Quote:A former soldier-turned-Conservative MP just lit up the House of Commons in an emotional speech about the failure in Afghanistan and the ‘shameful’ actions of Joe Biden.

As a veteran who served there, Tom Tugendhat said he was feeling a mixture of “anger, grief, and rage” over what has happened, given the sacrifices that people have made, including watching “good men go into the earth, taking with them a part of me and a part of all of us.” He noted how many who had served were “struggling” over the emotional reaction to this.





But then Tugendhat took on Joe Biden. He said it was with “great sadness” that he had to criticize the U.S. actions. “To see their commander in chief (President Joe Biden) call into the question the courage of men I fought with, to claim that they ran is shameful,” Tugendhat emotionally declared. “Those who have not fought for the colors they fly should be careful about criticizing those who have.”

In a devastating example of how much Joe Biden’s folly has hurt us, Tugendhat then said that they could no longer rely on the U.S. — their strongest ally — when needed.

“This is a harsh lesson for all of us and if we’re not careful it could be a very, very difficult lesson for our allies. It doesn’t need to be. We can set out a vision, clearly articulate it, for reinvigorating our European NATO partners, to make sure that we are not dependent on a single ally, on the decision of a single leader, that we can work together with Japan and Australia, France and Germany, with partners large and small, and make sure we hold the line together.”

“The Cold War was won with patience. Cypress is at peace with patience. South Korea with almost ten times the number of troops that America had in Afghanistan, is prosperous through patience. So let’s stop talking about forever wars. Let’s recognize that forever peace is bought not cheaply, but hard, through determination and the will to endure. And that the tragedy of Afghanistan is that we’re swapping that patient achievement for a second fire and a second war.”

Unfortunately, Biden has all but guaranteed we will be dealing with a terrorist state, supporting terrorism around the world — the very thing we went there to stop and confront. He’s made it so much worse now with the incompetence of the pullout. That’s a terrible thing to understand after 20 years of war and as we approach the twentieth anniversary of 9/11.

Tugendhat related a story from his fighting days:

“It is the image of a man whose name I never knew, carrying a child who had died hours earlier, carrying this child into our firebase and begging for help. There was nothing we could do. It was over.

Mr. Speaker, this is what defeat looks like — it’s when you no longer have the choice of how to help. This doesn’t need to be defeat. But at the moment, it damn well feels like it.”

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We should have a real American president. Alas, we do not. So this happens.

(08-18-2021 04:12 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:A former soldier-turned-Conservative MP just lit up the House of Commons in an emotional speech about the failure in Afghanistan and the ‘shameful’ actions of Joe Biden.

As a veteran who served there, Tom Tugendhat said he was feeling a mixture of “anger, grief, and rage” over what has happened, given the sacrifices that people have made, including watching “good men go into the earth, taking with them a part of me and a part of all of us.” He noted how many who had served were “struggling” over the emotional reaction to this.





But then Tugendhat took on Joe Biden. He said it was with “great sadness” that he had to criticize the U.S. actions. “To see their commander in chief (President Joe Biden) call into the question the courage of men I fought with, to claim that they ran is shameful,” Tugendhat emotionally declared. “Those who have not fought for the colors they fly should be careful about criticizing those who have.”

In a devastating example of how much Joe Biden’s folly has hurt us, Tugendhat then said that they could no longer rely on the U.S. — their strongest ally — when needed.

“This is a harsh lesson for all of us and if we’re not careful it could be a very, very difficult lesson for our allies. It doesn’t need to be. We can set out a vision, clearly articulate it, for reinvigorating our European NATO partners, to make sure that we are not dependent on a single ally, on the decision of a single leader, that we can work together with Japan and Australia, France and Germany, with partners large and small, and make sure we hold the line together.”

“The Cold War was won with patience. Cypress is at peace with patience. South Korea with almost ten times the number of troops that America had in Afghanistan, is prosperous through patience. So let’s stop talking about forever wars. Let’s recognize that forever peace is bought not cheaply, but hard, through determination and the will to endure. And that the tragedy of Afghanistan is that we’re swapping that patient achievement for a second fire and a second war.”

Unfortunately, Biden has all but guaranteed we will be dealing with a terrorist state, supporting terrorism around the world — the very thing we went there to stop and confront. He’s made it so much worse now with the incompetence of the pullout. That’s a terrible thing to understand after 20 years of war and as we approach the twentieth anniversary of 9/11.

Tugendhat related a story from his fighting days:

“It is the image of a man whose name I never knew, carrying a child who had died hours earlier, carrying this child into our firebase and begging for help. There was nothing we could do. It was over.

Mr. Speaker, this is what defeat looks like — it’s when you no longer have the choice of how to help. This doesn’t need to be defeat. But at the moment, it damn well feels like it.”

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We should have a real American president. Alas, we do not. So this happens.

Bravo.

The Commies on this board sure are quiet. I wonder if they still approve of The SOBs actions and how he's mangled our country is such a short time. I fear what is in store for the remainder of his term if someone can screw things up so badly in such a short time.

Come on you Commies, defend your feckless, OOPs, fearless leader.

“It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

(08-19-2021 10:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

Where's the lie

(08-19-2021 10:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

Again, not about getting out, which was the right call and why Trump put the wheels in motion to make it happen.

If your car is dirty, it’s a good idea to wash it. However, you don’t wash it by applying sulfuric acid with 100 grit sand paper. That turns the right idea into a horrible outcome.

So much for voting Democrat so our allies will love us again.

The only reason we have "Allies" is because they know that when they confront a bully we will stand beside them and if need be punch the bully in the mouth. Those days are gone, as will soon be our "Allies". The US has been the sheepdog of the world since the early 1900s. Our current leaders would prefer us to be the sheep.

(08-19-2021 10:47 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

Again, not about getting out, which was the right call and why Trump put the wheels in motion to make it happen.

If your car is dirty, it’s a good idea to wash it. However, you don’t wash it by applying sulfuric acid with 100 grit sand paper. That turns the right idea into a horrible outcome.

It WAS the right thing to do. Trump and Biden did the right thing.

(08-20-2021 11:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:47 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

Again, not about getting out, which was the right call and why Trump put the wheels in motion to make it happen.

If your car is dirty, it’s a good idea to wash it. However, you don’t wash it by applying sulfuric acid with 100 grit sand paper. That turns the right idea into a horrible outcome.

It WAS the right thing to do. Trump and Biden did the right thing.

Did you ever see that movie Less than Zero?

(08-20-2021 11:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:47 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

Again, not about getting out, which was the right call and why Trump put the wheels in motion to make it happen.

If your car is dirty, it’s a good idea to wash it. However, you don’t wash it by applying sulfuric acid with 100 grit sand paper. That turns the right idea into a horrible outcome.

It WAS the right thing to do. Trump and Biden did the right thing.

Yes, it was the right thing to do. Although after seeing what’s going on over there due the gross incompetence of this Administration I’m starting to have second thoughts. This Clown Biden along with his henchmen have taken ineptitude to another level on a not so grand scale.

Feel like The Uk has no right to criticize. They have left too, have they not? What did they do to prevent this? How many countries did they invade, abandon, and leave in disarray in the 20th century?

(08-20-2021 03:02 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 11:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:47 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

Again, not about getting out, which was the right call and why Trump put the wheels in motion to make it happen.

If your car is dirty, it’s a good idea to wash it. However, you don’t wash it by applying sulfuric acid with 100 grit sand paper. That turns the right idea into a horrible outcome.

It WAS the right thing to do. Trump and Biden did the right thing.

Yes, it was the right thing to do. Although after seeing what’s going on over there due the gross incompetence of this Administration I’m starting to have second thoughts. This Clown Biden along with his henchmen have taken ineptitude to another level on a not so grand scale.

Are you under the illusion that Afghanistan would have survived had Trump stayed in office?

(08-23-2021 10:43 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 03:02 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(08-20-2021 11:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:47 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-19-2021 10:40 AM)Danforth Wrote:  “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” he tweeted in February 2012.


Donald Trump

Again, not about getting out, which was the right call and why Trump put the wheels in motion to make it happen.

If your car is dirty, it’s a good idea to wash it. However, you don’t wash it by applying sulfuric acid with 100 grit sand paper. That turns the right idea into a horrible outcome.

It WAS the right thing to do. Trump and Biden did the right thing.

Yes, it was the right thing to do. Although after seeing what’s going on over there due the gross incompetence of this Administration I’m starting to have second thoughts. This Clown Biden along with his henchmen have taken ineptitude to another level on a not so grand scale.

Are you under the illusion that Afghanistan would have survived had Trump stayed in office?

We will never know

We're under the illusion that the American citizens in Afghanistan would have gotten out safely if Trump was in charge. That's what most Americans care about, not what happens to Afghanistan. Being a commie piece of chit, dumbforth, means you don't get that.