(08-20-2021 02:38 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 02:21 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 02:13 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 01:02 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 12:59 PM)MUther Wrote:  You misspelled "educators"

No, I didn't. Educators do not make you liberal. Knowledge does. Facts. And it is not right or left thing. We did once have liberal and moderate Republicans. Highly educated, socially liberal people like Teddy Roosevelt, Nelson Rockefeller, Edward Brooke, Clifford Case, John Chafee, Jacob Javitz, Jim Jeffords, and many other Republican politicians once roamed the northeast. I even voted for one of them, Charlie Crist of Florida.

"Knowledge makes you liberal".................that ranks as one of the most ignorant statements someone could make. As a matter of fact, knowledge comes from experience, not from someone opening a book and preaching their angle of it to you. Experience doesn't make anyone liberal or conservative. I find it very amusing that those who earn their way and work hard in life, in school, on the job etc tend to lean toward conservatism simply due to the working values the ideology promotes, that those who tend to slack and expect to get paid the same, same treatment than those who work harder, tend to lean liberal because it promotes it. Isn't that just about reality of it?

Knowledge does not make you liberal, unless you are referring to students that are impressionable and have LIBERAL professors slinging their angle of whatever subject at them. It's up to the student to decide for themselves. I had 2 professors in bio geography and water resources who were liberal hippies from back in the day and their teaching angles definitely confirmed it, it was up to me to decipher what the actual science was and what their angle was. Half the class could figure it out. We learned what we needed and didn't prescribe to their crap to get the work done. Knowledge as you say, made none of us liberal. It's the damn professors and their angles that do that crap.

Actually, Knowledge does make you liberal and Education is what gives you knowledge, whether it is through Academia or through experience. And, if you look at the results of the elections, you will see that the higher educated you are the more likely you are to be a liberal or vote for liberal politicians or ideas. Also, interestingly enough, most welfare recipients in red states are voting for conservative politicians.

So, once again, you are shown to be factually incorrect, on every count.

Exit polling from the most recent election
Exit polling from the 2016 election

There is no fact in what you say. A poll is an opinion and does not speak for the whole, you going to send an envelope to every household to get a real accurate reading of who is who? No, you nor any other liberal ever will. Speaking of polls, how did they get it soo wrong in 2016??? if polls mean so much.... If I was a book worm and worked nothing but an office job and I never saw what it was like to really get out and make something more of myself, sure, I would probably pump my fist in the air to liberalism. If I was gay, who comprises an extremely small portion of the population, I'd pump my fist. If I was of a race that was non white, I would pump my fist because of what I have been told. There is a reason the Liberal politicians target certain voters, and it surely is not because of knowledge, otherwise the "green new deal" would want to make you puke, assuming you had knowledge on the subject(s). There is also a reason this country in split down the middle, and with as many people who are "educated with knowledge" these days, how can that be?? All the african american population centers still vote majority democrat/liberal, knowledge have anything to do with that? Knowledge has nothing to do with politics, the angle does, it really is that simple.

You can't poll the liberal vote accurately because most of them were dead or made up when they voted.

(08-20-2021 12:57 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 12:55 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 06:16 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 08:46 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  I can’t say anything, Marshall has went extremely liberal over the last 5 years or so. It’s one of the reasons I stopped donating to the actual University.

These are also all reasons why Liberty is my 2nd favorite team and to be honest, if Marshall goes much further down the liberal path then I will completely stop supporting them and give all of my support to Liberty.

MU has always been on the Liberal side. When I was there in the Mid-Late 90's. Out of the three Colleges and Universities, I have done Undergraduate work at. MU by far was the most Liberal.

It was a teachers college and most of the alumni were in the education profession early on. The union persuaded the teachers to be liberal and create more liberals. That influence plus the movements of the 60s and 70s at all universities made Marshall even more liberal. If Marshall had more alumni paying real taxes and in higher brackets, there would probably be more of a push back the other direction. Plus their dependence on state and federal monies to stay afloat keeps them in the need of big government.

Education persuades people to be liberals. Knowledge. Not politics, not unions, not government money.

Not education, indoctrination. How else do you explain 25 different genders and not being able to define the word "woman?" When the people who push trans ideology are questioned about their science, they get super defensive and offended at the mere questioning. The science behind putting kids through sex changes is very, very unsound, yet left leaning colleges continue to push this scientific garbage.

(08-20-2021 01:24 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Knowledge makes you liberal. /thread

If that was the case, people would not get more conservative as they mature and get older, having more knowledge.