Essentially, teams must have clean tests for 7 days before playing in the NCAA tourney. This makes skipping a conference tournament for a highly ranked team potentially of interest. Me: Should the ACC cancel the last weekend of regular season and start the ACCT early?

Remember the Tournament Champion win the Conference Championship.
Why would you want to pass up on an opportunity to become the Conference Champ?

(01-26-2021 12:35 PM)XLance Wrote:  Remember the Tournament Champion win the Conference Championship.
Why would you want to pass up on an opportunity to become the Conference Champ?

...for a chance to become the National champ.

There could be players, coaches and staff from 15 different universities all congregating for the ACC tournament. It’s by definition a high contagion risk COVID environment.

I imagine that all teams that will be seeded somewhere from 1-5 in the NCAA tournament will skip conference tournaments.

Good news is that it’ll give Duke and UNC a chance to claim another ACC banner and make the tournament.

(01-26-2021 02:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-26-2021 12:35 PM)XLance Wrote:  Remember the Tournament Champion win the Conference Championship.
Why would you want to pass up on an opportunity to become the Conference Champ?

...for a chance to become the National champ.

No ACC basketball school will do that. Football schools perhaps, but not the basketball schools.

I wonder if you'll see the opposite, teams at the bottom with little or no chance of winning the tournament opting out.

The key in the ACC this season is you don't have any Gonzaga in the conference that's a lock for a #1 seed and won't gain by playing in it. Every team can improve their seed in the NCAA Tournament and their chances of winning it.

(01-26-2021 08:34 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I wonder if you'll see the opposite, teams at the bottom with little or no chance of winning the tournament opting out.

The key in the ACC this season is you don't have any Gonzaga in the conference that's a lock for a #1 seed and won't gain by playing in it. Every team can improve their seed in the NCAA Tournament and their chances of winning it.

How do you know this? There are several teams in this league who could win out the rest of the way and be able to play for a number one seed. In my book, its way too early to come to your conclusion.

(01-26-2021 10:24 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-26-2021 08:34 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I wonder if you'll see the opposite, teams at the bottom with little or no chance of winning the tournament opting out.

The key in the ACC this season is you don't have any Gonzaga in the conference that's a lock for a #1 seed and won't gain by playing in it. Every team can improve their seed in the NCAA Tournament and their chances of winning it.

How do you know this? There are several teams in this league who could win out the rest of the way and be able to play for a number one seed. In my book, its way too early to come to your conclusion.

There's a difference between be able to play for a number one seed and be a lock for a number one seed. I think "lock for a number one seed" would be interpreted as in a normal year a team lost their first conference tournament game they would still be a #1 seed. How the Selection Committee would think about a team not playing in its tournament is unknown. I would say if Virginia and say Michigan or Iowa are in the discussion for a #1 seed and Virginia sits out the ACC Tournament and Michigan or Iowa wins the Big Ten Tournament, would Virginia's resume be strong enough to say they are better than Michigan or Iowa or would Virginia need to win a game or two in the ACC Tournament to improve their resume? Gonzaga meanwhile if they are undefeated you can't argue would be a #1 seed if they sit out the tournament and it doesn't matter who else wins other tournaments.

It is not out of the question that Virginia will be a #1 seed but the highest I have seeded them in the Schmolik 64 in three brackets has been a #4 seed. They also lost a game to a WCC team that isn't even close to making the tournament. I think they can get to a #1 seed but I think they need the ACC Tournament to build their resume to get it, ACC regular season play isn't going to be enough (maybe if they go undefeated in the ACC regular season considering they only have 2 non conference losses and one is to Gonzaga).

(01-27-2021 07:21 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(01-26-2021 10:24 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-26-2021 08:34 PM)schmolik Wrote:  I wonder if you'll see the opposite, teams at the bottom with little or no chance of winning the tournament opting out.

The key in the ACC this season is you don't have any Gonzaga in the conference that's a lock for a #1 seed and won't gain by playing in it. Every team can improve their seed in the NCAA Tournament and their chances of winning it.

How do you know this? There are several teams in this league who could win out the rest of the way and be able to play for a number one seed. In my book, its way too early to come to your conclusion.

There's a difference between be able to play for a number one seed and be a lock for a number one seed. I think "lock for a number one seed" would be interpreted as in a normal year a team lost their first conference tournament game they would still be a #1 seed. How the Selection Committee would think about a team not playing in its tournament is unknown. I would say if Virginia and say Michigan or Iowa are in the discussion for a #1 seed and Virginia sits out the ACC Tournament and Michigan or Iowa wins the Big Ten Tournament, would Virginia's resume be strong enough to say they are better than Michigan or Iowa or would Virginia need to win a game or two in the ACC Tournament to improve their resume? Gonzaga meanwhile if they are undefeated you can't argue would be a #1 seed if they sit out the tournament and it doesn't matter who else wins other tournaments.

It is not out of the question that Virginia will be a #1 seed but the highest I have seeded them in the Schmolik 64 in three brackets has been a #4 seed. They also lost a game to a WCC team that isn't even close to making the tournament. I think they can get to a #1 seed but I think they need the ACC Tournament to build their resume to get it, ACC regular season play isn't going to be enough (maybe if they go undefeated in the ACC regular season considering they only have 2 non conference losses and one is to Gonzaga).

Your original response was that there are no ACC teams who could earn a number one seed by playing in a Acc tourney. My point is that its way too early to come to that conclusion. You seem to agree when you say that Virginia has a chance. I think there are a couple more teams who can play for a #1 seed from the ACC