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NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
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NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for the 2020-21 college basketball season

There was some push to stay with Nov. 10 as the start date, but sources told CBS Sports the target is just over two weeks later


By Matt Norlander
Sep 2, 2020 at 10:15 am ET

The NCAA's women's basketball oversight committee and men's basketball oversight committee jointly agreed on Tuesday to propose Nov. 25 as the start date for the 2020-21 college basketball season, sources told CBS Sports.

Nov. 25 is the day before Thanksgiving.

"It was a hard proposal and they all left [the call] saying the 25th was the date they're going to take," one source said.

The proposal will eventually be sent to the Division I Council, which is scheduled to meet on Sept. 16. An approving vote by the Council on that day would make Nov. 25 college basketball's new official opening day, but sources have stressed that flexibility in the coming 6-8 weeks will be paramount. If the environment in the United States and college athletics changes for the worse in regard to the coronavirus pandemic, men's and women's basketball will have their season starts delayed as necessary.

In the wake of CBS Sports initially reporting the four start dates up for discussion, Nov. 25 had been presumed to be the favorite for more than a week. Sources said that some people on Tuesday's conference call unsuccessfully lobbied to keep the schedule as is, pushing for a Nov. 10 start date, which has been the goal for many college administrators.

Sources added that the Pac-12 has communicated that a Dec. 4 start date would be its first preference, providing an indication the league is moving closer to reversing its Aug. 11 decision to prohibit basketball until January -- CBS Sports reported that news on Aug. 27. One source said if Nov. 25 was to be the date, the Pac-12 "could probably work with that."

Much of the debate from Tuesday's call didn't center around a start date, but rather the amount of allowable practice and in-person workout hours that would be permissible before the preseason officially begins. If college basketball is to start on Nov. 25, that would mean preseason practices could start as early as 42 days prior: Oct. 14. Those details are expected to be hashed out soon. The situation is somewhat complicated by the fact that many schools around the country still aren't allowed to have their players in their athletic facilities.

The next issue to tackle, according to two sources, is the topic of game minimums and game maximums allowable for the 2020-21 season. It's a thorny subject because it's yet to be determined if the college basketball season will begin with every conference going to in-league play only, or if the sport will start as usual with nonconference matchups making up the spread of the schedule. The timeline on those decisions remains unclear, but sources previously told CBS Sports that September into early October will go a long way to dictating under what circumstances and template college basketball's 2020-21 season could begin.

As far as game minimums, NCAA senior vice president of basketball Dan Gavitt told CBS Sports in July that the men's basketball selection committee would be willing to amend a rule for 2020-21 in terms of automatic bids. Whatever or however a conference decides to determine its champion and automatic bid recipient -- regardless of conference tournament allowability or game inventory -- the committee would accept that given the circumstances for an unprecedented forthcoming season.
09-03-2020 11:18 AM
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
There will be a rushed vaccine available early November, nothing to worry about.
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...sion-teams

ACC coaches proposing an "all inclusive" NCAA tourney that would include ALL Division 1 teams. No details announced.

Interesting, but I have no doubt they are setting this up in a way to benefit the P6 teams.
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
(09-09-2020 10:34 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...sion-teams

ACC coaches proposing an "all inclusive" NCAA tourney that would include ALL Division 1 teams. No details announced.

Interesting, but I have no doubt they are setting this up in a way to benefit the P6 teams.

If you invited 352 teams, 160 teams would receive a bye and 192 would play in the first round. That would leave 256 to play in the 2nd round. There would be 9 rounds.

The extra tv revenue would offset some of the lost revenue from the '19-'20 tournament.
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
(09-09-2020 11:48 AM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 10:34 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...sion-teams

ACC coaches proposing an "all inclusive" NCAA tourney that would include ALL Division 1 teams. No details announced.

Interesting, but I have no doubt they are setting this up in a way to benefit the P6 teams.

If you invited 352 teams, 160 teams would receive a bye and 192 would play in the first round. That would leave 256 to play in the 2nd round. There would be 9 rounds.

The extra tv revenue would offset some of the lost revenue from the '19-'20 tournament.
How much extra TV revenue would watching a 2-24 team for example create?
09-09-2020 12:04 PM
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
(09-09-2020 12:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 11:48 AM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  [quote='CG_Hawk06' pid='16983829' dateline='1599665699']
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...sion-teams

ACC coaches proposing an "all inclusive" NCAA tourney that would include ALL Division 1 teams. No details announced.

Interesting, but I have no doubt they are setting this up in a way to benefit the P6 teams.

If you invited 352 teams, 160 teams would receive a bye and 192 would play in the first round. That would leave 256 to play in the 2nd round. There would be 9 rounds.

Interesting thought experiment. They could set up early rounds by (actual) local geography, then seed the whole thing by strict NET ratings.

It would be quite a sight to see what shook out.
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
(09-09-2020 12:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 11:48 AM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 10:34 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...sion-teams

ACC coaches proposing an "all inclusive" NCAA tourney that would include ALL Division 1 teams. No details announced.

Interesting, but I have no doubt they are setting this up in a way to benefit the P6 teams.

If you invited 352 teams, 160 teams would receive a bye and 192 would play in the first round. That would leave 256 to play in the 2nd round. There would be 9 rounds.

The extra tv revenue would offset some of the lost revenue from the '19-'20 tournament.
How much extra TV revenue would watching a 2-24 team for example create?

Not much, but keep in mind they're going to scratch and claw for anything at this point due to lost revenue from last year combined with the schools' inability to bring in max revenue from ticket sales and everything that goes along with that this year as well. The NCAA is set to make a decision on college basketball on 16 Sep (1 week from today). I'm fully expecting them to delay the start, but would be pleasantly surprised if they don't.
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
(09-09-2020 01:03 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 12:04 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 11:48 AM)geezerhawkdad Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 10:34 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...sion-teams

ACC coaches proposing an "all inclusive" NCAA tourney that would include ALL Division 1 teams. No details announced.

Interesting, but I have no doubt they are setting this up in a way to benefit the P6 teams.

If you invited 352 teams, 160 teams would receive a bye and 192 would play in the first round. That would leave 256 to play in the 2nd round. There would be 9 rounds.

The extra tv revenue would offset some of the lost revenue from the '19-'20 tournament.
How much extra TV revenue would watching a 2-24 team for example create?

Not much, but keep in mind they're going to scratch and claw for anything at this point due to lost revenue from last year combined with the schools' inability to bring in max revenue from ticket sales and everything that goes along with that this year as well. The NCAA is set to make a decision on college basketball on 16 Sep (1 week from today). I'm fully expecting them to delay the start, but would be pleasantly surprised if they don't.
That's fair. Every little bit counts I suppose.
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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
How quickly could one set up a D-I school? Asking for a friend.

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RE: NCAA committees pushing for Nov. 25 as the start date for college basketball
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...-ncaa-says

No plans to expand men's basketball tournament in 2021 after ACC's all-in proposal, NCAA says

Gavitt previously told ESPN in multiple conversations that the NCAA intended to keep its event in March and April while offering leagues flexibility to select their automatic qualifiers. He also said the NCAA has explored the idea of using replacement teams to continue the tournament if a team is eliminated because of a positive test for COVID-19.
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