(06-04-2021 09:50 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I don't think the answer is to stop building jails but it is unfortunate that in the greatest country in the world, we have the most criminals.

Why is that Boy Wonder?

(06-03-2021 07:03 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(06-03-2021 06:33 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  If you guys dont think we have a serious problem with incarceration rates, you havent been paying attention.

Jail is a business and businesses need customers to turn profit. People are in jail and go to jail for reasons that should not put someone in jail.

So your way of thinking is people are walking by prisons and are being inspired to commit crimes. So therefore we should get rid of prisons?

This is why I advocate for if people steal, they lose a digit and not the restorative justice crap where you have to attend therapy and write an apology letter.

It’s still therapy. It’s called Negative Reinforcement. Pavlov’s therapy is known to work wonders. Ever try to smoke a cigarette and get blasted by an electrical jolt? You will quit.

(06-04-2021 09:14 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 06:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard awhile back that if we didn't test for Covid, we wouldn't have that many cases of it. What genius uttered that...I can't recall.

that's not what was said.. at least be honest with your snarkiness

Sorry...yeah...it was.

Quote:“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They [the media] don’t want to write that.”

(06-04-2021 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 09:14 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 06:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard awhile back that if we didn't test for Covid, we wouldn't have that many cases of it. What genius uttered that...I can't recall.

that's not what was said.. at least be honest with your snarkiness

Sorry...yeah...it was.

Quote:“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They [the media] don’t want to write that.”

That could also be read to say the reason other countries cases are lower is because they don't test as much as we do. If they tested more their numbers would be higher and if we didn't test as much our numbers would be lower.

I know that doesn't fit your narrative but I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

(06-04-2021 10:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 09:14 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 06:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard awhile back that if we didn't test for Covid, we wouldn't have that many cases of it. What genius uttered that...I can't recall.

that's not what was said.. at least be honest with your snarkiness

Sorry...yeah...it was.

Quote:“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They [the media] don’t want to write that.”

That could also be read to say the reason other countries cases are lower is because they don't test as much as we do. If they tested more their numbers would be higher and if we didn't test as much our numbers would be lower.

I know that doesn't fit your narrative but I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

Ummm...dude...if a tree falls in the forest, and you don't hear it or see it, IT STILL FELL!

(06-04-2021 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 09:14 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 06:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard awhile back that if we didn't test for Covid, we wouldn't have that many cases of it. What genius uttered that...I can't recall.

that's not what was said.. at least be honest with your snarkiness

Sorry...yeah...it was.

Quote:“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They [the media] don’t want to write that.”

That could also be read to say the reason other countries cases are lower is because they don't test as much as we do. If they tested more their numbers would be higher and if we didn't test as much our numbers would be lower.

I know that doesn't fit your narrative but I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

Ummm...dude...if a tree falls in the forest, and you don't hear it or see it, IT STILL FELL!

That's about the kind of response I'd expect.

(06-04-2021 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 09:14 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 06:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard awhile back that if we didn't test for Covid, we wouldn't have that many cases of it. What genius uttered that...I can't recall.

that's not what was said.. at least be honest with your snarkiness

Sorry...yeah...it was.

Quote:“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They [the media] don’t want to write that.”

If Tom wasn't such a moron - he would be smart............

(06-03-2021 05:56 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(06-03-2021 05:41 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  We could also reduce violent crime by legalizing violent crime.


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We could just shoot all violent criminals. That would help the stats.

But then we would have a cemetery problem - i suppose if you also stop burying people we could control that one too?

"Buzzards gotta eat, worms too" - Josey Wales

(06-04-2021 10:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 09:14 AM)Oman Wrote:  that's not what was said.. at least be honest with your snarkiness

Sorry...yeah...it was.

Quote:“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They [the media] don’t want to write that.”

That could also be read to say the reason other countries cases are lower is because they don't test as much as we do. If they tested more their numbers would be higher and if we didn't test as much our numbers would be lower.

I know that doesn't fit your narrative but I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

Ummm...dude...if a tree falls in the forest, and you don't hear it or see it, IT STILL FELL!

That's about the kind of response I'd expect.

Is it? You still don't seem to understand. You can have Covid even if you haven't been tested for it. Testing less doesn't make Covid go away.

(06-04-2021 10:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sorry...yeah...it was.

That could also be read to say the reason other countries cases are lower is because they don't test as much as we do. If they tested more their numbers would be higher and if we didn't test as much our numbers would be lower.

I know that doesn't fit your narrative but I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

Ummm...dude...if a tree falls in the forest, and you don't hear it or see it, IT STILL FELL!

That's about the kind of response I'd expect.

Is it? You still don't seem to understand. You can have Covid even if you haven't been tested for it. Testing less doesn't make Covid go away.

He wasn't saying the cases didn't exist. He was saying the numbers being reported in other countries would be higher if they tested more just as our number of reported cases would be lower if we tested less. As we all know by now reported cases are not the same as actual cases.

(06-04-2021 10:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  That could also be read to say the reason other countries cases are lower is because they don't test as much as we do. If they tested more their numbers would be higher and if we didn't test as much our numbers would be lower.

I know that doesn't fit your narrative but I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

Ummm...dude...if a tree falls in the forest, and you don't hear it or see it, IT STILL FELL!

That's about the kind of response I'd expect.

Is it? You still don't seem to understand. You can have Covid even if you haven't been tested for it. Testing less doesn't make Covid go away.

He wasn't saying the cases didn't exist. He was saying the numbers being reported in other countries would be higher if they tested more just as our number of reported cases would be lower if we tested less. As we all know by now reported cases are not the same as actual cases.

Horrible spin, dude.

(06-04-2021 11:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Ummm...dude...if a tree falls in the forest, and you don't hear it or see it, IT STILL FELL!

That's about the kind of response I'd expect.

Is it? You still don't seem to understand. You can have Covid even if you haven't been tested for it. Testing less doesn't make Covid go away.

He wasn't saying the cases didn't exist. He was saying the numbers being reported in other countries would be higher if they tested more just as our number of reported cases would be lower if we tested less. As we all know by now reported cases are not the same as actual cases.

Horrible spin, dude.

I'm sure to you it is as it doesn't fit the narrative you constantly try to put forth. There are a lot of things Trump said that I didn't agree with but I can see what he was trying to say in this case.

(06-04-2021 10:00 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 09:50 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I don't think the answer is to stop building jails but it is unfortunate that in the greatest country in the world, we have the most criminals.

Why is that Boy Wonder?

Let me answer that for you: If you were ever in a foreign prison you would know that answer. The conditions are horrendous and don't even come close to the conditions that American prisoners enjoy. I've had the unfortunate circumstance where I was in a Juarez jail and let me tell you it was truly a third world experience and that was for only one day, thank God. Libturds here in this country would be crying bloody hell if our prisoners had to deal with what those Mexican prisoners have to. This is Mexico mind you, so I can bet you that it is 100 times worst in other countries. That's why we have so many prisoners they think they, prisons, are a joke and for many they are even bailed out by blm and antifa supporters so that makes it much better for them. When you have dipSchiffs like John Legend and his wife and their cronies putting up bail money for criminals then you should know that criminals think incarceration is a joke.

back to the theme….

(06-03-2021 05:17 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

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They could also stop committing crimes. That would also stop the need for more jails.

In all seriousness who is dumber? AOC? Or the brilliant people of NY who elected her?

(06-04-2021 10:20 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 09:14 AM)Oman Wrote:  

(06-04-2021 06:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard awhile back that if we didn't test for Covid, we wouldn't have that many cases of it. What genius uttered that...I can't recall.

that's not what was said.. at least be honest with your snarkiness

Sorry...yeah...it was.

Quote:“Don’t forget, we have more cases than anybody in the world. But why? Because we do more testing. When you test, you have a case. When you test, you find something is wrong with people. If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases. They [the media] don’t want to write that.”

That could also be read to say the reason other countries cases are lower is because they don't test as much as we do. If they tested more their numbers would be higher and if we didn't test as much our numbers would be lower.

I know that doesn't fit your narrative but I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

Of course it was.

RedTom being the intellectually dishonest, talking point spewing party stooge once again.

Shocking

Liberal mindset: Stop enforcing laws in order to reduce crime.

Exactly the mindset our Mayor used here in Louisville, last year when he told the police to stand down during BLM and Antifa rioting.

We simply don’t have enough jail space to lock everyone up.

(06-03-2021 07:03 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(06-03-2021 06:33 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  If you guys dont think we have a serious problem with incarceration rates, you havent been paying attention.

Jail is a business and businesses need customers to turn profit. People are in jail and go to jail for reasons that should not put someone in jail.

So your way of thinking is people are walking by prisons and are being inspired to commit crimes. So therefore we should get rid of prisons?

This is why I advocate for if people steal, they lose a digit and not the restorative justice crap where you have to attend therapy and write an apology letter.

In no way did what you quote say anything of what your reply insinuates.

AOC is an idiot.

What I said is.. we have an issue with incarceration. There are people in jail over crap that jail is not going to help or reform.

(06-03-2021 07:09 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-03-2021 07:03 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-03-2021 06:33 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  If you guys dont think we have a serious problem with incarceration rates, you havent been paying attention.

Jail is a business and businesses need customers to turn profit. People are in jail and go to jail for reasons that should not put someone in jail.

This

of course if those people were not in there there would be more than enough room for Violent offenders. Without building more.

President Ronald Reagan showed the country just how much money can be made off of "get tough on crime". The funny thing is most people would agree with that. What they dont understand, still dont, anything the government is behind....

is like a snowball rolling downhill

Pretty soon its not just the drug pushers or the Violent offenders. You need more and more people to fill those beds. A addict that sells a few of anything to their friends should not be getting 5 to 8 years in federal prison.

They are and its because of one word...CONSPIRACY

Once the laws were put in for conspiracy federal inmates skyrocketed and the numbers didnt start to drop till President Trump. Just about every country jail in America has turned into a Federal hold and houses state prisoners. Its a three to five month wait (or it was)from the time you are sentence till a bed opened at a federal prison.

I haven't looked it up but I would bet anything 75% were first charged with CONSPIRACY

nonviolent incarceration started with Nixon....Reagan re-upped....bush went all-in on profiteering tard-ism...

yep, that pretty much sums it up for the droogies...

our judicial system is a fk’n joke festival...

Add Clinton to that list. He was just as bad as all of them. He even ran on a "tough on crime" platform. That time period was full out "war on drugs" even though they were the people shipping drugs into our country to sell for guns.