(12-02-2020 12:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:17 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Affidavits are sworn under penalties of perjury. How many of them said things that contradict their sworn statements?


You can keep calling everybody liars all you want. It doesn't make it so.

Well, unless you're talking about politicians. Everybody knows they're all liars. Yes, even the Democrats.

Many of us could perhaps believe if there were only one or two affidavits filed into evidence on this. BUT NO Reasonable person can truthfully believe that several HUNDREDS of people are all lying under oath, at personal risk of prison each and every one. No way that there are several HUNDREDS of regular Americans, all wanting to help their country find the truth in this moronic sham, and they are ALL happen to be lying with everything to lose and Nothing to gain? Put those HUNDREDS of people up against the small group of Uber-elites from the Left and a few from the right-ALL of whom hold high-paying cushy jobs and pensions, ALL of them with EVERYTHING to Lose if their frauds are exposed. Who you gonna believe? I know it was no accident how all the Fox talking heads flipped on a dime: they were told: either you say what we want, or you lose your job and retirement TODAY and you've got nowhere else to go to make a living because you have NO Real Skills anyone would hire you for. And without the hairstylists and makeup smears with false eyelashes, ya'll don't even really look all that good in real life out on the street. Shallow is as shallow does. I'm quickly getting used to the more-ordinary, but truthful journalist on NewsMax and OANN. And Spicer is a great guy and pleasant to listen to and understand. Some of their other anchors may not be babes, but they are real and honest, and I don't need the false eyelashes anyway as they just get lost in the sheets.

While I agree with your sentiment, you must consider the corollary.

For this level of cheating to occur, there must be "several HUNDREDS of people" willing to break the election laws.

Either way we are talking about large numbers of people willingly breaking the law.

(12-02-2020 12:17 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-01-2020 02:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  CP, Again, none of these people were under oath. They can say they saw anything with no repercussion.

Affidavits are sworn under penalties of perjury. How many of them said things that contradict their sworn statements?


You can keep calling everybody liars all you want. It doesn't make it so.

Well, unless you're talking about politicians. Everybody knows they're all liars. Yes, even the Democrats.

Perjury to what? They are not under any oath!

And if you read the vast majority of them, they just say they saw something...many of those things are just what they don't understand.

I can swear that I see a cord attached to a machine that's attached to the wall and say, hey, it's connected to the internet. Doesn't mean it is. And it doesn't mean I lied. It's what I believe to be true.

Besides, nobody is going to attempt to impeach these "witnesses" because they don't have to it. It's not a court proceeding and it's not worth anyone's time. The states in question have already certified. It. Is. Over.

(12-02-2020 01:03 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 12:17 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Affidavits are sworn under penalties of perjury. How many of them said things that contradict their sworn statements?


You can keep calling everybody liars all you want. It doesn't make it so.

Well, unless you're talking about politicians. Everybody knows they're all liars. Yes, even the Democrats.

Many of us could perhaps believe if there were only one or two affidavits filed into evidence on this. BUT NO Reasonable person can truthfully believe that several HUNDREDS of people are all lying under oath, at personal risk of prison each and every one. No way that there are several HUNDREDS of regular Americans, all wanting to help their country find the truth in this moronic sham, and they are ALL happen to be lying with everything to lose and Nothing to gain? Put those HUNDREDS of people up against the small group of Uber-elites from the Left and a few from the right-ALL of whom hold high-paying cushy jobs and pensions, ALL of them with EVERYTHING to Lose if their frauds are exposed. Who you gonna believe? I know it was no accident how all the Fox talking heads flipped on a dime: they were told: either you say what we want, or you lose your job and retirement TODAY and you've got nowhere else to go to make a living because you have NO Real Skills anyone would hire you for. And without the hairstylists and makeup smears with false eyelashes, ya'll don't even really look all that good in real life out on the street. Shallow is as shallow does. I'm quickly getting used to the more-ordinary, but truthful journalist on NewsMax and OANN. And Spicer is a great guy and pleasant to listen to and understand. Some of their other anchors may not be babes, but they are real and honest, and I don't need the false eyelashes anyway as they just get lost in the sheets.

While I agree with your sentiment, you must consider the corollary.

For this level of cheating to occur, there must be "several HUNDREDS of people" willing to break the election laws.

Either way we are talking about large numbers of people willingly breaking the law.

Well, just consider for a moment: we had almost an entire YEAR (2020) of near-constant Rioting, Looting and Burning/Destruction--with almost No Consequences for the Perpetrators of those Crimes. We had several "take-overs" of large areas of American cities, with almost No Consequences for the Perpetrators of those Crimes. We had Democratic and some Republican leaders and mayors, etc... actively telling police and law enforcement that THEY would be punished for enforcing or attempting to enforce the laws, which is their job, by the way, and MANY of THOSE GOOD OFFICERS and POLICEMEN and WOMEN LOST THEIR JOBS. SO...How hard is it to believe that when the message is sent to those who would be willing to destroy our country that no one will stand in their way...how hard is it to believe that a lot or even hundreds of those folks would be willing to do this? No Not hard...Not hard at all.

"What good is a Disease that can't hurt you?" (hint: covid can't --so they made it hurt you anyway.)
"What good is Computerized Chocolate?" (Fake Election much?) Hey, I didn't ask it, Lou Reed did.

Artist: Lou Reed
Album: Magic & Loss
Song: "What's Good?"
January 14, 1992 Sire Records