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Is Kelvin Sampson getting mentions at Louisville
(02-03-2022 01:13 AM)legacygt777 Wrote:  
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(02-02-2022 09:04 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Louisville can’t hire a known cheater. They need a clean coach


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Interesting how the rules Sampson blatantly violated are no longer NCAA violations. So many coaches were already making those "illegal" calls and the NCAA changed those rules and allow them today.


He violated them twice. I’m not saying the rules were good, I’m just saying there are rules and he broke them and he was banned from college. He made 550 illegal calls at the time. He was placed on probation for 3 years then violated with 10 more conference calls and 35 illegal calls.

Not only that.. he broke the rules and then lied to the NCAA and IU. And was banned for 5 years from coaching.

Sugar coat it however you want. But Sampson broke the rules a lot, and he lied about doing it.

A guy who is lying about these infractions is not a guy who Louisville needs right now.


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"A guy who is lying about these infractions is not a guy who Louisville needs right now."

You make it sound like this happened recently. This happened almost 14 years ago. Do you really think Louisville would not hire Sampson if he was available because of something (that is legal today) happened that long ago? They'd hire him in a heartbeat. There's a reason why there's talk about hiring Sampson.


The reason he was given a 5 year Ban was because he lied and tried to cover up the infractions. The NCAA has been much more merciful in situations where the guilty party was forthcoming about the issues. Sampson was not. To me, that was the biggest issue with his cheating case not the actual cheating


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Is Kelvin Sampson getting mentions at Louisville
I mean this is the same guy who called it an “alleged Bite” and that he watched it 3x and there was no bite lol.

He’s elite at Coaching… and lying.

"Let's address the bite. There wasn't a bite. There was an alleged bite," Sampson said. "So, somebody said somebody bit. They go to the line. I just watched the film. I watched three (times) to make sure I was right, too. If you watch it once, you might be wrong. I watched it once. I watched it twice. I watched it three times, and I had my staff look. There wasn't a bite. There should have been a jump ball. It's our ball, our possession and we should have had a ball on the side."


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(02-03-2022 08:50 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  I mean this is the same guy who called it an “alleged Bite” and that he watched it 3x and there was no bite lol.

He’s elite at Coaching… and lying.

"Let's address the bite. There wasn't a bite. There was an alleged bite," Sampson said. "So, somebody said somebody bit. They go to the line. I just watched the film. I watched three (times) to make sure I was right, too. If you watch it once, you might be wrong. I watched it once. I watched it twice. I watched it three times, and I had my staff look. There wasn't a bite. There should have been a jump ball. It's our ball, our possession and we should have had a ball on the side."


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yes, the same wrong clip that was circulating.. he watche the wrong clip..as did everyone in the nation live
i was the 1st on the board to notice it was the wrong clip and that was hours after the game
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Is Kelvin Sampson getting mentions at Louisville
(02-03-2022 08:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-03-2022 08:50 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  I mean this is the same guy who called it an “alleged Bite” and that he watched it 3x and there was no bite lol.

He’s elite at Coaching… and lying.

"Let's address the bite. There wasn't a bite. There was an alleged bite," Sampson said. "So, somebody said somebody bit. They go to the line. I just watched the film. I watched three (times) to make sure I was right, too. If you watch it once, you might be wrong. I watched it once. I watched it twice. I watched it three times, and I had my staff look. There wasn't a bite. There should have been a jump ball. It's our ball, our possession and we should have had a ball on the side."


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yes, the same wrong clip that was circulating.. he watche the wrong clip..as did everyone in the nation live
i was the 1st on the board to notice it was the wrong clip and that was hours after the game


Lol I knew I’d get you going with this one. Just ramping up the trash talk for Sunday when we breast feed you.


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RE: Is Kelvin Sampson getting mentions at Louisville
(02-03-2022 08:37 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  The reason he was given a 5 year Ban was because he lied and tried to cover up the infractions. The NCAA has been much more merciful in situations where the guilty party was forthcoming about the issues. Sampson was not. To me, that was the biggest issue with his cheating case not the actual cheating


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this is also bs.. the ncaa has never been merciful

the majority of ncaa cases/sanctions are from being forthcoming,..the ncaa doesn't have investigation units to uncover anything, most infractions are self-reported

---look at what killed smu with larry brown.. a student tutor (on staff) cheated for a player that wasnt even in the rotation.. and it was the tutor who did it of her own free will, and wasn't asked too (wasnt paid for it or anything) was just a favor because they were friends..
larry also initially said he didn't talk to the player since the incident , but then larry came back 5mins later and said, he just remembered that he did see him

that is the entirety of the smu case in which they were found guilty off.. the book was THROWN at smu, one of the hardest basketball punishments ever

--- UConn was extremely forthcoming with the ollie infraction in an attempt to claim cause...which was just using a friends gym to practice ..they were given multiyear probation and vacated wins


-- oklahoma st current postseason ban is based on a $300 loan in which the player paid back n 2017, from an assistant that has absolutely nothing to do with the current staff, and not tied to a single current player
in which Oklahoma state was extremely forthcoming and self-imposed sanctions in 2018!!

the part i bolded is not grounded in reality..the ncaa loves to throw the book at forthcoming people
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RE: Is Kelvin Sampson getting mentions at Louisville
(02-03-2022 08:58 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(02-03-2022 08:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-03-2022 08:50 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  I mean this is the same guy who called it an “alleged Bite” and that he watched it 3x and there was no bite lol.

He’s elite at Coaching… and lying.

"Let's address the bite. There wasn't a bite. There was an alleged bite," Sampson said. "So, somebody said somebody bit. They go to the line. I just watched the film. I watched three (times) to make sure I was right, too. If you watch it once, you might be wrong. I watched it once. I watched it twice. I watched it three times, and I had my staff look. There wasn't a bite. There should have been a jump ball. It's our ball, our possession and we should have had a ball on the side."


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yes, the same wrong clip that was circulating.. he watche the wrong clip..as did everyone in the nation live
i was the 1st on the board to notice it was the wrong clip and that was hours after the game


Lol I knew I’d get you going with this one. Just ramping up the trash talk for Sunday when we breast feed you.


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I'll play along, it's super-duper cold in Houston today (25 degrees!!@!) so need something to get me boiling. Let's see if you can. 02-13-banana

The way I see it, Cincy would gladly donate both their huevos to have a coach like Sampson, they'd probably throw in the "sausage" as well if it was actually Sampson. (might as well, the sausage is pretty useless without the huevos).

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RE: Is Kelvin Sampson getting mentions at Louisville
(02-03-2022 08:58 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(02-03-2022 08:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-03-2022 08:50 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  I mean this is the same guy who called it an “alleged Bite” and that he watched it 3x and there was no bite lol.

He’s elite at Coaching… and lying.

"Let's address the bite. There wasn't a bite. There was an alleged bite," Sampson said. "So, somebody said somebody bit. They go to the line. I just watched the film. I watched three (times) to make sure I was right, too. If you watch it once, you might be wrong. I watched it once. I watched it twice. I watched it three times, and I had my staff look. There wasn't a bite. There should have been a jump ball. It's our ball, our possession and we should have had a ball on the side."


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yes, the same wrong clip that was circulating.. he watche the wrong clip..as did everyone in the nation live
i was the 1st on the board to notice it was the wrong clip and that was hours after the game


Lol I knew I’d get you going with this one. Just ramping up the trash talk for Sunday when we breast feed you.


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Like the Bearcats breastfed Tulane at home?

Lucky the Bearcats are facing a coogs team missing their 2 starting guys. Otherwise it would be another AAC tourney with 91-54 coogs win over Cincy lol.
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RE: Is Kelvin Sampson getting mentions at Louisville
(02-03-2022 08:58 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(02-03-2022 08:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-03-2022 08:50 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  I mean this is the same guy who called it an “alleged Bite” and that he watched it 3x and there was no bite lol.

He’s elite at Coaching… and lying.

"Let's address the bite. There wasn't a bite. There was an alleged bite," Sampson said. "So, somebody said somebody bit. They go to the line. I just watched the film. I watched three (times) to make sure I was right, too. If you watch it once, you might be wrong. I watched it once. I watched it twice. I watched it three times, and I had my staff look. There wasn't a bite. There should have been a jump ball. It's our ball, our possession and we should have had a ball on the side."

Wha happened?????
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yes, the same wrong clip that was circulating.. he watche the wrong clip..as did everyone in the nation live
i was the 1st on the board to notice it was the wrong clip and that was hours after the game


Lol I knew I’d get you going with this one. Just ramping up the trash talk for Sunday when we breast feed you.


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Wha happened?????
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Memphis fans are just mad because they wish Louisville would come and take Penny off their hands lol
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No.
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(02-07-2022 05:00 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Memphis fans are just mad because they wish Louisville would come and take Penny off their hands lol

I think most Memphis fans like Penny. The minority Penny-haters on this board just so happen to be frequent posters so it seems we all share their sentiments. Not me. Even when we win, they throw barbs at him, so I've learned to tune them out like white noise now.
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(02-13-2022 10:20 AM)Virginia Tiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2022 05:00 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Memphis fans are just mad because they wish Louisville would come and take Penny off their hands lol

I think most Memphis fans like Penny. The minority Penny-haters on this board just so happen to be frequent posters so it seems we all share their sentiments. Not me. Even when we win, they throw barbs at him, so I've learned to tune them out like white noise now.

The problem with Memphis fans is they coddle their coaches (Not Me!). Similar to how Southern Mamas coddle their Peter Pan sons. "He's a good ole' boy". No, he's a lazy, "I'm never going to grow up Peter Pan. "Don't you talk to my baby like that". I know. I had a southern mama. No mom, I needed guidance and a kick in the ass.

People that criticize him still love him, but they're sick of him blaming everyone else for his shortcomings. He's a narcissist. He won't listen to anyone. You can't grow as a coach if you can't admit your mistakes.

I will admit he's gotten much better recently. He admitted he F'd up trying to design the team around Duren and Bates (probably made them a **** load of promises to get them to commit to Memphis). Nothing against them. They're both great kids that really want to learn. Minott too.

But it created a huge divide between them and the veterans. The vets were resentful and did nothing to help the youngsters along. Basically the locker room was a total mess. Zero chemistry going into the season. Penny has recently said he should have eased them into the rotation and let the vets lead the way to start the season. I actually like and respect him more for admitting that. Finally!

I don't think Penny's a bad coach. He understands basketball as well as anybody. But he's been a bad manager. It's not the same thing. Managing ego's is not the same as coaching X's and O's.

As an art director I knew I understood art as well as anyone. I always felt comfortable seeing where the problem was and how to fix it. But I was not very good at managing a bunch of artists when I started. I had no idea all the bull**** I was going to have to deal with.

Managing people can be really hard. It was a balancing act that had nothing to do with art talent. Getting people to buy in can be a real challenge. Rewarding when it finally happens but it takes a lot of work.

If his recent comments are genuine, I think he might be figuring it out. We'll see.
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(02-13-2022 10:20 AM)Virginia Tiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2022 05:00 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Memphis fans are just mad because they wish Louisville would come and take Penny off their hands lol

I think most Memphis fans like Penny. The minority Penny-haters on this board just so happen to be frequent posters so it seems we all share their sentiments. Not me. Even when we win, they throw barbs at him, so I've learned to tune them out like white noise now.

The problem with Memphis fans is they coddle their coaches (Not Me!). Similar to how Southern Mamas coddle their Peter Pan sons. "He's a good ole' boy". No, he's a lazy, "I'm never going to grow up Peter Pan. "Don't you talk to my baby like that". I know. I had a southern mama. No mom, I needed guidance and a kick in the ass.

People that criticize him still love him, but they're sick of him blaming everyone else for his shortcomings. He's a narcissist. He won't listen to anyone. You can't grow as a coach if you can't admit your mistakes.

I will admit he's gotten much better recently. He admitted he F'd up trying to design the team around Duren and Bates (probably made them a **** load of promises to get them to commit to Memphis). Nothing against them. They're both great kids that really want to learn. Minott too.

But it created a huge divide between them and the veterans. The vets were resentful and did nothing to help the youngsters along. Basically the locker room was a total mess. Zero chemistry going into the season. Penny has recently said he should have eased them into the rotation and let the vets lead the way to start the season. I actually like and respect him more for admitting that. Finally!

I don't think Penny's a bad coach. He understands basketball as well as anybody. But he's been a bad manager. It's not the same thing. Managing ego's is not the same as coaching X's and O's.

As an art director I knew I understood art as well as anyone. I always felt comfortable seeing where the problem was and how to fix it. But I was not very good at managing a bunch of artists when I started. I had no idea all the bull**** I was going to have to deal with.

Managing people can be really hard. It was a balancing act that had nothing to do with art talent. Getting people to buy in can be a real challenge. Rewarding when it finally happens but it takes a lot of work.

If his recent comments are genuine, I think he might be figuring it out. We'll see.

I agree 100% about managing people. Everyone is motivated differently and good managers figure out which motivation style to employ on each individual. Like you, it took me a few years to figure that out when I promoted into management. One thing that hurts CPH is that he is a genuinely nice guy, which makes it harder to make tough decisions that cause hurt feelings. He has to get over that (preferably sooner rather than later).
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(02-14-2022 09:59 AM)Virginia Tiger Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 11:05 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:20 AM)Virginia Tiger Wrote:  
(02-07-2022 05:00 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Memphis fans are just mad because they wish Louisville would come and take Penny off their hands lol

I think most Memphis fans like Penny. The minority Penny-haters on this board just so happen to be frequent posters so it seems we all share their sentiments. Not me. Even when we win, they throw barbs at him, so I've learned to tune them out like white noise now.

The problem with Memphis fans is they coddle their coaches (Not Me!). Similar to how Southern Mamas coddle their Peter Pan sons. "He's a good ole' boy". No, he's a lazy, "I'm never going to grow up Peter Pan. "Don't you talk to my baby like that". I know. I had a southern mama. No mom, I needed guidance and a kick in the ass.

People that criticize him still love him, but they're sick of him blaming everyone else for his shortcomings. He's a narcissist. He won't listen to anyone. You can't grow as a coach if you can't admit your mistakes.

I will admit he's gotten much better recently. He admitted he F'd up trying to design the team around Duren and Bates (probably made them a **** load of promises to get them to commit to Memphis). Nothing against them. They're both great kids that really want to learn. Minott too.

But it created a huge divide between them and the veterans. The vets were resentful and did nothing to help the youngsters along. Basically the locker room was a total mess. Zero chemistry going into the season. Penny has recently said he should have eased them into the rotation and let the vets lead the way to start the season. I actually like and respect him more for admitting that. Finally!

I don't think Penny's a bad coach. He understands basketball as well as anybody. But he's been a bad manager. It's not the same thing. Managing ego's is not the same as coaching X's and O's.

As an art director I knew I understood art as well as anyone. I always felt comfortable seeing where the problem was and how to fix it. But I was not very good at managing a bunch of artists when I started. I had no idea all the bull**** I was going to have to deal with.

Managing people can be really hard. It was a balancing act that had nothing to do with art talent. Getting people to buy in can be a real challenge. Rewarding when it finally happens but it takes a lot of work.

If his recent comments are genuine, I think he might be figuring it out. We'll see.

I agree 100% about managing people. Everyone is motivated differently and good managers figure out which motivation style to employ on each individual. Like you, it took me a few years to figure that out when I promoted into management. One thing that hurts CPH is that he is a genuinely nice guy, which makes it harder to make tough decisions that cause hurt feelings. He has to get over that (preferably sooner rather than later).

100%. I had one guy you had to hit him over his head with a sledgehammer to get his attention, while I had a female who would disintegrate if I looked at her the wrong way. Lol
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