(03-10-2021 11:07 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 10:30 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Tulsa has a better winning percentage against OU than the bottom-feeder programs mentioned by OP. But tell me more about the Power 5.

Oklahoma is 16-5 vs Tulsa, pretty lopsided, and Tulsa has one win over Oklahoma in the last 75 years. That's not saying much, IMO.

Still a better winning percentage than the Kansas twins and Iowa State.

As I said before, 4 of those 5 TU wins came in the pre-historic days. If TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, like the teams you mention have..... OU would likely be 74-1 against TU.

We’re talking about records that stretch back to WW1 or earlier, so I don’t see how you can choose to exclude some games but not others. If you want to pick a certain date to start from, feel free, but given that the Titanic had just sunk and Archduke Franz Ferdinand was alive the last time Iowa State won a share of a conference title, it doesn’t change much in proving that they (along with KU) are a loser program that can’t compete in a power conference.

(03-10-2021 11:25 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 11:07 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 10:30 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Tulsa has a better winning percentage against OU than the bottom-feeder programs mentioned by OP. But tell me more about the Power 5.

Oklahoma is 16-5 vs Tulsa, pretty lopsided, and Tulsa has one win over Oklahoma in the last 75 years. That's not saying much, IMO.

Still a better winning percentage than the Kansas twins and Iowa State.

As I said before, 4 of those 5 TU wins came in the pre-historic days. If TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, like the teams you mention have..... OU would likely be 74-1 against TU.

We’re talking about records that stretch back to WW1 or earlier, so I don’t see how you can choose to exclude some games but not others. If you want to pick a certain date to start from, feel free, but given that the Titanic had just sunk and Archduke Franz Ferdinand was alive the last time Iowa State won a share of a conference title, it doesn’t change much in proving that they (along with KU) are a loser program that can’t compete in a power conference.

Ok..If you really think games in the early 1900's mean anything, which I don't. TU still has a poor record vs OU. As I said, if TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, as Kansas and Iowa State have, OU would probably have a record of something close to 74-1 against TU.

(03-10-2021 10:44 AM)johnintx Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 06:47 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Forget about their massive advantages over their SWC rivals, here is Texas's record against some other blue-bloods:

Oklahoma .......... 55-46
Nebraska ........... 10-4
LSU ................... 8-7
Ohio State .......... 2-1
Michigan ............. 1-0
Alabama ............. 7-1
Auburn ............... 5-3
Florida ............... 2-0
Georgia ............. 4-1

The only blue-bloods I could find that they have losing records against are Notre Dame (3-9) and USC (2-5).

Texas is a true historical powerhouse.

Another similarity between Texas and Oklahoma: OU also has a losing record against USC (2-6-1) and Notre Dame (2-8).

The only other schools that OU has a losing record against (minimum 5 games played) are Clemson (2-3) and Texas. The losses to Clemson were all in bowl games after the 1988, 2014, and 2015 (CFP) seasons.

According to OU, Texas now leads the series 62-49-5...I'm not sure where the discrepancy comes with the posted records. OU has had their chances. As the higher ranked team, OU has lost to Texas eight times in recent years: four times since 1999 (the Stoops-Riley era), and four more times since 1989 (the end of the Switzer era). If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.

The Texas/OU game is more about who wants it more that year than who is better. Same with the Georgia/Florida game. Part of what makes those neutral site games interesting.

(03-10-2021 01:25 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 11:25 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 11:07 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Oklahoma is 16-5 vs Tulsa, pretty lopsided, and Tulsa has one win over Oklahoma in the last 75 years. That's not saying much, IMO.

Still a better winning percentage than the Kansas twins and Iowa State.

As I said before, 4 of those 5 TU wins came in the pre-historic days. If TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, like the teams you mention have..... OU would likely be 74-1 against TU.

We’re talking about records that stretch back to WW1 or earlier, so I don’t see how you can choose to exclude some games but not others. If you want to pick a certain date to start from, feel free, but given that the Titanic had just sunk and Archduke Franz Ferdinand was alive the last time Iowa State won a share of a conference title, it doesn’t change much in proving that they (along with KU) are a loser program that can’t compete in a power conference.

Ok..If you really think games in the early 1900's mean anything, which I don't. TU still has a poor record vs OU. As I said, if TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, as Kansas and Iowa State have, OU would probably have a record of something close to 74-1 against TU.

What's the difference in a game in 1915 vs a game in 1945 or 1950? The game now is not even recognizable to either of those periods. The OP was about all-time records of opponents, which includes those pre-WW2 games.

And what's embarrassing for those programs is that Tulsa would do about the same as them despite not being in a prestigious conference that had top bowl bids for most of its history and that over the past 25+ years has received a massive money advantage compared to Tulsa just because they were in that conference back in 1915.

(03-10-2021 06:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  The Texas/OU game is more about who wants it more that year than who is better. Same with the Georgia/Florida game. Part of what makes those neutral site games interesting.

Throw out the records when they play. The OU-Texas game is a season unto itself. It doesn't matter if either team is 0-4 when they come in.

(03-10-2021 11:25 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 11:07 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 10:30 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Tulsa has a better winning percentage against OU than the bottom-feeder programs mentioned by OP. But tell me more about the Power 5.

Oklahoma is 16-5 vs Tulsa, pretty lopsided, and Tulsa has one win over Oklahoma in the last 75 years. That's not saying much, IMO.

Still a better winning percentage than the Kansas twins and Iowa State.

As I said before, 4 of those 5 TU wins came in the pre-historic days. If TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, like the teams you mention have..... OU would likely be 74-1 against TU.

We’re talking about records that stretch back to WW1 or earlier, so I don’t see how you can choose to exclude some games but not others. If you want to pick a certain date to start from, feel free, but given that the Titanic had just sunk and Archduke Franz Ferdinand was alive the last time Iowa State won a share of a conference title, it doesn’t change much in proving that they (along with KU) are a loser program that can’t compete in a power conference.

(03-10-2021 06:33 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 01:25 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 11:25 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 11:07 AM)texoma Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 11:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Still a better winning percentage than the Kansas twins and Iowa State.

As I said before, 4 of those 5 TU wins came in the pre-historic days. If TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, like the teams you mention have..... OU would likely be 74-1 against TU.

We’re talking about records that stretch back to WW1 or earlier, so I don’t see how you can choose to exclude some games but not others. If you want to pick a certain date to start from, feel free, but given that the Titanic had just sunk and Archduke Franz Ferdinand was alive the last time Iowa State won a share of a conference title, it doesn’t change much in proving that they (along with KU) are a loser program that can’t compete in a power conference.

Ok..If you really think games in the early 1900's mean anything, which I don't. TU still has a poor record vs OU. As I said, if TU had played OU every year for the last 75 years, as Kansas and Iowa State have, OU would probably have a record of something close to 74-1 against TU.

What's the difference in a game in 1915 vs a game in 1945 or 1950? The game now is not even recognizable to either of those periods. The OP was about all-time records of opponents, which includes those pre-WW2 games.

And what's embarrassing for those programs is that Tulsa would do about the same as them despite not being in a prestigious conference that had top bowl bids for most of its history and that over the past 25+ years has received a massive money advantage compared to Tulsa just because they were in that conference back in 1915.

If you do not think there is a difference in a game played in 1915 vs a game played in 1950, I cannot help you. I read about an OU game played in those pre-historic days that was called off, because an errant punt had gone into a river and the football was lost. There is a difference.