01:38 AM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  NMSU made about $5,000 off GCU's students and we still sent them home packing for the 9th straight time in Las Cruces. We took their money and took the W. GCU is all propaganda. I can't wait to leave the WAC behind for CUSA when we play teams who don't play gimmick basketball. Saturday's game was nice to enjoy because both GCU and NMSU play traditional basketball and don't play the gimmick B.S.

Definition of "gimmick B.S."?

(01-31-2022 03:39 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  All it proves is that they paid for one away game. Usually that means that the university will pay for the transportation (in the this case they added $25 for "food").Does not mention home games, in which I believe the original argument was about.

Thank you wisdom for this comment.

The original argument was 100% about home games.

I refused to respond to other posters shouting up and down that GCU "lied" or that GCU posters on here "lied" or that GCU is a gimmick institution. Just sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me.

I have mad respect for NMSU and their athletic program. They are the king of the WAC and I have always said so. I also appreciate the banter on this blog. I just do not understand the pretzel logic used at times to try and make a point. I also do not understand how many NMSU posters can constantly claim GCU is not a rival of NMSU while at the same time badmouth GCU, and rejoice when they beat GCU on their home court. Sounds like a rivalry to me.

As for what the $25 dollars was for, I have no idea. I have no connections to anyone who handles away trips. I also have no idea whether or not this constitutes students getting paid to attend a game either. I do not have enough information. All we have is one reporter making a statement and then the word "proof" is thrown around. I do appreciate that the original poster titled this thread in the form of a question; however, the thread quickly changed from asking a question to absolute proof that GCU lied and that the GCU posters on here lied.

Accusing someone of lying is a bit low. I sincerely hope no one on this blog is purposely lying. Now I am sure we are all guilty of embellishment at times since we are all biased towards the team we cheer for. If this is what you mean by "lying" then perhaps I am guilty of lying at some point. My sincerest apologies if that was the case.

Congrats to NMSU on your victory this past Saturday.

(02-02-2022 12:25 PM)DZ1 Wrote:  

(01-31-2022 03:39 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  All it proves is that they paid for one away game. Usually that means that the university will pay for the transportation (in the this case they added $25 for "food").Does not mention home games, in which I believe the original argument was about.

Thank you wisdom for this comment.

The original argument was 100% about home games.

I refused to respond to other posters shouting up and down that GCU "lied" or that GCU posters on here "lied" or that GCU is a gimmick institution. Just sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me.

I have mad respect for NMSU and their athletic program. They are the king of the WAC and I have always said so. I also appreciate the banter on this blog. I just do not understand the pretzel logic used at times to try and make a point. I also do not understand how many NMSU posters can constantly claim GCU is not a rival of NMSU while at the same time badmouth GCU, and rejoice when they beat GCU on their home court. Sounds like a rivalry to me.

As for what the $25 dollars was for, I have no idea. I have no connections to anyone who handles away trips. I also have no idea whether or not this constitutes students getting paid to attend a game either. I do not have enough information. All we have is one reporter making a statement and then the word "proof" is thrown around. I do appreciate that the original poster titled this thread in the form of a question; however, the thread quickly changed from asking a question to absolute proof that GCU lied and that the GCU posters on here lied.

Accusing someone of lying is a bit low. I sincerely hope no one on this blog is purposely lying. Now I am sure we are all guilty of embellishment at times since we are all biased towards the team we cheer for. If this is what you mean by "lying" then perhaps I am guilty of lying at some point. My sincerest apologies if that was the case.

Congrats to NMSU on your victory this past Saturday.

For the record, the NMSU posters and twitter folks claiming that NMSU and GCU are not rivals are also the ones that are obsessed with GCU, bring up conspiracy theories, say GCU gets special treatment from the WAC, bring up GCU constantly, etc. The Aggie Alert mod said it perfectly: NMSU and GCU are conference rivals. Similar to our former conference rivalry with Utah State (that doesn't exist anymore). We have played NuM and the minors for over 100 years. We have played both of them over 200 times through the years. That is a true rivalry. When NMSU goes to CUSA, the NMSU/GCU conference rivalry will dissipate. Even if we schedule an OOC game, I doubt GCU is going to bus kids and pay them to go to LC.

Eh... I remember Washington fans WAY back when, trying to tell Oregon fans "USC is our biggest rival. Oregon isn't a rival." Then UW got sanctioned. Then "Wheaton's Gonna Score" happened.

(Oregon fans are special in that, while other programs are built off decades and decades of beating everyone up in their state or conference, we know the exact play at which Oregon started the transformation from a generally mediocre athletic department to where it is now.)

You know you have a rivalry when thou dost protest too much that you don't have a rivalry.

The trick is not to get too emotionally involved in the emotional involvement of others. Or something like that.

Just for the record, I lie every chance I get on here.

NMSU is 16-5 vs GCU all-time and GCU has never won in Las Cruces. GCU is not a rivalry. They could possibly start a rivalry with Northern Arizona.

(02-03-2022 06:03 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  NMSU is 16-5 vs GCU all-time and GCU has never won in Las Cruces. GCU is not a rivalry. They could possibly start a rivalry with Northern Arizona.

Exhibit A of posters that say GCU isn’t a rivalry and then obsess over GCU.

(02-03-2022 06:03 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  NMSU is 16-5 vs GCU all-time and GCU has never won in Las Cruces. GCU is not a rivalry. They could possibly start a rivalry with Northern Arizona.

GCU would have to beat NAU first

(02-01-2022 01:38 AM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  NMSU made about $5,000 off GCU's students and we still sent them home packing for the 9th straight time in Las Cruces. We took their money and took the W. GCU is all propaganda. I can't wait to leave the WAC behind for CUSA when we play teams who don't play gimmick basketball. Saturday's game was nice to enjoy because both GCU and NMSU play traditional basketball and don't play the gimmick B.S.

Imagine how much money NMSU could have made if they were located in a free state that actually allowed food sales!

(02-08-2022 10:06 AM)WestTexas409 Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 01:38 AM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  NMSU made about $5,000 off GCU's students and we still sent them home packing for the 9th straight time in Las Cruces. We took their money and took the W. GCU is all propaganda. I can't wait to leave the WAC behind for CUSA when we play teams who don't play gimmick basketball. Saturday's game was nice to enjoy because both GCU and NMSU play traditional basketball and don't play the gimmick B.S.

Imagine how much money NMSU could have made if they were located in a free state that actually allowed food sales!

Oh the tyranny! I don’t know how I will survive.

(02-08-2022 10:06 AM)WestTexas409 Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 01:38 AM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  NMSU made about $5,000 off GCU's students and we still sent them home packing for the 9th straight time in Las Cruces. We took their money and took the W. GCU is all propaganda. I can't wait to leave the WAC behind for CUSA when we play teams who don't play gimmick basketball. Saturday's game was nice to enjoy because both GCU and NMSU play traditional basketball and don't play the gimmick B.S.

Imagine how much money NMSU could have made if they were located in a free state that actually allowed food sales!

I didn't realize we weren't free.

(02-08-2022 12:57 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 10:06 AM)WestTexas409 Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 01:38 AM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  NMSU made about $5,000 off GCU's students and we still sent them home packing for the 9th straight time in Las Cruces. We took their money and took the W. GCU is all propaganda. I can't wait to leave the WAC behind for CUSA when we play teams who don't play gimmick basketball. Saturday's game was nice to enjoy because both GCU and NMSU play traditional basketball and don't play the gimmick B.S.

Imagine how much money NMSU could have made if they were located in a free state that actually allowed food sales!

I didn't realize we weren't free.

Freedom = Hot Dogs

Matt Brown wrote that GCU students do not get paid or credits to attend. Higher ups at GCU confirmed this.

(02-24-2022 09:28 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Matt Brown wrote that GCU students do not get paid or credits to attend. Higher ups at GCU confirmed this.

Did they also confirm that GCU is full of obnoxious try-hards that parrot propaganda to milk federal student loans for shareholder profits under the lazy guise of "higher" education?

The Saviour himself has spoken on the topic. This ought to erase all doubt anyone had on any topic. MB has declared it, and now it is so.