Quote:Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden is touting Wall Street’s support for his $640 billion housing plan that would force low-income, multi-family housing developments into America’s suburban communities.

During a visit to Kenosha, Wisconsin — where the Black Lives Matter organization and members of Antifa have led riots for weeks — Biden told supporters that Wall Street supports his housing plan because it “will increase the GDP.”

“And by the way, it’s not a waste of money. Even the folks on Wall Street point out that will increase the GDP, make it grow,” Biden said of the plan. “People will do better, people will do better.”

Biden’s housing plan, as Breitbart News has noted, would implement an unprecedented expansion of Section 8 housing vouchers while requiring that local communities abolish strict zoning laws in order to become eligible for certain federal grants.

The plan provides a $300 million investment “to give states and localities the technical assistance and planning support they need to eliminate exclusionary zoning policies and other local regulations that contribute to sprawl.”

Communities unwilling to eliminate their zoning laws to allow multi-family, mixed-income housing development in their neighborhoods would be shut out of federal grants under Biden’s plan:

Exclusionary zoning has for decades been strategically used to keep people of color and low-income families out of certain communities. As President, Biden will enact legislation requiring any state receiving federal dollars … to develop a strategy for inclusionary zoning, as proposed in the HOME Act of 2019 by Majority Whip Clyburn and Senator Cory Booker. [Emphasis added]

Former New York Lieutenant Governor Betsy McCaughey ®, has called Biden’s housing plan “disastrous” for suburban families who would see rapid dense-housing developments pop up in their communities.

“Biden’s plan is to force suburban towns with single-family homes and minimum lot sizes to build high-density affordable housing smack in the middle of their leafy neighborhoods — local preferences and local control be damned,” McCaughey wrote in July.

The plan is coupled with Biden’s expansion of illegal and legal immigration, producing a model for packed suburbs with record population growth, denser living spaces, and potentially a migration from cities to smaller, middle-class communities.

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SMH.

He wants to build pandemic spreading housing to keep the fear going.

It all makes sense.

So people will just move out of the suburbs to the country, that is IF the New Green deal doesn't eliminate all individually owned cars and force people to live in urban areas. BTW Biden says Trump's opposition to this is because Trump is racist and wants to keep brown people from moving to the suburbs. Dems don't want to admit Section 8 housing destroys home values and imports crime as crime follows the poor since they are easy prey, nothing to do with race.

Juck Foe Biden

Get the poor people out of the city so well to do Democrats don't have to be around them.

The City of Newport News did this. They bought Warwick County back in ‘58. Warwick was rural and suburban. It grew more suburban and less rural in the ensuing decades. In the 80s, the mayor ordered a moratorium on section 8 downtown (old Newport News) and all new section 8 would be built in old Warwick. Now almost the whole city is a schithole aside from what was already suburban back in the 80s. Everything that was still acreage became section 8 apartments.


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I am finding it hard to want to read these posts.

Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

(09-07-2020 08:54 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Its been a while, But coming here I have to see if the other side has changed to the facts.

Here I thought Trump was supposed to be the anti-choice dictator.

(09-07-2020 06:39 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  He wants to build pandemic spreading housing to keep the fear going.

It all makes sense.

That's not it.

It's a way of gerrymandering.

Imagine you have a deep blue city and it's a democratic stronghold. Republicans don't stand a chance, but a district next to it is red and it's full of suburbanites... Why keep wasting votes in the city, when you can ship the votes there and turn the red district blue.

The way they'll push this through is by trying to with hold infrastructure money (new roads, utilities) if they don't bend to the will.

Kinda devious.

(09-08-2020 06:53 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 06:39 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  He wants to build pandemic spreading housing to keep the fear going.

It all makes sense.

That's not it.

It's a way of gerrymandering.

Imagine you have a deep blue city and it's a democratic stronghold. Republicans don't stand a chance, but a district next to it is red and it's full of suburbanites... Why keep wasting votes in the city, when you can ship the votes there and turn the red district blue.

The way they'll push this through is by trying to with hold infrastructure money (new roads, utilities) if they don't bend to the will.

Kinda devious.

Exactly what Bloomberg did in Virginia.

(09-07-2020 09:06 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 08:54 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Its been a while, But coming here I have to see if the other side has changed to the facts.

They're more firmly entrenched in the cult mentality then they've ever been. They know deep down trump has ****** their "brand"...so they've made the decision to just go down with the ship rather than to own up. It's really quite sad.

Hope you can manage to stick around...there's not too many sane voices left here.

(09-08-2020 07:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 09:06 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 08:54 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Its been a while, But coming here I have to see if the other side has changed to the facts.

They're more firmly entrenched in the cult mentality then they've ever been. They know deep down trump has ****** their "brand"...so they've made the decision to just go down with the ship rather than to own up. It's really quite sad.

Hope you can manage to stick around...there's not too many sane voices left here.

Tell me what does anything either of you said has to do with Biden's plan? And a follow up, how about either or both of you telling all of us exactly how you feel about that plan. If you agree with it, why?

I think these shutdowns are going to get rid of the suburbs more than anything. The allure of the suburbs is that you can live relatively close to work and have decent schools and little crime. Now that nobody has to show up for work anymore, I bet people start buying up acreage. Who really wants to pay $600k to live in a 3,000 sq ft poorly constructed McMansion on a postage stamp with Karen peeking out her window next door? I can get 8 acres on navigable water front 45 minutes away for less than my current .21 acre landlocked corner lot is worth.

(09-08-2020 07:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-08-2020 07:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 09:06 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 08:54 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Its been a while, But coming here I have to see if the other side has changed to the facts.

They're more firmly entrenched in the cult mentality then they've ever been. They know deep down trump has ****** their "brand"...so they've made the decision to just go down with the ship rather than to own up. It's really quite sad.

Hope you can manage to stick around...there's not too many sane voices left here.

Tell me what does anything either of you said has to do with Biden's plan? And a follow up, how about either or both of you telling all of us exactly how you feel about that plan. If you agree with it, why?

Wait.. That guy is talking about sanity?

(09-07-2020 09:06 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 08:54 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Its been a while, But coming here I have to see if the other side has changed to the facts.

So you are a Republican?

This is the Democrat's policy. Its what their urban planners want. Make everything like the city. If you don't believe it, its because you are ignorant about these issues and what the planners have been talking about the last 10 years or so.

(09-08-2020 07:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-08-2020 07:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 09:06 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-07-2020 08:54 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Its been a while, But coming here I have to see if the other side has changed to the facts.

They're more firmly entrenched in the cult mentality then they've ever been. They know deep down trump has ****** their "brand"...so they've made the decision to just go down with the ship rather than to own up. It's really quite sad.

Hope you can manage to stick around...there's not too many sane voices left here.

Tell me what does anything either of you said has to do with Biden's plan? And a follow up, how about either or both of you telling all of us exactly how you feel about that plan. If you agree with it, why?

Well, no way I'm reading anything from Breitbart, but here's a piece from Forbes on his plan.
3 Most Important Proposals In Joe Biden’s $640 Billion Housing Plan


Seems mostly fine to me. I certainly don't see anything that's going to destroy the suburbs. What in your mind would actually do that...making some white folks have to live by black people? Oh, the humanity.

Additionally, this is just a plan. You know damned well if this ever sees a Biden presidential desk, it's going to be massaged like crazy.

So Tom has no problem with local zoning issues being determined by the federal government.

It will destroy the suburbs as they now exist. It will deny people the right to control their own community and to choose to live in low density housing.

And its a plan basically designed to protect rich people in the cities. There needs to be more density in many places, but those places are the cities. Look at San Francisco where they have single family all through the central city.

Where housing prices have stayed relatively low are places like Dallas and Houston where they allow developers to build. And they have either no zoning (Houston) or a very light hand (Dallas).