(02-17-2021 10:31 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  I don't know of anyone who has donated to Lincoln Project, but I wonder how many on here donated to Trump's ridiculous money grab post-election.
Kind of like this poor moron who now wants his $2 million back now that he realizes he was lied to about the election being "stolen," and Trump just used it to line his own businesses' pockets?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/02...oney-back/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...db63374418

I've never donated to any of these politicians or their money grubbing schemes. They're all pos.

(02-17-2021 10:57 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:46 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:31 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  I don't know of anyone who has donated to Lincoln Project, but I wonder how many on here donated to Trump's ridiculous money grab post-election.
Kind of like this poor moron who now wants his $2 million back now that he realizes he was lied to about the election being "stolen," and Trump just used it to line his own businesses' pockets?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/02...oney-back/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...db63374418

Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Oh i can say it and have been saying it but dont ignore the rest of my post as to the differences.

And as you can see no one has said what i said including yourself

Lincoln Project is a PAC - of course they're crooked.
Their ads were well done at the beginning, but got a little too sensational for me by the end of the election.

I'm sure those on here who donated to Trump post-election won't own up to it now that they know they've been taken for a ride by the grifter.

Do I have to post the definition of grifter again? Get off the facebook, its lowering your iq.

Please.

(02-17-2021 11:39 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:57 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:46 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Oh i can say it and have been saying it but dont ignore the rest of my post as to the differences.

And as you can see no one has said what i said including yourself

Lincoln Project is a PAC - of course they're crooked.
Their ads were well done at the beginning, but got a little too sensational for me by the end of the election.

I'm sure those on here who donated to Trump post-election won't own up to it now that they know they've been taken for a ride by the grifter.

Do I have to post the definition of grifter again? Get off the facebook, its lowering your iq.

Please.

Awww. Someone must be missing some money he gave to "stop! the! steal!"

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:31 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  I don't know of anyone who has donated to Lincoln Project, but I wonder how many on here donated to Trump's ridiculous money grab post-election.
Kind of like this poor moron who now wants his $2 million back now that he realizes he was lied to about the election being "stolen," and Trump just used it to line his own businesses' pockets?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/02...oney-back/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...db63374418

Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:31 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  I don't know of anyone who has donated to Lincoln Project, but I wonder how many on here donated to Trump's ridiculous money grab post-election.
Kind of like this poor moron who now wants his $2 million back now that he realizes he was lied to about the election being "stolen," and Trump just used it to line his own businesses' pockets?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/02...oney-back/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...db63374418

Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

Absolutely

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(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:31 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  I don't know of anyone who has donated to Lincoln Project, but I wonder how many on here donated to Trump's ridiculous money grab post-election.
Kind of like this poor moron who now wants his $2 million back now that he realizes he was lied to about the election being "stolen," and Trump just used it to line his own businesses' pockets?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/02...oney-back/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...db63374418

Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:31 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  I don't know of anyone who has donated to Lincoln Project, but I wonder how many on here donated to Trump's ridiculous money grab post-election.
Kind of like this poor moron who now wants his $2 million back now that he realizes he was lied to about the election being "stolen," and Trump just used it to line his own businesses' pockets?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/02...oney-back/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...db63374418

Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

And yet you support one of, if not the longest running, entrenched clowns in the history of entrenched clowns

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(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:31 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  I don't know of anyone who has donated to Lincoln Project, but I wonder how many on here donated to Trump's ridiculous money grab post-election.
Kind of like this poor moron who now wants his $2 million back now that he realizes he was lied to about the election being "stolen," and Trump just used it to line his own businesses' pockets?

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/02...oney-back/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...db63374418

Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

What about the 40 years prior to the last 4? Did we learn anything from that? Or is it just during 45's tenure?

Quote:In an apparent attempt at damage control, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s main rival has distanced his campaign from advisors linked to the scandal-ridden Lincoln Project.


Gideon Sa’ar, who left Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Likud political party to form his center-right New Hope party, recently hired the Lincoln Project co-founders Steve Schmidt, Rick Wilson, Stuart Stevens, and Reed Galen as campaign advisors ahead of the March 23 general election.

Sa’ar will “no longer work with his American advisers who are being accused of covering up a sexual harassment scandal involving the Lincoln Project’s co-founder and pocketing millions raised by their political action committee,” the Jerusalem Post reported on Tuesday.

Given President Trump’s overwhelming support among the Israeli voters, hiring the anti-Trump spin doctors was hurting the New Hope party’s campaign.

“Sa’ar has been falling in the polls consistently since he hired,” the Lincoln Project advisors, the Jerusalem Post reported citing a rival campaign official, probably from the Netanyahu camp.

The Jerusalem Post reported the ouster of the anti-Trump campaigners from the Israeli election campaign:

Prime ministerial hopeful Gideon Sa’ar will no longer work with his American advisers who are being accused of covering up a sexual harassment scandal involving the Lincoln Project’s co-founder and pocketing millions raised by their political action committee, a Sa’ar spokesman told The Jerusalem Post exclusively on Tuesday morning.

Last month, Sa’ar hired Steve Schmidt, Stuart Stevens, Rick Wilson and Reed Galen of the Lincoln Project, which was formed in late 2019 by Republicans and former Republicans who aimed to prevent US President Donald Trump’s reelection and to defeat all pro-Trump Republicans in close races running for reelection in the Senate.

There had been speculation at the time that the Lincoln Project’s advisers would help Sa’ar defeat Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with negative ads as they did with Trump. But the spokesman downplayed what the advisers had done for Sa’ar’s campaign.

“We have never worked with the Lincoln Project. The party engaged four senior consultants who were connected with the project. The individual in question is not known to us, we have never had any contact with him and certainly have not worked with him.

The Lincoln Project advisors were expected to mount a cynical campaign to turn the right-wing base away from Netanyahu — a tactic which failed miserably in swaying the Republican base in the U.S. presidential election, the Times of Israel reported last month.

The Israeli announcement comes as more than a dozen young men, including minors, accused Lincoln Project’s co-founder John Weaver of sexually harassing them. The organization’s top management is also under fire for what Fox News described as a “suspected cover-up of Weaver’s predatory behavior” towards young men. The anti-Trump group is imploding following these damning revelations, with several prominent members fleeing the sinking ship.

Prime Minister Netanyahu’s re-election campaign did not comment on the anti-Trump campaigners’ ouster. Still, some of his supporters have been vocal about their involvement in the Israeli election campaign. This month, the noted Israeli commentator and former Netanyahu policy advisor, Caroline Glick, blasted the Israeli media for not scrutinizing the Lincoln Project over their dubious track record.

Link

(02-17-2021 12:05 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

And yet you support one of, if not the longest running, entrenched clowns in the history of entrenched clowns

Because he was light years better than the TV reality star who is incapable of basic compassion for people or for communicating effectively past a Twitter length.

(02-17-2021 12:07 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:35 AM)maximus Wrote:  Both are crooked

Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

What about the 40 years prior to the last 4? Did we learn anything from that? Or is it just during 45's tenure?

The 40 years prior were full of the "entrenched establishment" that you refer to - no argument. The Bush dynasty, the Clinton dynasty, etc. Not since Carter have you had a "regular Joe" of a guy, and even he was governor before.

Point of the past 4 years comment is that just because someone isn't a part of the "political establishment" doesn't make them just as opportunistic and crooked, if not moreso.

(02-17-2021 03:15 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:05 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 10:41 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  Wow. Progress!

Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

And yet you support one of, if not the longest running, entrenched clowns in the history of entrenched clowns

Because he was light years better than the TV reality star who is incapable of basic compassion for people or for communicating effectively past a Twitter length.

So qualifications are now..

Got to be nice and dont post on twitter at 2 am?

Other than that what did he sign, EO or bill, that you had a problem with and why.

The shtick of him being an ******* and unpresidential is tiresome.

Put it on paper. Lets hear it.

Off hand, his economy did more for minorities than any other.... ever. Opportunity zones, funding for HBCUs... something no other POTUS would do, you know action rather than "compassion" ie spewing bull.

Dont give me the weak he was a prick BS.

And no I didn't vote for him either time but he was successful in many ways.

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(02-17-2021 03:25 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 03:15 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:05 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 11:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Even better than that -- they're all crooked. Especially the entrenched establishment pols from BOTH parties.

Who else can has the integrity to say this?

They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

And yet you support one of, if not the longest running, entrenched clowns in the history of entrenched clowns

Because he was light years better than the TV reality star who is incapable of basic compassion for people or for communicating effectively past a Twitter length.

So qualifications are now..

Got to be nice and dont post on twitter at 2 am?

Other than that what did he sign, EO or bill, that you had a problem with and why.

The shtick of him being an ******* and unpresidential is tiresome.

Put it on paper. Lets hear it.

Off hand, his economy did more for minorities than any other.... ever. Opportunity zones, funding for HBCUs... something no other POTUS would do, you know action rather than "compassion" ie spewing bull.

Dont give me the weak he was a prick BS.

And no I didn't vote for him either time but he was successful in many ways.

Off the top of my head:

-The "wall" nonsense - and I of course didn't believe Mexico would pay for it like his maga cult.
-Charlottesville reaction - or the lack thereof. Same with George Floyd & others.
-Family separations at the border - YES; I know he's not the only one this happened with. But he took it and ran with it.
-His (failed) attempt to undo the ACA while he "promised" a new healthcare plan that of course, didn’t exist and never came.
-His promised economic prowess was a lie - he promised to pay down the national debt yet even pre-covid, he ran up the national debt at a higher rate than his predecessors.
-His complete and utter failure of handling the covid pandemic. Wishing it away and denying the severity for months put the US unnecessarily behind the 8 ball.
-Yes; acting "presidential" and having compassion for people in general, while not everything, is indeed something that I'd prefer in a president....not someone who mocks others and can't have a discussion that doesn't involve name-calling.

(02-17-2021 04:09 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 03:25 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 03:15 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:05 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

And yet you support one of, if not the longest running, entrenched clowns in the history of entrenched clowns

Because he was light years better than the TV reality star who is incapable of basic compassion for people or for communicating effectively past a Twitter length.

So qualifications are now..

Got to be nice and dont post on twitter at 2 am?

Other than that what did he sign, EO or bill, that you had a problem with and why.

The shtick of him being an ******* and unpresidential is tiresome.

Put it on paper. Lets hear it.

Off hand, his economy did more for minorities than any other.... ever. Opportunity zones, funding for HBCUs... something no other POTUS would do, you know action rather than "compassion" ie spewing bull.

Dont give me the weak he was a prick BS.

And no I didn't vote for him either time but he was successful in many ways.

Off the top of my head:

-The "wall" nonsense - and I of course didn't believe Mexico would pay for it like his maga cult.
-Charlottesville reaction - or the lack thereof. Same with George Floyd & others.
-Family separations at the border - YES; I know he's not the only one this happened with. But he took it and ran with it.
-His (failed) attempt to undo the ACA while he "promised" a new healthcare plan that of course, didn’t exist and never came.
-His promised economic prowess was a lie - he promised to pay down the national debt yet even pre-covid, he ran up the national debt at a higher rate than his predecessors.
-His complete and utter failure of handling the covid pandemic. Wishing it away and denying the severity for months put the US unnecessarily behind the 8 ball.
-Yes; acting "presidential" and having compassion for people in general, while not everything, is indeed something that I'd prefer in a president....not someone who mocks others and can't have a discussion that doesn't involve name-calling.

The wall. It works. The Democrats just put one around the Capitol. Both parties voted for funding for a wall. Trump just tried to spend it. Mexico paying for it was just hyperbole. So you flunk #1.
Charlottesville-he condemned the KKK and White Supremacists. He told how horrified he was with the Floyd thing. So you flunk #2 because you are brainwashed and only watch MSM.
Health care. Ok. He thought Congress was more competent than it was and would work out legislation. However, he overestimated McConnell's abilities. So 1 for 3.
Economy-Lowest unemployment in 50 years. Lowest Black unemployment ever. Manufacturing returning. So you BADLY flunk #4.
Covid-I think the whole Dem narrative is totally fos and tens of thousands more would be dead if the Dems with their racism narratives were running things. Look at the deaths in the blue states. But at least there is room for a difference of opinion. I'll give you a second.
Acting presidential-that was specifically prohibited. So that counts as two misses since you didn't follow the rules.

2 for 7. 28% That's a bad F.

(02-17-2021 04:09 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 03:25 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 03:15 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:05 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(02-17-2021 12:03 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  They're all certainly crooked. Some more crooked than others. However, if the last 4 years have shown us anything, it's that it doesn't matter if they're "entrenched establishment" or not. Opportunists are just that.

And yet you support one of, if not the longest running, entrenched clowns in the history of entrenched clowns

Because he was light years better than the TV reality star who is incapable of basic compassion for people or for communicating effectively past a Twitter length.

So qualifications are now..

Got to be nice and dont post on twitter at 2 am?

Other than that what did he sign, EO or bill, that you had a problem with and why.

The shtick of him being an ******* and unpresidential is tiresome.

Put it on paper. Lets hear it.

Off hand, his economy did more for minorities than any other.... ever. Opportunity zones, funding for HBCUs... something no other POTUS would do, you know action rather than "compassion" ie spewing bull.

Dont give me the weak he was a prick BS.

And no I didn't vote for him either time but he was successful in many ways.

Off the top of my head:

-The "wall" nonsense - and I of course didn't believe Mexico would pay for it like his maga cult.

Looks like they are paying for it.

Lincoln Project (what’s left of it) got deeply involved in today’s Israeli legislative election, on behalf of a party called (in English) “New Hope”.

The votes are still being counted. But New Hope (anti-Netanyahu, of course) appears to have vastly underperformed in the election, compared to the polls from when Lincoln Project signed up as their advisors.