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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
(01-01-2022 11:03 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-01-2022 10:56 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-01-2022 10:24 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The main issue was that UC’s OL that has 2 1st team All AAC players and one or two second teamers was incredibly overmatched by Alabama’s front 4 on the DL. It looked like we had high schoolers out there on roller skates a lot of the plays. Shows how far we all have to go.

As great as fickell is he is very stubborn in the "we do what we do" kind of things, particularly on offense. Uc had no chance without hitting shot plays. But it was clear uc's gameplan was very it out quick every time. It worked the first drive until Saban adjusted what they were doing. We were successful with quick passes and running at them early but Saban quickly adjusted. They stopped really rushing us hard on early downs, focusing on gap integrity and getting in the passing lanes with their lineman. Then on passing downs they would let their line eat.

Saban also adjusted Bama typical offense to safe passes away from our all American corners and power runs. He even saw the film from Tulsa where we sometimes are late getting set and went fast in the power game early not only taking advantage of our rush defense but the fact we were out of position on several snaps. (Our defense did at least adjust to the tempo issues and after that settled in and got stops)

Once Saban countered our quick passing there was no offensive adjustment. Des' strength all year has been down field passing and because Saban was being conservative with his dline on early downs there were shot plays available. Uc didn't try any until late (hit young on the underneath deep post). It was awful.

We also didn't try anything creative or tricky to make them think. Just lined up and stuck to the gameplan on offense even after Saban countered and took it away.

03-lmfao

They just beat Cincys arse. Too much talent. Bama took your manhood on the first drive. That's when the game was over
Tulane football is about as entertaining as watching old people fornicate. BettyWhite’a corpse getting reamed by a stray dog is more fun than Tulane football. Tulane offers nothing of any significance except athletic embarrassment when either your football or basketball program plays them too close, thank god we will not have to play Tulane ever again in anything once we join big 12. 03-lmfao
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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
(01-01-2022 06:08 PM)Lurkercat Wrote:  
(01-01-2022 10:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-01-2022 08:22 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Uc had its chances. Defense came in with a plan to limit their Heisman qb and were willing to sacrifice some running success. Bama smartly took advantage but after that first drive uc's defense got plenty of stops. It was 17-6 entering the 4th. Bama took a while to run away.

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IMO, Alabama played a conservative game because they realized that during the season, Cincy had made a lot of hay via big plays on defense. Particularly blitzes that resulted in strip-sacks and also picks by the secondary. So Alabama took that off the table by running the ball and throwing conservatively. Also, they lost one of their two dynamic wideouts in the SEC title game so didn't have that same wideout threat.

IOWs, rather than Cincy taking the Alabama QB out of the game, Alabama took Cincy's All-American CBs out of the game. I agree with those who say Tulsa provided kind of a blueprint for that with their running game.

In the end, sure, you can say if Cincy had made this or that play the game could have been closer. But the stats don't lie - Alabama led start to finish, and rolled up 480 yards to 220 for Cincy. That's a domination.

This is what I believe too. Bama schemed our best players out and we did nothing to get them back in. Just let bama run up the gut for 500 yards.

On offense we also played directly into bama's game plan. We had ridder in the pocket like he was Tom Brady. He's at his best when hes moving and we literally didn't move him around all game

I agree. I was most disappointed in the offense. First drive UC was really running the ball well and just stopped when they got to the 10. Ridder is a great player, but while in the pocket he's got to start moving his eyes. Those batted balls were on him staring down where he's going with the ball. The first batted ball was a TD all the way. Momentum is a funny thing in football and no telling if the Cats score there. The Cats had a great season no doubt!
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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
Tulsa and Tulane have more NYD Bowl wins than UC.

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(01-01-2022 09:00 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Tulsa and Tulane have more NYD Bowl wins than UC.

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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
(01-01-2022 09:00 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Tulsa and Tulane have more NYD Bowl wins than UC.

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Our 0-4 BCS/NY6 record is brutal, sure. But lol bragging about a game from the 40s
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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
Congratulations to UC on a great season and for making history as the first non-power team to make the playoff. Well done.

The fact of the matter here is very simple: They had to play the most dominant team in College Football and it was always going to be a struggle to stay in the game much less beat the Tide.

More to the point - the truth is that none of us would have done any better and the vast majority of much, much worse. Anyone criticizing Cincy should keep that in mind.

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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.
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(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.


Truth.

I was dam impressed with how Cincy played in this game and all year.



O by the way *our* last NYD win came vs Alabama and it was more recent than the 40s.

Also truth.
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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
(01-02-2022 11:45 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.


Truth.

I was dam impressed with how Cincy played in this game and all year.



O by the way *our* last NYD win came vs Alabama and it was more recent than the 40s.

Also truth.

1954.... dude, seriously?

(01-02-2022 02:09 PM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  Congratulations to UC on a great season and for making history as the first non-power team to make the playoff. Well done.

The fact of the matter here is very simple: They had to play the most dominant team in College Football and it was always going to be a struggle to stay in the game much less beat the Tide.

More to the point - the truth is that none of us would have done any better and the vast majority of much, much worse. Anyone criticizing Cincy should keep that in mind.

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lots of good try vibes in here for the 0-4 bearcats
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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.

I get your point, but a lot of teams DID play Alabama and Georgia better this season, e.g. Florida. That said, I don't think anyone would really have done better in a playoff game against them with all the extra prep time which I'm sure was your point.
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1954 indeed!
I wasn’t there, but I got there as soon as I could…
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I know it was a loss, but congrats to UC for having a great year and getting to the playoffs.
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(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.

Texas AM, Auburn both did better against Bama

There's 2 for you.
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(01-08-2022 11:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.

Texas AM, Auburn both did better against Bama

There's 2 for you.

And Auburn lost to Houston. Both auburn and a&m had home field. I think people don't always realize how big an advantage the extra prep is when you're as talented as Bama with the best coach in college football history in charge. They have kicked everyone's ass in the semis. since year two of the cfp. In the course of the season, when Bama only had one week to prepare and you have home field you can sometimes hang. It's much harder to overcome the talent disparity in the semis.
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RE: Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
(01-08-2022 11:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.

Texas AM, Auburn both did better against Bama

There's 2 for you.

Alabama was clearly more talented and everyone knew that going in. Doesn’t make Cincy not top 4. They clearly were top 4. Still a shamed they weren’t able to execute on the two drives they had some success to make it more interesting.

Football ain’t transitory. Saban and 10-15 extra analyst had also had around 4 more weeks to prepare for Cincy, but no excuse. They ran up the middle just like Tulsa. Good game plan. Our offense shiii the bed.

Latest CFP Ranking

Top 10 Teams:
3) Georgia W 41-24…17 points
4) Cincinnati W 27-6…21 points
8) Ole Miss W 42-21…21 points

Top 25 Teams:
21) Arkansas W 42-35…7 points
25) Texas A&M L 41-38…-3 points

Non Too 25 Teams:
1) Auburn W 24-22…2 points
2) Florida W 31-29…2 points
3) LSU W 20-14 6 points


Looks like Bama gets up for the big boy teams and considered Cincy as such…
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(01-08-2022 11:37 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 11:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.

Texas AM, Auburn both did better against Bama

There's 2 for you.

And Auburn lost to Houston. Both auburn and a&m had home field. I think people don't always realize how big an advantage the extra prep is when you're as talented as Bama with the best coach in college football history in charge. They have kicked everyone's ass in the semis. since year two of the cfp. In the course of the season, when Bama only had one week to prepare and you have home field you can sometimes hang. It's much harder to overcome the talent disparity in the semis.

Saban and his hoard of staff with a month to prep is almost unfair. He’s likely the greatest college coach of all time.

I tried to tell people. Look back at their performance in semifinal games. Not only does he win those, the games normally are lopsided scores regardless of the program on the other sideline.
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Playing with house money. UC had their chances, but couldn't make the plays. Out coached with better players.

14-6 in the 4th quarter. I will take it.

UC may never get to the level they can compete with Bama on the lines, but they can be a very entertaining top 10-20 team year in and out.

Along with a solid P5 check and a chance at a playoff. Yup, I will take it.
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Official CFP Semifinals Cotton Bowl Thread: Cincinnati vs Alabama
(01-09-2022 10:45 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 11:37 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(01-08-2022 11:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-02-2022 02:34 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  I can't think of any other team in college football that would have done better than Cincy and Michigan did this year against Bama and Georgia. Notre Dame? Nope. Utah? Nope. Ohio State? Nope.

Texas AM, Auburn both did better against Bama

There's 2 for you.

And Auburn lost to Houston. Both auburn and a&m had home field. I think people don't always realize how big an advantage the extra prep is when you're as talented as Bama with the best coach in college football history in charge. They have kicked everyone's ass in the semis. since year two of the cfp. In the course of the season, when Bama only had one week to prepare and you have home field you can sometimes hang. It's much harder to overcome the talent disparity in the semis.

Saban and his hoard of staff with a month to prep is almost unfair. He’s likely the greatest college coach of all time.

I tried to tell people. Look back at their performance in semifinal games. Not only does he win those, the games normally are lopsided scores regardless of the program on the other sideline.


Only has a week to prep for Georgia this time. HOW WILL THEY DO IT
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(01-09-2022 05:38 PM)bearcat29 Wrote:  Playing with house money. UC had their chances, but couldn't make the plays. Out coached with better players.

14-6 in the 4th quarter. I will take it.

UC may never get to the level they can compete with Bama on the lines, but they can be a very entertaining top 10-20 team year in and out.

Along with a solid P5 check and a chance at a playoff. Yup, I will take it.

It was 17-6 most of the 3rd Q and 1 minute into the 4th.
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