(03-13-2021 09:55 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Women’s college basketball is not a major sport.

It is when you draw 3500 a game...

This is one thing I’ve never been able to figure out. How are we able to draw huge women’s crowds even when the team isn’t any good? If men’s had a comparable season to some of those women’s teams of late, there would be nobody there. Don’t mean this in a negative way, just can’t figure it out.

The March Sadness continues for the Toledo Rockets...

And others, March gladness.

(03-13-2021 09:55 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Women’s college basketball is not a major sport.

It is when you draw 3500 a game...

No. It’s a non-revenue sport, no matter how well you support it.

There are only two “major” sports in college athletics.

(03-13-2021 09:56 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Parallels I see in our programs is a less ability to adjust, difficulties at end of games relative to their top competition. Regardless where any program's difficulties lie, a good program IMO is not relying on the HCs to resolve those in an independent manner nor is it accepting of HCs that insist on operating in that matter. Ideally, it is the ADs office that gathers the research, does the analytics, looks for the patterns not just in their own program's games but those of their competitors game call and athletes. They are the ones accessing the stat departments, the engineering, all the facilities of a university and using their budget to gather knowledge and disseminate it for evaluation. Major universities use their colleges effectively in their athletics as a research incubator into the human body and mind under individual and social, mental and physical duress. They study the extreme's of human capability or they're are not worth the University's time and budget.

The buck stops at not just the AD's office but an administration that permits under-admins to mark territory instead of create and use synergies and efficiencies throughout University operation. A continual path of high Admin out of academics will rarely be able to accomplish the goals in a tightening and competitive educational market where their toughest competition is a computer network and the desire to get a piece of paper that says "college degree" regardless where it is from or how it is earned.

UToledo needs to reevaluate and remember purpose and go all in to that end.

(03-13-2021 09:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Women’s college basketball is not a major sport.

We appreciate a cheap attempt to bore others due to lack of things in your own life. We hope you find them and the joy they can bring you and yours, before it's too late for you.

Thank you. It seems you have things squared away, which is good.

(03-13-2021 05:50 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:55 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Women’s college basketball is not a major sport.

It is when you draw 3500 a game...

No. It’s a non-revenue sport, no matter how well you support it.

There are only two “major” sports in college athletics.

You understand the definition of “revenue”? Here’s one:
income, especially when of a company or organization and of a substantial nature.

I know EMU has no revenue sports but UT has 3. Other universities, like BG, four. I pay the same for season tickets to men’s and women’s basketball. Since only OU and Toledo men outdraw Toledo women you’ll get nothing more than a good chuckle out of those you try to convince.

(03-13-2021 09:55 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Women’s college basketball is not a major sport.

It is when you draw 3500 a game...

I haven’t been to a ladies game since our championship. We had good attendance that year for sure. I have no excuse for not going except I do not like basketball, period. But I took my granddaughter to some games. And that I enjoyed.

(03-12-2021 09:54 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Can we either get mad that regular season titles mean nothing, or get mad that we underachieve jn Cleveland? Because we have had at least 4 one or two seeds during COY Tods tenure with only two title game dice rolls. You cant keep losing before the finals... is it toughness, depth, size, luck? what?

My opinion is that Coach K isn't much of a game strategist. thus our poor record in the conference tourney. Example: against Ball State, Coleman gets 3 fouls early, sits, and them plays the whole second half without fouling. Huh? Drive the ball against him for fouls or easy buckets.... didn't happen.

(03-13-2021 06:40 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 05:50 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:55 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Women’s college basketball is not a major sport.

It is when you draw 3500 a game...

No. It’s a non-revenue sport, no matter how well you support it.

There are only two “major” sports in college athletics.

You understand the definition of “revenue”? Here’s one:
income, especially when of a company or organization and of a substantial nature.

I know EMU has no revenue sports but UT has 3. Other universities, like BG, four. I pay the same for season tickets to men’s and women’s basketball. Since only OU and Toledo men outdraw Toledo women you’ll get nothing more than a good chuckle out of those you try to convince.

No MAC school breaks even in any sport. The only reason they survive is students paying for athletics with their "fees".

(03-12-2021 09:54 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Can we either get mad that regular season titles mean nothing, or get mad that we underachieve jn Cleveland? Because we have had at least 4 one or two seeds during COY Tods tenure with only two title game dice rolls. You cant keep losing before the finals... is it toughness, depth, size, luck? what?

I believe it's a combination of all the above .... including luck. How many folks remember Joplin's exits in Cleveland w/some really strong teams ... timeout called w/winning 3-ball in the air. Undersized guard playing hero and stumbles while Stempin waits for a pass that never comes ... short-handed team's best player - a senior - picks up silly fourth foul before halftime on a desperation mid-court heave ...

Even Cross had an Akron team beat in regulation but couldn't close the deal for the upset. Akron wins in OT and goes on to win the tournament.

Tod is not alone ....

(03-14-2021 11:41 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 06:40 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 05:50 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:55 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(03-13-2021 09:36 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Women’s college basketball is not a major sport.

It is when you draw 3500 a game...

No. It’s a non-revenue sport, no matter how well you support it.

There are only two “major” sports in college athletics.

You understand the definition of “revenue”? Here’s one:
income, especially when of a company or organization and of a substantial nature.

I know EMU has no revenue sports but UT has 3. Other universities, like BG, four. I pay the same for season tickets to men’s and women’s basketball. Since only OU and Toledo men outdraw Toledo women you’ll get nothing more than a good chuckle out of those you try to convince.

No MAC school breaks even in any sport. The only reason they survive is students paying for athletics with their "fees".

Plus funding transfers directly from the university operating budget to the tune of millions

I think pressure of being a top seed in a mid-major league is something that cannot be overlooked. Only 11 of 32 #1 seeds in the conference tournaments went on to win their tournaments automatic bid.

Watching Toledo play against OU - one team played loose and one team played trying not to lose. Credit where credit is due - OU came out with a plan to play fast and loose and they beat 3 really good teams in Cleveland. If they come out like that against Virginia - who will be coming off of a long rest, they could have the advantage with energy and playing the aggressor and take them to the wire and maybe knock them off.

I must add... Toledo had played that way most of the season when they came out and built big leads and always had their opponent on the ropes.

I think they will play this way in the NIT and hopefully make a little run. I know it is not the same as making the dance, but getting deep into / winning the NIT would be great momentum to take into the off-season with the transfer portal being a wild-west of great talent looking for a new home with a team that is close to breaking through...

Maybe Marreon stays


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(03-16-2021 01:25 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Maybe Marreon stays


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Could become all-time leading everything just about.

Marreon could be a two time MAC Player of the Year. Has any Rocket ever done that?

(03-16-2021 02:04 PM)Rocket75 Wrote:  Marreon could be a two time MAC Player of the Year. Has any Rocket ever done that?

Kozelko at least. 72-73. He was first MAC player to win twice.

If you look at the draw, Richmond is hobbled and limping in... SLU is very overrated by most pundits. And Miss State would have a hard time getting up for us IMO. Id be scared of Memphis and WKU. This team has something to prove so could make a run. Unlike the last time we made it.

(03-16-2021 02:56 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  If you look at the draw, Richmond is hobbled and limping in... SLU is very overrated by most pundits. And Miss State would have a hard time getting up for us IMO. Id be scared of Memphis and WKU. This team has something to prove so could make a run. Unlike the last time we made it.

Remember the last time we played in the NIT at Xavier, Marreon, Willie, and Alderson were all out with injuries, so we only had 6 guys available. They competed with Xavier for awhile, but were just too shorthanded.

(03-16-2021 07:36 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  

(03-16-2021 02:56 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  If you look at the draw, Richmond is hobbled and limping in... SLU is very overrated by most pundits. And Miss State would have a hard time getting up for us IMO. Id be scared of Memphis and WKU. This team has something to prove so could make a run. Unlike the last time we made it.

Remember the last time we played in the NIT at Xavier, Marreon, Willie, and Alderson were all out with injuries, so we only had 6 guys available. They competed with Xavier for awhile, but were just too shorthanded.

Right, and without a chance at advancing far I questioned why we were even playing. I suppose playing at Xavier wasnt expensive.