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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
Phizer just came out wanting people to get a 3rd shot.
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07-28-2021 10:17 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-28-2021 08:36 AM)VA49er Wrote: (07-28-2021 07:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-27-2021 07:23 PM)b2b Wrote: (07-27-2021 12:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Yup. Because they're too many complete idiots in this country that listened and continue to listen to an orange buffoon and have made a pandemic a political issue by refusing a life saving vaccine.
Yeah these are some serious Trump strongholds.
NY = 56% fully vaxed
CA = 52%
Yes, ALL states need to be higher...but you're not providing proper context for your numbers. For NY, the current figure of 56.6% is all residents. When you take out the under 18 residents, that number bumps up to 68.1%. Additionally, residents who have at least one dose is currently at 62.4%/74.7%.
https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/cov...ne-tracker
And for California...
Quote:In California, 64.2% of the population has received at least one dose, which ranks 15th out of all states and territories. Nationwide, 342,607,540 doses have been administered, with 56.9% of Americans receiving a first dose
https://www.latimes.com/projects/califor...tribution/
Are those CDC numbers? If so, ALL the data coming out of the CDC/MSM includes the TOTAL population, including kids that can't take the vaccine. The CDC has been doing that since the beginning and I have no idea why. It severely underscores the actual number of those vaccinated. Only reason I can think of is that it if the denominator is larger it makes the percentage look worse, which maybe they hope will spur more vaccinations.
Not everything is a governmental conspiracy.
Has nothing to do with a conspiracy. It's simple math. What is the reason the CDC includes people that can't get the vaccine in the denominator for the overall vaccination percentages? It really is a simple question. Not expecting you to answer, just a question in general.
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07-28-2021 10:18 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:17 AM)fsquid Wrote: Phizer just came out wanting people to get a 3rd shot.
the subsidized 4th >>> nth should be available until our species is eradicated…
@sicializedmethodolatry <sic>
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07-28-2021 10:24 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:17 AM)fsquid Wrote: Phizer just came out wanting people to get a 3rd shot.
How convenient of them, at nearly the same time that they announce stronger than expected earnings in q2. They'll later suggest regular boosters indefinitely.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-pf...12772.html
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07-28-2021 10:26 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:18 AM)VA49er Wrote: (07-28-2021 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-28-2021 08:36 AM)VA49er Wrote: (07-28-2021 07:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-27-2021 07:23 PM)b2b Wrote: Yeah these are some serious Trump strongholds.
NY = 56% fully vaxed
CA = 52%
Yes, ALL states need to be higher...but you're not providing proper context for your numbers. For NY, the current figure of 56.6% is all residents. When you take out the under 18 residents, that number bumps up to 68.1%. Additionally, residents who have at least one dose is currently at 62.4%/74.7%.
https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/cov...ne-tracker
And for California...
Quote:In California, 64.2% of the population has received at least one dose, which ranks 15th out of all states and territories. Nationwide, 342,607,540 doses have been administered, with 56.9% of Americans receiving a first dose
https://www.latimes.com/projects/califor...tribution/
Are those CDC numbers? If so, ALL the data coming out of the CDC/MSM includes the TOTAL population, including kids that can't take the vaccine. The CDC has been doing that since the beginning and I have no idea why. It severely underscores the actual number of those vaccinated. Only reason I can think of is that it if the denominator is larger it makes the percentage look worse, which maybe they hope will spur more vaccinations.
Not everything is a governmental conspiracy.
Has nothing to do with a conspiracy. It's simple math. What is the reason the CDC includes people that can't get the vaccine in the denominator for the overall vaccination percentages? It really is a simple question. Not expecting you to answer, just a question in general.
Couple things. The numbers I cited and linked came from state information, so not really sure it's the CDC stats. Additionally, the New York figures provided BOTH stats for under and over 18 residents.
And I highlighted your comment that I was referring to regarding a conspiracy.
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07-28-2021 10:30 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:08 AM)No2rdame Wrote: (07-27-2021 05:44 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Big pharma says "yes please"
And this is one of my reasons I will not willingly be given the jab. The CDC has repeatedly flip flopped, manipulated data, and has politicized the matter. When Big Pharma and the CDC can both say that a rushed drug is completely safe and effective, yet the FDA has not given full approval and laws prevent citizens from suing manufacturers, something isn't right.
We don't know the long-term effects. Remember, the FDA did extensive testing and approval on several drugs only to find out much later that they were not as safe as advertised. Prilosec, Valsartan, and Zantac are but 3 of the many where this has occurred.
But goofy Tommie said Trump politicized it first
Guess he forgot all about Nan’s chirping on Chinatown and others.
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07-28-2021 10:34 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:17 AM)fsquid Wrote: Phizer just came out wanting people to get a 3rd shot.
Of course they did.
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07-28-2021 10:40 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
I got Phizer vaccine. They told me 2 was all that was needed.
F that.
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2021 10:42 AM by Bronco'14.)
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:17 AM)fsquid Wrote: Phizer just came out wanting people to get a 3rd shot.
Sent that to my wife. The second dose of Pfizer put her in the hospital for a couple of days. She simply replied "f that noise"
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07-28-2021 10:45 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
I live in Blue Michigan. No one's been wearing a mask since the Election.
Also, mI was talking to someone in Australia & they're in complete lockdown there still.....That's what we'd be here if we were 'like the rest of the world.'
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2021 10:47 AM by Bronco'14.)
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07-28-2021 10:46 AM |
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No2rdame
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:46 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: I live in Blue Michigan. No one's been wearing a mask since the Election.
Also, mI was talking to someone in Australia & they're in complete lockdown there still.....That's what we'd be here if we were 'like the rest of the world.'
That's what Pedo Joe and his Ho's administration want. It's easier to comply if we're in full lockdown and living in absolute fear.
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07-28-2021 10:54 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:42 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: I got Phizer vaccine. They told me 2 was all that was needed.
F that.
Lol. Getting the "vaccine"
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07-28-2021 10:55 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely.
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07-28-2021 10:56 AM |
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No2rdame
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:55 AM)b2b Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:42 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: I got Phizer vaccine. They told me 2 was all that was needed.
F that.
Lol. Getting the "vaccine"
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The new wave is forcing you to get it if you want to keep your job. I'm pissed because my employer told us they're going to be doing that, but haven't announced when yet. The issue is, how do you take decades of experience, knowledge, education and specialized training and simply apply it to a new career, particularly when the next employer may do the same?
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07-28-2021 10:58 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:18 AM)VA49er Wrote: (07-28-2021 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (07-28-2021 08:36 AM)VA49er Wrote: (07-28-2021 07:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Yes, ALL states need to be higher...but you're not providing proper context for your numbers. For NY, the current figure of 56.6% is all residents. When you take out the under 18 residents, that number bumps up to 68.1%. Additionally, residents who have at least one dose is currently at 62.4%/74.7%.
https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/cov...ne-tracker
And for California...
https://www.latimes.com/projects/califor...tribution/
Are those CDC numbers? If so, ALL the data coming out of the CDC/MSM includes the TOTAL population, including kids that can't take the vaccine. The CDC has been doing that since the beginning and I have no idea why. It severely underscores the actual number of those vaccinated. Only reason I can think of is that it if the denominator is larger it makes the percentage look worse, which maybe they hope will spur more vaccinations.
Not everything is a governmental conspiracy.
Has nothing to do with a conspiracy. It's simple math. What is the reason the CDC includes people that can't get the vaccine in the denominator for the overall vaccination percentages? It really is a simple question. Not expecting you to answer, just a question in general.
Couple things. The numbers I cited and linked came from state information, so not really sure it's the CDC stats. Additionally, the New York figures provided BOTH stats for under and over 18 residents.
And I highlighted your comment that I was referring to regarding a conspiracy.
Thanks for the info. As for the bold part,there is no doubt there's a push to get more people vaccinated by any means, so although the CDC may have its reasons for how it represents the data, it's obvious the method they chose helps the MSM push its message. Was questioning the data as the CDC data doesn't match what local authorities report and the denominator is the reason why. Just further confuses people and leads then to not trust the data.
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2021 11:03 AM by VA49er.)
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07-28-2021 11:03 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:58 AM)No2rdame Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:55 AM)b2b Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:42 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: I got Phizer vaccine. They told me 2 was all that was needed.
F that.
Lol. Getting the "vaccine"
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The new wave is forcing you to get it if you want to keep your job. I'm pissed because my employer told us they're going to be doing that, but haven't announced when yet. The issue is, how do you take decades of experience, knowledge, education and specialized training and simply apply it to a new career, particularly when the next employer may do the same?
Are they asking to see your "vaccine" card before letting you in? Do they plan on firing you if you don't? Not sure how that would hold up legally. I'd go work for myself first.
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(This post was last modified: 07-28-2021 11:07 AM by b2b.)
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07-28-2021 11:06 AM |
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Bronco'14
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 11:06 AM)b2b Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:58 AM)No2rdame Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:55 AM)b2b Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:42 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: I got Phizer vaccine. They told me 2 was all that was needed.
F that.
Lol. Getting the "vaccine"
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The new wave is forcing you to get it if you want to keep your job. I'm pissed because my employer told us they're going to be doing that, but haven't announced when yet. The issue is, how do you take decades of experience, knowledge, education and specialized training and simply apply it to a new career, particularly when the next employer may do the same?
Are they asking to see your "vaccine" card before letting you in? Do they plan on firing you if you don't?
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I had lot of family pressure to get vaccine, plus my employer requiring at least the first 2 doses, otherwise I wouldn't have. I ain't getting another dose tho.
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07-28-2021 11:08 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 10:58 AM)No2rdame Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:55 AM)b2b Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:42 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: I got Phizer vaccine. They told me 2 was all that was needed.
F that.
Lol. Getting the "vaccine"
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The new wave is forcing you to get it if you want to keep your job. I'm pissed because my employer told us they're going to be doing that, but haven't announced when yet. The issue is, how do you take decades of experience, knowledge, education and specialized training and simply apply it to a new career, particularly when the next employer may do the same?
Glad I work for someone that won’t require it. Nobody in my office has been vax yet. We’ve never worn masks at the office, never worked from home. If folks feel safe getting a shot, get it and go on about your biz. Someone will have to come hold me down and inject me.
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07-28-2021 11:09 AM |
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RE: CDC- Even if you are vaccinated wear a mask
(07-28-2021 11:06 AM)b2b Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:58 AM)No2rdame Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:55 AM)b2b Wrote: (07-28-2021 10:42 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: I got Phizer vaccine. They told me 2 was all that was needed.
F that.
Lol. Getting the "vaccine"
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The new wave is forcing you to get it if you want to keep your job. I'm pissed because my employer told us they're going to be doing that, but haven't announced when yet. The issue is, how do you take decades of experience, knowledge, education and specialized training and simply apply it to a new career, particularly when the next employer may do the same?
Are they asking to see your "vaccine" card before letting you in? Do they plan on firing you if you don't? Not sure how that would hold up legally. I'd go work for myself first.
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that’s XACLY! what nuts zongo did ~15 yrs ago…wish I’d have done it sooner…my daughter understands that advice to perfection…
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