(02-20-2021 09:25 AM)chip90 Wrote:  Biden won, tRUMP lost. Get over it.

yep, chip is now your fearless soylent dung factory CEO..well done, chippy...ranks up there with naming a child, Todd....

(02-19-2021 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 02:35 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 10:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-18-2021 07:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-18-2021 05:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Im not going to hunt around for even MORE links to prove your idiocy wrong. You can google and you know that any search will just find more crap where Democrats oppose any effort to cleanse the rolls of dead and non-resident voters. Ive already proven you wrong. Move along or sell your propaganda to someone more gullible.

Tell him that one of the links talks about the court ordered audit in antrim county and watch him crap his pants.

Tell me again lying troll, how one guy in Michigan single handedly reviewed 68% of votes rejected by a dominion machine and then without supervision filled out replacement ballots...all for Biden apparently even though trump won the county by the same percentage as in 2016...and then rescanned them and then destroyed all the original ballots in violation of state law and nobody reported it or said a word?

AGAIN, I'LL ASK YOU TO PROVIDE THE PROOF, CLOWN!

You're a fraud of the highest order. I called you out time and time again on this, but you still refuse to admit that you just ******* made this up out of whole cloth. Not to mention you ran away from that thread...something you've accuse me of time and time again but have yet to provide a link to one thread where I did.

I don't know what's more sad, your continual lying nonsense...or the other sycophantic posters here who ignore it and keep kissing your lying troll ass.

The ONE COUNTY they were able to audit showed this happening.

Maricopa county has been trying to do it, and the dems keep trying to stop them. Wonder why?

I'm not going to keep hitting you over the head on this. A court ordered an audit. You provided a link to the ruling that said the word "audit" never appeared. I then gave you the page and paragraph where it was located. You then blamed your spellchecker and then crapped your pants and went off on a tangent.

Bull.
****.

(01-26-2021 03:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The forensic audit turned up that 68% of the ballots scanned by that machine were rejected and went to adjudication. Adjudication is a manual process where the original ballots are sent to a single unmonitored workstation where an employee attempts to determine voter intent. That one unmonitored person then corrects the ballot, reprints the ballot corrected, and sends the original ballot to be destroyed.

NONE of the bolded happened in Antrim Co. You simply made it up.

Nobody gives two ***** whether the court order an audit or whether I missed the word auditing in a pdf file. And my initial assertion was that it was not an independent audit, which it wasn't. It was done by the plaintiffs using a discredited company with little to no expertise in elections.

You're a clown.

And the lying troll runs away yet again. Pathetic.

(02-19-2021 08:09 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-18-2021 10:10 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Michigan purges voter rolls of 177,000 names after the election.

Michigan Removed 177,000 Voters from Voter Rolls in January After Certifying Biden Won Michigan by 154,000 Votes in November

Quote:The Michigan secretary of state removed 177,000 inactive voters from the state’s voter rolls after settling a legal challenge.

The stateremoved the names from the voter rolls in late January because the voters no longer live in the state or did not respond to the state’s inquiries about their addresses, according to a Tuesday district court announcement. The state performed the post-election audit during a legal battle with the Honest Elections Project, an election watchdog.

And this is exactly why Democrats oppose cleaning up voter rolls across the country.

How many of them are in the military, family members of military or work outside of the state but still actually lives there? There are exceptions to these people which is called absentee ballots.

Absentee ballot rules have been on the books for quite some time.

In the year and a half leading up to the Nov 20 election rules were changed to allow universal mail-in ballots. Note these rule changes began PRIOR to the covid pandemic. Some groups fought these rule changes also prior to covid explaining that this would lead to massive fraud.

Only after covid appeared did the dems use covid as the excuse for the rule changes.

So Michigan just basically admitted that there were more people registered to vote that shouldn't have been than the margin of "victory" that slow Joe had.

Yeah, that's not fishy at all.

(02-22-2021 07:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 02:35 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 10:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-18-2021 07:53 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Tell him that one of the links talks about the court ordered audit in antrim county and watch him crap his pants.

Tell me again lying troll, how one guy in Michigan single handedly reviewed 68% of votes rejected by a dominion machine and then without supervision filled out replacement ballots...all for Biden apparently even though trump won the county by the same percentage as in 2016...and then rescanned them and then destroyed all the original ballots in violation of state law and nobody reported it or said a word?

AGAIN, I'LL ASK YOU TO PROVIDE THE PROOF, CLOWN!

You're a fraud of the highest order. I called you out time and time again on this, but you still refuse to admit that you just ******* made this up out of whole cloth. Not to mention you ran away from that thread...something you've accuse me of time and time again but have yet to provide a link to one thread where I did.

I don't know what's more sad, your continual lying nonsense...or the other sycophantic posters here who ignore it and keep kissing your lying troll ass.

The ONE COUNTY they were able to audit showed this happening.

Maricopa county has been trying to do it, and the dems keep trying to stop them. Wonder why?

I'm not going to keep hitting you over the head on this. A court ordered an audit. You provided a link to the ruling that said the word "audit" never appeared. I then gave you the page and paragraph where it was located. You then blamed your spellchecker and then crapped your pants and went off on a tangent.

Bull.
****.

(01-26-2021 03:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The forensic audit turned up that 68% of the ballots scanned by that machine were rejected and went to adjudication. Adjudication is a manual process where the original ballots are sent to a single unmonitored workstation where an employee attempts to determine voter intent. That one unmonitored person then corrects the ballot, reprints the ballot corrected, and sends the original ballot to be destroyed.

NONE of the bolded happened in Antrim Co. You simply made it up.

Nobody gives two ***** whether the court order an audit or whether I missed the word auditing in a pdf file. And my initial assertion was that it was not an independent audit, which it wasn't. It was done by the plaintiffs using a discredited company with little to no expertise in elections.

You're a clown.

And the lying troll runs away yet again. Pathetic.

I'm still here, but I have been told to limit you to crapping your pants once per day.
I didnt say that the ballots were destroyed in antrim county. I said because of the antrim county forensic audit, we now know how the states WHICH ORDERS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ORIGINAL BALLOTS pulled this off so that the hand recounts would match.


Rules on the ballots vary by state. We know, due to the ANTRIM COUNTY AUDIT (something you didnt think ever happened) that a very high number of ballots were sent to adjudication.

With that, we now know how some states, who have rules to DESTROY THE ORIGINAL BALLOTS, were able to pull this off.

I didnt say that ANTRIM COUNTY destroyed ballots. I said BECAUSE OF THE ANTRIM COUNTY FORENSIC AUDIT, WE NOW KNOW HOW OTHER STATES DID THIS.

(02-22-2021 10:22 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  So Michigan just basically admitted that there were more people registered to vote that shouldn't have been than the margin of "victory" that slow Joe had.

Yeah, that's not fishy at all.

So?

Probably true in a lot of states that were close. Georgia and Arizona for sure and probably Wisconsin and Pennsylvania too. Regardless, you can feel something happened all you want, but you have to prove it. I'm sure Hillary probably thinks the election was stolen from her in 2016 and it was much closer. Doesn't mean it was.

(02-22-2021 10:37 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-22-2021 07:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 03:04 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 02:35 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 10:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Tell me again lying troll, how one guy in Michigan single handedly reviewed 68% of votes rejected by a dominion machine and then without supervision filled out replacement ballots...all for Biden apparently even though trump won the county by the same percentage as in 2016...and then rescanned them and then destroyed all the original ballots in violation of state law and nobody reported it or said a word?

AGAIN, I'LL ASK YOU TO PROVIDE THE PROOF, CLOWN!

You're a fraud of the highest order. I called you out time and time again on this, but you still refuse to admit that you just ******* made this up out of whole cloth. Not to mention you ran away from that thread...something you've accuse me of time and time again but have yet to provide a link to one thread where I did.

I don't know what's more sad, your continual lying nonsense...or the other sycophantic posters here who ignore it and keep kissing your lying troll ass.

The ONE COUNTY they were able to audit showed this happening.

Maricopa county has been trying to do it, and the dems keep trying to stop them. Wonder why?

I'm not going to keep hitting you over the head on this. A court ordered an audit. You provided a link to the ruling that said the word "audit" never appeared. I then gave you the page and paragraph where it was located. You then blamed your spellchecker and then crapped your pants and went off on a tangent.

Bull.
****.

(01-26-2021 03:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The forensic audit turned up that 68% of the ballots scanned by that machine were rejected and went to adjudication. Adjudication is a manual process where the original ballots are sent to a single unmonitored workstation where an employee attempts to determine voter intent. That one unmonitored person then corrects the ballot, reprints the ballot corrected, and sends the original ballot to be destroyed.

NONE of the bolded happened in Antrim Co. You simply made it up.

Nobody gives two ***** whether the court order an audit or whether I missed the word auditing in a pdf file. And my initial assertion was that it was not an independent audit, which it wasn't. It was done by the plaintiffs using a discredited company with little to no expertise in elections.

You're a clown.

And the lying troll runs away yet again. Pathetic.

I'm still here, but I have been told to limit you to crapping your pants once per day.
I didnt say that the ballots were destroyed in antrim county. I said because of the antrim county forensic audit, we now know how the states WHICH ORDERS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ORIGINAL BALLOTS pulled this off so that the hand recounts would match.


Rules on the ballots vary by state. We know, due to the ANTRIM COUNTY AUDIT (something you didnt think ever happened) that a very high number of ballots were sent to adjudication.

With that, we now know how some states, who have rules to DESTROY THE ORIGINAL BALLOTS, were able to pull this off.

I didnt say that ANTRIM COUNTY destroyed ballots. I said BECAUSE OF THE ANTRIM COUNTY FORENSIC AUDIT, WE NOW KNOW HOW OTHER STATES DID THIS.

Dude, just stop.

Your exact words...

(01-26-2021 03:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The forensic audit turned up that 68% of the ballots scanned by that machine were rejected and went to adjudication. Adjudication is a manual process where the original ballots are sent to a single unmonitored workstation where an employee attempts to determine voter intent. That one unmonitored person then corrects the ballot, reprints the ballot corrected, and sends the original ballot to be destroyed.

No ballots were sent to be destroyed. That's against state law. You have no proof any ballots were destroyed. Not to mention everything in that quote of yours is false. If it were true, you would have provided the factual basis for it by now...it's been months are you are still promoting the big lie.

You also have NO proof that a high number of ballots in Antrim were sent for adjudication. The only thing you have is the quotes from that partisan firm hired by the plaintiff in a local marijuana issue case where they mistakenly read error reports and falsely assumed that meant 68% of ballots were sent for adjudication.

Listen to an actual expert on elections...not some partisan clown who doesn't know the difference between Minnesota and Michigan.

Quote:In his report, Ramsland claimed, “The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%).” On the Antrim machines, he wrote, he “observed an error rate of 68.05%.”

The FEC regulates campaign finance, not voting equipment, and has no such guideline. The federal agency that does deal with voting equipment is the Election Assistance Commission. Antrim County’s Dominion tabulators are certified by the EAC. In Michigan, 65 out of the state’s 83 counties use voting systems manufactured by Dominion.

Moreover, the error rate identified by Ramsland is not a measure of ballot counting errors. Ramsland did not have access to the paper ballots as part of his investigation, according to Jake Rollow, a spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office. Ramsland acknowledged that he was not referring to ballot tabulation errors, even though the purported benchmark he compared it to is “1 in 250,000 ballots.”

Rather, Ramsland wrote, the error rate applies to the 15,676 “total lines or events” in Antrim’s tabulation logs. “Most of the errors were related to configuration errors that could result in overall tabulation error or adjudication,” he wrote, without giving more details or saying that they did result in such errors.

The EAC certification requirements that Antrim’s Dominion machines had to meet establish certain error thresholds for the computer code that runs the systems, but the tabulation logs track something else.

Tammy Patrick, a senior adviser to the elections program at the Washington, D.C.-based Democracy Fund, explained in an email to the Free Press that tabulation logs “aren’t the lines of code that run the system. They're logs of activities occurring in the process of tabulation. The lines of code that are reviewed in certification are the actual software codes." She said Ramsland’s report was “confusing many, many things.”

Trump tweet wrongly suggests there were defects with Michigan voting machines

Curious, now where are you going to move the goalposts to? Other states...

(02-22-2021 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, now where are you going to move the goalposts to? Other states...

Don't know about him, but my goal posts are in the same place they've always been. The problem isn't the counting of the ballots in the box, the problem is how many of those ballots should never have gotten into the box in the first place.

Republicans were asleep at the wheel all last summer when states were pushing through modifications to voting procedures that effectively destroyed what few controls over voting fraud existed in the first place. And recounts and audits can't and don't detect that. Once the ballot is in the box, no judge is going to take it back out without a conclusive and difficult to prove evidentiary trail.

Republicans were stupid last year, and paid the price. And I'm tired of republicans being stupid when it comes to elections.

(02-22-2021 01:13 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-22-2021 12:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, now where are you going to move the goalposts to? Other states...

Don't know about him, but my goal posts are in the same place they've always been. The problem isn't the counting of the ballots in the box, the problem is how many of those ballots should never have gotten into the box in the first place.

Republicans were asleep at the wheel all last summer when states were pushing through modifications to voting procedures that effectively destroyed what few controls over voting fraud existed in the first place. And recounts and audits can't and don't detect that. Once the ballot is in the box, no judge is going to take it back out without a conclusive and difficult to prove evidentiary trail.

Republicans were stupid last year, and paid the price. And I'm tired of republicans being stupid when it comes to elections.

^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

In my opinion, until there are forensic audits done to determine the validity of these mail in ballots in these swing states, any statement regarding the amount of fraud present in the 2020 election is nothing more than a pure wildazz guess.