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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 04:11 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 04:07 PM)novachap Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 03:31 PM)X-man Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 01:21 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 12:55 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I'm a big fan of IPAs in general and those IPAs from the Northeast tend to be outstanding. I, too, like a gose. Sours are fine but not in my top five styles.

Have learned to like a robust stout when it's cold. And I enjoy APAs, hefes and porters. Not a fan of reds, browns and ambers.

With lagers, I enjoy a pilsner and a bock.

Cincinnati has a stellar beer culture due to its German influence. I want to visit soon and hit at least seven or eight breweries. My brother concluded his UC studies in 2000 and I've visited the city only three or four times since. I'm a big fan of the city overall. Has a very nice "feel" to it. The XU campus and general area are quite pleasant. That's a fine university.

We have about 20 breweries in Davidson County/Nashville. The scene is very solid but not on the level of Cincy. Whiskey is likely a bigger deal hear.

I'm not a big fan of IPA's, but anything from The Alchemist in Stowe, VT is phenomenal. My favorite is Focal Banger.

Fuzzy Baby Ducks, by New England Brewing Co here in CT is another great one. I'll likely be moving out of state for grad school in the summer, and it's one of the few things I'll miss, lol.

The Alchemist (particularly its Heady Topper) is good, but Vermont's Lawson's and Hill Farmstead are both head and shoulders above the Alchemist for the most part. In fact, Hill typically has at least 5 of the top 20 beers in the world according to the Beer Advocate.

X-Man, totally agree... Hill and Lawson's are very good. Have had the pleasure of having both when in Vermont and CT. However, not a huge IPA fan and in that case, I am very fortunate to live in Grand Rapids. Founders and New Holland put out fantastic Stouts and Ales... and also close to Bell's if I want to head to Kzoo..


I've got to visit Grand Rapids and KMazoo for the craft scene. The former manager of our office's neighborhood craft beer bar is from Michigan, and he and I had some strong chats about that scene. It's elite.

I'm sure you lads have heard Asheville is strong. Have been four times and love it. Burial might be my favorite.

yessir... have heard Asheville does a great job. It is pretty amazing how the whole craft beer scene exploded. The inevitable consolidation /cashing out is happening, but it clearly was not just a fad. Most any major city has decent beers now, gotta love it!
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 03:31 PM)X-man Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 01:21 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 12:55 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 10:39 AM)X-man Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 04:47 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  A case for $2.99? Strong.

In college, I would buy a six-pack of Cincinnati-made Hudepohl or Wiedemann for $1.99.

I don't recall if Nashville could get Bavarian back in the late 1970s to early 1980s. Probably could.

Today, I strongly enjoy Braxton (Covington), Mad Tree (Cincy) and Rhinegeist (Cincy). GREAT beer city. I kind of wish my brother still lived in the Queen City.

I agree about Cincinnati as a great beer city. Every time you turn around, another great brewery opens. I went to Brewdog last weekend, and it was incredible. Perhaps because I am from the northeast, I am very partial to NE (hazy) IPA's. I first tasted them at Hill Farmstead in northeast Vermont, and I was hooked. At the time, nobody in Cincinnati was making them. I spent the next several weeks trying to convince Listerman's (the brewery literally outside my office here in Cincinnati) to get on board with NE hazy's. They finally did, and now it seems at least a third of their beers on any given day are hazy's. Now I want to see more gose beers. Not a sour fan but gose's are a great summer beer.


I'm a big fan of IPAs in general and those IPAs from the Northeast tend to be outstanding. I, too, like a gose. Sours are fine but not in my top five styles.

Have learned to like a robust stout when it's cold. And I enjoy APAs, hefes and porters. Not a fan of reds, browns and ambers.

With lagers, I enjoy a pilsner and a bock.

Cincinnati has a stellar beer culture due to its German influence. I want to visit soon and hit at least seven or eight breweries. My brother concluded his UC studies in 2000 and I've visited the city only three or four times since. I'm a big fan of the city overall. Has a very nice "feel" to it. The XU campus and general area are quite pleasant. That's a fine university.

We have about 20 breweries in Davidson County/Nashville. The scene is very solid but not on the level of Cincy. Whiskey is likely a bigger deal hear.

I'm not a big fan of IPA's, but anything from The Alchemist in Stowe, VT is phenomenal. My favorite is Focal Banger.

Fuzzy Baby Ducks, by New England Brewing Co here in CT is another great one. I'll likely be moving out of state for grad school in the summer, and it's one of the few things I'll miss, lol.

The Alchemist (particularly its Heady Topper) is good, but Vermont's Lawson's and Hill Farmstead are both head and shoulders above the Alchemist for the most part. In fact, Hill typically has at least 5 of the top 20 beers in the world according to the Beer Advocate.

Lawson's is definitely a great brewery. When Sip of Sunshine first came out, it was the type of thing people rushed to the store to get and told all of their friends about around here. It never lasted a day in the stores. They stated licensing the recipe to NEB Co though, and now it's pretty common and not as highly regarded. That may be why I have more of an affinity for The Alchemist, it's just more rare and thus feels like more of a delicacy lol.

Heady Topper is phenomenal as well. I think that's my dad's favorite beer if I'm not mistaken.

Tree House in Massachusetts is another great brewery. It just sucks because they don't sell anything they make outside of their main brewery, so you have to take a trip there if you want any of their products. Definitely worth doing from time to time though.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 04:03 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 01:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  looking at the list for this week- tonight is just a huge night.

Darn it, S20. We're having a robust chat about craft beer within this thread and you try to inject college hoops into the equation. What kind of message board to you think this is?

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Just returned to the posts from Nameless, Novachap and XMan ...

... it's worth noting that something like craft beer can "unite" us, while sports can "tribal-ize us." This is why I find distasteful sports message boards — and sports in generalize. I love sports but they (like politics and religion) can bring out the worst in people. Creative things (movies, art, beer, architecture, literature, fashion) tend to bring out the best.

I sincerely appreciate the posts regarding the beer scene. It was refreshingly different. I toast a craft beer to you all.

As you get older (I'm almost 60) and you see family and friends struggle with health concerns, you appreciate that more than ever.

Thanks, everybody.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 08:07 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Just returned to the posts from Nameless, Novachap and XMan ...

... it's worth noting that something like craft beer can "unite" us, while sports can "tribal-ize us." This is why I find distasteful sports message boards — and sports in generalize. I love sports but they (like politics and religion) can bring out the worst in people. Creative things (movies, art, beer, architecture, literature, fashion) tend to bring out the best.

I sincerely appreciate the posts regarding the beer scene. It was refreshingly different. I toast a craft beer to you all.

As you get older (I'm almost 60) and you see family and friends struggle with health concerns, you appreciate that more than ever.

Thanks, everybody.

I second this, especially the bolded. I love the AAC board but was actually thinking earlier how it was refreshing to just see a bunch of people talking about something they love, as opposed to arguing, trolling, etc.

I'm happy this board has made it to the "proving grounds" and out of total obscurity. Here's to making it an active board 04-cheers
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 09:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.

Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 11:31 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 09:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.

Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now

they're lucky because a lot of teams just below them lost.... They get really helped IMO by Georgetown losing to Providence(PC has a real tough rest of the way). They'll probably be one of the first 3-4 teams out on Friday IMO.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 11:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:31 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 09:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.

Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now

they're lucky because a lot of teams just below them lost.... They get really helped IMO by Georgetown losing to Providence(PC has a real tough rest of the way). They'll probably be one of the first 3-4 teams out on Friday IMO.

Didn't even realize Georgetown lost tonight until reading that post. I agree that definitely helps.

Another thing working against Cincy (and any AAC team fighting for a bid) is SMU inexplicably losing to Tulane tonight. Memphis barely skating by against ECU isn't a great look either, but obviously better than a loss.

The parity in the league is exciting and fun to watch, but man is it killing the league's hopes for multiple tourney bids.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
so to me right now the Big East has 4 locks(a lock to me is you go winless and still make the tourney). Seton Hall, Creighton, Villanova, and Butler. All 4 are at 19+ wins.

Marquette probably needs 1 more win. I'm just not ready to say a 17-14 Marquette who would have lost on Wednesday of the BET would make the tourney.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 11:56 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:31 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 09:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.

Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now

they're lucky because a lot of teams just below them lost.... They get really helped IMO by Georgetown losing to Providence(PC has a real tough rest of the way). They'll probably be one of the first 3-4 teams out on Friday IMO.

Didn't even realize Georgetown lost tonight until reading that post. I agree that definitely helps.

Another thing working against Cincy (and any AAC team fighting for a bid) is SMU inexplicably losing to Tulane tonight. Memphis barely skating by against ECU isn't a great look either, but obviously better than a loss.

The parity in the league is exciting and fun to watch, but man is it killing the league's hopes for multiple tourney bids.

SMU only dropped from 67 to 73 so wins @ SMU still Q1.

AAC I think 1st time ever has all 12 teams in the top 200. the coaching hires at ECU and Tulane really helping those programs out.

But with the struggles at the top, you just wonder if you see the league go out and get a VCU to keep the league at 12 for basketball.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 11:29 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 08:07 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Just returned to the posts from Nameless, Novachap and XMan ...

... it's worth noting that something like craft beer can "unite" us, while sports can "tribal-ize us." This is why I find distasteful sports message boards — and sports in generalize. I love sports but they (like politics and religion) can bring out the worst in people. Creative things (movies, art, beer, architecture, literature, fashion) tend to bring out the best.

I sincerely appreciate the posts regarding the beer scene. It was refreshingly different. I toast a craft beer to you all.

As you get older (I'm almost 60) and you see family and friends struggle with health concerns, you appreciate that more than ever.

Thanks, everybody.

I second this, especially the bolded. I love the AAC board but was actually thinking earlier how it was refreshing to just see a bunch of people talking about something they love, as opposed to arguing, trolling, etc.

I'm happy this board has made it to the "proving grounds" and out of total obscurity. Here's to making it an active board 04-cheers


Agree. Maybe we can get a few more folks posting.

I miss Scosox.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 11:31 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 09:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.

Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now


As a Cincy fan, this loss was pathetic. UCF is solid but the Bearcats were at home and some very nice momentum.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-20-2020 09:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:56 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:31 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 09:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.

Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now

they're lucky because a lot of teams just below them lost.... They get really helped IMO by Georgetown losing to Providence(PC has a real tough rest of the way). They'll probably be one of the first 3-4 teams out on Friday IMO.

Didn't even realize Georgetown lost tonight until reading that post. I agree that definitely helps.

Another thing working against Cincy (and any AAC team fighting for a bid) is SMU inexplicably losing to Tulane tonight. Memphis barely skating by against ECU isn't a great look either, but obviously better than a loss.

The parity in the league is exciting and fun to watch, but man is it killing the league's hopes for multiple tourney bids.

SMU only dropped from 67 to 73 so wins @ SMU still Q1.

AAC I think 1st time ever has all 12 teams in the top 200. the coaching hires at ECU and Tulane really helping those programs out.

But with the struggles at the top, you just wonder if you see the league go out and get a VCU to keep the league at 12 for basketball.

It's funny because it would actually make more sense for them to stay at 11 in basketball and move to a 20 game round robin like the Big East uses. But in basketball there are plenty of great additions, most notably VCU as you mentioned, and they really could use another solid team in the league. They may end up adding someone anyways.

In football, it makes more sense for them to go to 12 so they can once again employ balanced divisions and increase the profile of the league by adding another solid team. But the options there are much more limited and there are no homerun type choices that would jump at an offer, as there are in basketball. They may end up adding no one.

In a perfect world, things would be flipped. I'm interested to see if they make any moves, and what they will be
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(02-19-2020 11:56 PM)stever20 Wrote:  so to me right now the Big East has 4 locks(a lock to me is you go winless and still make the tourney). Seton Hall, Creighton, Villanova, and Butler. All 4 are at 19+ wins.

Marquette probably needs 1 more win. I'm just not ready to say a 17-14 Marquette who would have lost on Wednesday of the BET would make the tourney.


You're probably correct in this hypothetical but Marquette will make it (and deservedly so).
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(02-19-2020 11:56 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:31 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 09:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  updated with most of the early games from tonight.... couple of huge games going on now.

Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now

they're lucky because a lot of teams just below them lost.... They get really helped IMO by Georgetown losing to Providence(PC has a real tough rest of the way). They'll probably be one of the first 3-4 teams out on Friday IMO.

Didn't even realize Georgetown lost tonight until reading that post. I agree that definitely helps.

Another thing working against Cincy (and any AAC team fighting for a bid) is SMU inexplicably losing to Tulane tonight. Memphis barely skating by against ECU isn't a great look either, but obviously better than a loss.

The parity in the league is exciting and fun to watch, but man is it killing the league's hopes for multiple tourney bids.


Yurtseven didn't play for Georgetown and that killed the Hoyas last night. McClung was back but played a mere eight minutes.
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(02-20-2020 09:16 AM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-20-2020 09:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:56 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 11:31 PM)Nameless Wrote:  Just because we mentioned Cincy earlier in the thread... Any thought of where they stand after a home loss to UCF tonight? That's 4 losses below Q2 for them now

they're lucky because a lot of teams just below them lost.... They get really helped IMO by Georgetown losing to Providence(PC has a real tough rest of the way). They'll probably be one of the first 3-4 teams out on Friday IMO.

Didn't even realize Georgetown lost tonight until reading that post. I agree that definitely helps.

Another thing working against Cincy (and any AAC team fighting for a bid) is SMU inexplicably losing to Tulane tonight. Memphis barely skating by against ECU isn't a great look either, but obviously better than a loss.

The parity in the league is exciting and fun to watch, but man is it killing the league's hopes for multiple tourney bids.

SMU only dropped from 67 to 73 so wins @ SMU still Q1.

AAC I think 1st time ever has all 12 teams in the top 200. the coaching hires at ECU and Tulane really helping those programs out.

But with the struggles at the top, you just wonder if you see the league go out and get a VCU to keep the league at 12 for basketball.

It's funny because it would actually make more sense for them to stay at 11 in basketball and move to a 20 game round robin like the Big East uses. But in basketball there are plenty of great additions, most notably VCU as you mentioned, and they really could use another solid team in the league. They may end up adding someone anyways.

In football, it makes more sense for them to go to 12 so they can once again employ balanced divisions and increase the profile of the league by adding another solid team. But the options there are much more limited and there are no homerun type choices that would jump at an offer, as there are in basketball. They may end up adding no one.

In a perfect world, things would be flipped. I'm interested to see if they make any moves, and what they will be


Perfect world add for AAC: Army/VCU. Not gonna happen.

Solid option: ODU for all sports

Wildcard: App State for football only/VCU for Olympic sports

As you note, and I agree, there is no "homerun" option.

I disagree with you on staying at 11 for hoops and round-robin-ing it. That works well in the BE, because every program is solid to strong. Too much mediocrity every year in the bottom third of the American.

I want 12 for the AAC and would take 14 in the right circumstance. I want 12 for the BE, too, with Saint Louis my top choice (though Dayton would be strong, too).
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Man, things could get really uncomfortable in the A10 for Dayton should VCU go to the AAC and SLU to the Big East.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
(02-19-2020 04:39 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
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(02-19-2020 10:39 AM)X-man Wrote:  I agree about Cincinnati as a great beer city. Every time you turn around, another great brewery opens. I went to Brewdog last weekend, and it was incredible. Perhaps because I am from the northeast, I am very partial to NE (hazy) IPA's. I first tasted them at Hill Farmstead in northeast Vermont, and I was hooked. At the time, nobody in Cincinnati was making them. I spent the next several weeks trying to convince Listerman's (the brewery literally outside my office here in Cincinnati) to get on board with NE hazy's. They finally did, and now it seems at least a third of their beers on any given day are hazy's. Now I want to see more gose beers. Not a sour fan but gose's are a great summer beer.


I'm a big fan of IPAs in general and those IPAs from the Northeast tend to be outstanding. I, too, like a gose. Sours are fine but not in my top five styles.

Have learned to like a robust stout when it's cold. And I enjoy APAs, hefes and porters. Not a fan of reds, browns and ambers.

With lagers, I enjoy a pilsner and a bock.

Cincinnati has a stellar beer culture due to its German influence. I want to visit soon and hit at least seven or eight breweries. My brother concluded his UC studies in 2000 and I've visited the city only three or four times since. I'm a big fan of the city overall. Has a very nice "feel" to it. The XU campus and general area are quite pleasant. That's a fine university.

We have about 20 breweries in Davidson County/Nashville. The scene is very solid but not on the level of Cincy. Whiskey is likely a bigger deal hear.

I'm not a big fan of IPA's, but anything from The Alchemist in Stowe, VT is phenomenal. My favorite is Focal Banger.

Fuzzy Baby Ducks, by New England Brewing Co here in CT is another great one. I'll likely be moving out of state for grad school in the summer, and it's one of the few things I'll miss, lol.

The Alchemist (particularly its Heady Topper) is good, but Vermont's Lawson's and Hill Farmstead are both head and shoulders above the Alchemist for the most part. In fact, Hill typically has at least 5 of the top 20 beers in the world according to the Beer Advocate.

Lawson's is definitely a great brewery. When Sip of Sunshine first came out, it was the type of thing people rushed to the store to get and told all of their friends about around here. It never lasted a day in the stores. They stated licensing the recipe to NEB Co though, and now it's pretty common and not as highly regarded. That may be why I have more of an affinity for The Alchemist, it's just more rare and thus feels like more of a delicacy lol.

Heady Topper is phenomenal as well. I think that's my dad's favorite beer if I'm not mistaken.

Tree House in Massachusetts is another great brewery. It just sucks because they don't sell anything they make outside of their main brewery, so you have to take a trip there if you want any of their products. Definitely worth doing from time to time though.

I have always loved Lawson's Sip of Sunshine. I hope that the quality is still as good even though it is more available. Now that I am in southwest Ohio, and therefore close to Kentucky, I have become a big bourbon fan. My favorite (barely affordable) bourbon is EH Taylor Single Barrel made by Buffalo Trace Distillery in Frankfort, Kentucky. It is very hard to find around here, and much more available in NE (like the State stores in NH) where I stock up whenever I am back east. Buffalo Trace is significantly increasing its distilling capacity, so I am hopeful that it will become easier to find and (maybe) even less expensive. I don't expect its quality to be compromised.
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RE: Bubble Watch 2020
Well, when Wichita State joined the American in 2017, reports started coming out in March of that year. They were ultimately voted-in in April. If the timeline is to be similar - and, to be clear, Wichita was a responsive measure due to the lack of on-court basketball success other than UConn up to that point - then you'd have to think if there is movement before next year, the pieces are likely already in play (especially due to UConn leaving and the AAC's struggles this year). Where I have my doubts is on the following points:

- Dayton (and SLU) would undoubtedly much rather be in the BE than the AAC. This is due to institutional fit, athletic fit, geographic fit and cultural fit. Would the AAC risk adding a member that would inevitably get poached by the BE again? Losing UConn to the BE significantly hurt its perception. Not sure Presidents/ADs/Coaches want to go down that path again.
- Up until this point, there is no evidence (again, thus far) that a team would jump from the A10 to the AAC. I discussed this with Stever earlier, but until we know the breakdown of payments/tournament credits/etc. of being in the A10 to the AAC (where only Wichita State would likely provide a likely comparison), it is a substantial assumption that anyone in the A10 would immediately jump to the AAC. I'm not saying it won't happen, but I don't think it's a sure thing either. Gonzaga turned down the MWC. Lateral moves within non-power conferences are not always so easy as they seem to fans. The pay might be a little bit better, but other costs - both financial and non-financial - come into play.
- The A10 is still a multi-bid league, which is different that Wichita State leaving the MVC (single bid). VCU, as an example, would be adding on significantly more travel for Olympic sports (and move to a Southern-based league) just for basketball; however, has the A10 really held back VCU from competing for tournament bids or advancing in the tournament (I'd say no). For SLU/UD, you become the only Catholic schools in a predominantly Public/Southern conference, many of whom do not prioritize basketball. I'm just not sure it's a sure thing as some have made it out to be.

As an outsider, I do think it is in the best interest for the AAC to add a full-member to get to 12 (and not a stop-gap non-football member until a better option reveals itself). Wichita State filled a need and a role at that point in time (and balanced Navy's football-only membership). We know that Army, BYU, and no one from the MWC is jumping ship (as it would have happened already, since the AAC would take one of those in a heartbeat). Thus, that leaves the one conference where a majority of the AAC plucked its members from: C-USA. I've seen recommendations like Old Dominion, UMass, Liberty, etc. tossed around, but - in my mind - the easiest and best candidate is one that has shared history with many of the AAC already: UAB. They are building a brand-new downtown football stadium, they already built a brand new practice facility, they are not only in the footprint, but established a clear epicenter for the conference, and they bring a solid basketball program (and nice arena too). They also are a nationally ranked academic university. When Memphis and Cincinnati were/are top-15 programs in basketball, their arena averages over 9k. Birmingham is also in a heavily football recruited state, and fits in with the Southern/urban identity the AAC has taken on. Give them a few years in elevated TV payouts, and it would be a strong investment by the AAC for both football and men's basketball IMO.
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