(07-13-2021 07:07 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:08 AM)dawgonit Wrote:  

(07-04-2021 04:49 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I believe that there are far too many schools playing at the FBS level.

Why? What problem is there right now with the number of schools?

None.

It’s the musings of people who couldn’t get into an exclusive club or exclusive college. They want ride the fandom coattails of exclusive by buying a hat.

Maybe in some cases. In my case, it's a belief that there are too many schools - meaning the elites who run them - chasing a "big time football" dream for too many years with precious little to show for it, and at the cost of $25m+ a year in subsidies from the 'academic side' to make up for the massive yearly operating losses. And no, I'm not excluding my school from that.

(07-05-2021 12:06 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  I think something else is eventually going to thin out of the Division 1 herd, and it won't be just in football either. Basketball will be thinned out as well, IMHO. What I think will eventually thin out the herd is something that JRSEC has been talking about for awhile: NIL and pay for play. I can see both of those things forcing a lot of the MAC, Sunbelt, C-USA, Ivy, Patriot, and the Pioneer/A-Sun, WCC, NEC, SoCon, etc.

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Naah. They'll just do what they do now: show up, take the L, cash the check.

That's not going to change just because under-the-tabke booster cash is replaced by sweetheart NIL deals.

(07-04-2021 04:49 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I believe that there are far too many schools playing at the FBS level. In my opinion, a good way to determine who should be in the top flight is who can get all of their home games (most of which being on weekends) on national television (thereby proving a demand for the product).

I believe 91 schools fit the bill either as an Independent or thought their conference. They are the following:

B1G
SEC
Big 12
Pac 12
ACC
AAC
MW
Notre Dame
BYU
UConn
Army

These in my opinion are the schools that should be playing at the top level.

I would take the remaining schools and conferences and join them with the top four FCS conferences to form Division 1-AA and the remaining FCS conferences would form a new 1-AAA.

Contracts got to conferences, not schools and being a crappy team in a solid conference does not mean you have independent value. Also, eyeballs matter. Playing on a weekend on a "national" network that nobody watches is not something to brag about. In the streaming age, everything is national. Any attempt to elevate the MWC, AAC or these schools to the "P5" level is self serving at best. There is a HUGE gap between the lowest P5 and any team or conference listed here except ND.

For that matter, lots of schools within those P5 conferences don't have any more brand value than the ones listed and the rest of the "G5" without their conference affiliation.

(07-13-2021 02:08 AM)dawgonit Wrote:  

(07-04-2021 04:49 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I believe that there are far too many schools playing at the FBS level.

Why? What problem is there right now with the number of schools?

No problem whatsoever. There's room for more actually. The slice of pie for ALL the members keeps getting bigger and the exposure greater. The gap between FBS and FCS gets wider and wider.

I recall ten years ago still listening to my team on radio out of necessity. I watch every single game now from my home or phone.

Nobody but keyboard jockeys has any interest in killing the golden goose that gets fatter as teams join. We went from two team picked by a poll to the BCS to a four team playoff to a 12 team playoff where every conference has a clear path to the postseason and there are more bowls than ever.

There's no sign of contraction and that's for good reason.

(07-13-2021 07:53 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 07:07 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:08 AM)dawgonit Wrote:  

(07-04-2021 04:49 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I believe that there are far too many schools playing at the FBS level.

Why? What problem is there right now with the number of schools?

None.

It’s the musings of people who couldn’t get into an exclusive club or exclusive college. They want ride the fandom coattails of exclusive by buying a hat.

Maybe in some cases. In my case, it's a belief that there are too many schools - meaning the elites who run them - chasing a "big time football" dream for too many years with precious little to show for it, and at the cost of $25m+ a year in subsidies from the 'academic side' to make up for the massive yearly operating losses. And no, I'm not excluding my school from that.

You've been banging that drum since at least 2018 Quo, if not earlier.

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(07-13-2021 08:49 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 07:53 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 07:07 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 02:08 AM)dawgonit Wrote:  

(07-04-2021 04:49 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  I believe that there are far too many schools playing at the FBS level.

Why? What problem is there right now with the number of schools?

None.

It’s the musings of people who couldn’t get into an exclusive club or exclusive college. They want ride the fandom coattails of exclusive by buying a hat.

Maybe in some cases. In my case, it's a belief that there are too many schools - meaning the elites who run them - chasing a "big time football" dream for too many years with precious little to show for it, and at the cost of $25m+ a year in subsidies from the 'academic side' to make up for the massive yearly operating losses. And no, I'm not excluding my school from that.

You've been banging that drum since at least 2018 Quo, if not earlier.

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Yeah, and I also know that my opinion about it and a dollar will buy a candy bar. But I like getting it off my chest, LOL.