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DOJ Admits It is Withholding Potentially Exculpatory Evidence in January 6...
Quote:The Department of Justice has provided one of the first documented concessions that prosecutors are withholding potentially exculpatory evidence in court cases concerning January 6 defendants.

Acting United States Attorney Channing D. Phillips suggested on Monday that this is the motivation behind keeping more than 14,000 hours of documentary footage of the January 6 events out of the hands of defense attorneys and the public in United States v. Couy Griffin.

Griffin, a county commissioner for Otero County, New Mexico, was arrested for Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building and Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building, on January 19. The prosecution sought to waive the defendants’ right to a speedy trial.

The defendant was released on his own personal recognizance on February 5, 2021. On March 18, 2021, the United States filed a motion for a 60-day continuance of the proceeding, according to the court filing.

The government’s reasoning on the continuance motion was that the Capitol Breach investigation was so complex and sweeping that it would “make the immediate legal proceeding impossible, or result in a miscarriage of justice,” the prosecutors argued. The defense called the prosecution’s bluff. The U.S. attorneys did not want to give the defendant a speedy trial because they have other concerns.

“The same day, Defendant filed an opposition to the government’s motion, objecting to tolling of his constitutional and statutory rights to a speedy trial. Defendant asserted that there was nothing complex about his case, which ‘actually involves pictures of [him] with a bullhorn on the Capitol steps,’ argued that the government had mischaracterized its own ‘logistical and manpower burdens’ as a complexity created by the case itself, and essentially accused the government of weaponizing the STA ‘to strategically manage which trials and cases it wishes to put forward to the public first’,” the court filing states.

The obvious issue is a complication arising over the matter of potentially exculpatory evidence within the more than 14,000 hours of archival footage and other documentary evidence related to the January 6th events at the capitol.

“Although we are aware that we possess some information that the defense may view as supportive of arguments that law enforcement authorized defendants (including Defendant) to enter the restricted grounds, e.g., images of officers hugging or fist bumping rioters, posing for photos with rioters, and moving bike racks, we are not in a position to state whether we have identified all such information,” Acting United States Attorney Channing D. Phillips writes.

There is already publicly available evidence of Capitol Police officers opening doors for attendees of the Electoral College protest, opening gates, posing for selfies, telling protesters to proceed as long as they remain peaceful, and watching unarmed rioters take over the Senate chambers and give speeches, despite outnumbering them.

The potentially exculpatory footage could also provide clues to potential FBI agents and other undercover officers working the extremist groups in the January 6 crowd. At least one undercover agent with the Metropolitan Police Department was confirmed by a Jan. 6 court filing.

When Watergate broke and prosecutors were investigating how to take President Nixon down, the proposition was put forth that the “cover-up was worse than the crime.” That certainly appears to be the case with the January 6 “insurrection.”

The DOJ has not charged any of the 557 defendants with treason, insurrection, or an attempt to overthrow the government, a legal fact that stands in stark relief with the exaggerated claims being made by the U.S. government.

It has, however, still managed to have overcharged scores of defendants for felonies that are now being pleaded down to petty misdemeanors.

“So far, at least 30 defendants have pleaded guilty,” CBS News reported on Wednesday. “At least 24 have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors only, while six have pleaded guilty to felonies.”

“What is obvious now in hindsight is that the Biden Justice Department prosecutors sought and obtained felony charges in many cases based on almost no meaningful review of actual evidence about what happened; it used fear and hysteria to justify doing so,” Shipwreckedcrew of Human Events observes. “Now they are being pressed to provide the evidence that is supposed to support the felony charges they brought, and are unable to do so in the timeframe required by law. So they are abandoning the cases on the best possible outcome available—the least serious of all federal crimes, ‘petty’ misdemeanors.”

“Now that the DOJ has gone down the path of exchanging guilty pleas to misdemeanors for some defendants charged with felonies, it will become more difficult to not do the same for a much larger number of defendants where the facts are substantially the same,” the Human Events piece added.

The Department of Justice appears to have politicized the charges against the Jan. 6 defendants for effect. This is not consistent with “justice,” this is the weaponization of the nation’s highest law enforcement agency to do the bidding of the dominant political party.

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This is why we should have had an independent investigation.
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(08-11-2021 11:36 AM)Danforth Wrote:  This is why we should have had an independent investigation.

Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.
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(08-11-2021 11:43 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:36 AM)Danforth Wrote:  This is why we should have had an independent investigation.

Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.

Are you saying there are no unbiased, independent investigators in the country?
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(08-12-2021 09:27 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:43 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:36 AM)Danforth Wrote:  This is why we should have had an independent investigation.

Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.

Are you saying there are no unbiased, independent investigators in the country world?
Some may be independent but none are without bias.
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(08-12-2021 09:27 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:43 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:36 AM)Danforth Wrote:  This is why we should have had an independent investigation.

Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.

Are you saying there are no unbiased, independent investigators in the country?

Of course there are unbiased, independent investigators all over the country and world to pick from

The problem is ‘who does the picking’ 07-coffee3
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(08-12-2021 09:41 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  
(08-12-2021 09:27 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:43 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:36 AM)Danforth Wrote:  This is why we should have had an independent investigation.

Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.

Are you saying there are no unbiased, independent investigators in the country?

Of course there are unbiased, independent investigators all over the country and world to pick from

The problem is ‘who does the picking’ 07-coffee3

Well the republicans had their chance to have an independent investigation and they refused.
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RE: DOJ Admits It is Withholding Potentially Exculpatory Evidence in January 6...
(08-16-2021 11:59 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-12-2021 09:41 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  
(08-12-2021 09:27 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:43 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:36 AM)Danforth Wrote:  This is why we should have had an independent investigation.

Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.

Are you saying there are no unbiased, independent investigators in the country?

Of course there are unbiased, independent investigators all over the country and world to pick from

The problem is ‘who does the picking’ 07-coffee3

Well the republicans had their chance to have an independent investigation and they refused.

Really, when was that?
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(08-16-2021 11:59 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-12-2021 09:41 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  
(08-12-2021 09:27 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:43 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:36 AM)Danforth Wrote:  This is why we should have had an independent investigation.

Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.

Are you saying there are no unbiased, independent investigators in the country?

Of course there are unbiased, independent investigators all over the country and world to pick from

The problem is ‘who does the picking’ 07-coffee3

Well the republicans had their chance to have an independent investigation and they refused.

Are you referring to Nancy's Rhino selections?
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(08-16-2021 12:42 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 11:59 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-12-2021 09:41 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  
(08-12-2021 09:27 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-11-2021 11:43 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Where are you going to find unbiased, independent investigators? Not democrats. No such thing is needed. This whole thing is a political hit job, complete with political prisoners right here in the USA. By a weaponized DOJ, aided by a politicized FBI.

There is no such animal as an independent investigation.

Are you saying there are no unbiased, independent investigators in the country?

Of course there are unbiased, independent investigators all over the country and world to pick from

The problem is ‘who does the picking’ 07-coffee3

Well the republicans had their chance to have an independent investigation and they refused.

Are you referring to Nancy's Rhino selections?

No. The could have chosen an independent investigation but they refused.
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(08-16-2021 02:36 PM)Danforth Wrote:  No. The could have chosen an independent investigation but they refused.

Liar, Pelosi refused the GOP picks.
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(08-16-2021 02:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:36 PM)Danforth Wrote:  No. The could have chosen an independent investigation but they refused.

Liar, Pelosi refused the GOP picks.

Dude you keep telling me not to be a troll and debate you but you don't even know simple facts.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/100052489...pitol-riot

"Bipartisan legislation to establish an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has failed in the Senate, as Republicans staged their first filibuster since President Biden took office to block the plan."
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(08-17-2021 09:14 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:36 PM)Danforth Wrote:  No. The could have chosen an independent investigation but they refused.

Liar, Pelosi refused the GOP picks.

Dude you keep telling me not to be a troll and debate you but you don't even know simple facts.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/100052489...pitol-riot

"Bipartisan legislation to establish an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has failed in the Senate, as Republicans staged their first filibuster since President Biden took office to block the plan."

Any commission which would force Trump to testify but shield Nancy Pelosi from testifying is not independent nor is it a fact finding commission.
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Charge people with misdemeanors, lock them away in solitary for months as you ignore the 6th Amendment and slow play, and withhold exculpatory evidence. Sounds good to me.

Tell me again why people shouldn’t take to the streets to protest the swamp?
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Knowing how badly the dems wanted to impeach Trump and vote to convict so he couldnt run for office again, you know its a bad sign when they gave that up simply because Nancy Pelosi would have to testify.
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(08-17-2021 09:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 09:14 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:36 PM)Danforth Wrote:  No. The could have chosen an independent investigation but they refused.

Liar, Pelosi refused the GOP picks.

Dude you keep telling me not to be a troll and debate you but you don't even know simple facts.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/100052489...pitol-riot

"Bipartisan legislation to establish an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has failed in the Senate, as Republicans staged their first filibuster since President Biden took office to block the plan."

Any commission which would force Trump to testify but shield Nancy Pelosi from testifying is not independent nor is it a fact finding commission.

Why on earth would Nancy Pelosi have to testify in an independent investigation?
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Good lord, we know what happened, people are being punished, move on.
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RE: DOJ Admits It is Withholding Potentially Exculpatory Evidence in January 6...
(08-17-2021 10:07 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 09:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 09:14 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:36 PM)Danforth Wrote:  No. The could have chosen an independent investigation but they refused.

Liar, Pelosi refused the GOP picks.

Dude you keep telling me not to be a troll and debate you but you don't even know simple facts.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/100052489...pitol-riot

"Bipartisan legislation to establish an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has failed in the Senate, as Republicans staged their first filibuster since President Biden took office to block the plan."

Any commission which would force Trump to testify but shield Nancy Pelosi from testifying is not independent nor is it a fact finding commission.

Why on earth would Nancy Pelosi have to testify in an independent investigation?

To explain her reasoning for declining multiple requests by the capital police for additional security, for starters.
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(08-17-2021 10:15 AM)banker Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 10:07 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 09:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 09:14 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Liar, Pelosi refused the GOP picks.

Dude you keep telling me not to be a troll and debate you but you don't even know simple facts.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/100052489...pitol-riot

"Bipartisan legislation to establish an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has failed in the Senate, as Republicans staged their first filibuster since President Biden took office to block the plan."

Any commission which would force Trump to testify but shield Nancy Pelosi from testifying is not independent nor is it a fact finding commission.

Why on earth would Nancy Pelosi have to testify in an independent investigation?

To explain her reasoning for declining multiple requests by the capital police for additional security, for starters.

03-lmfao Yeah, that would be a good place to begin. It would likely branch out quite a bit from there.
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(08-17-2021 10:07 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 09:18 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(08-17-2021 09:14 AM)Danforth Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:38 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(08-16-2021 02:36 PM)Danforth Wrote:  No. The could have chosen an independent investigation but they refused.

Liar, Pelosi refused the GOP picks.

Dude you keep telling me not to be a troll and debate you but you don't even know simple facts.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/28/100052489...pitol-riot

"Bipartisan legislation to establish an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has failed in the Senate, as Republicans staged their first filibuster since President Biden took office to block the plan."

Any commission which would force Trump to testify but shield Nancy Pelosi from testifying is not independent nor is it a fact finding commission.

Why on earth would Nancy Pelosi have to testify in an independent investigation?

You want to know the truth or not?
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