(01-24-2020 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  IMO, Boise isn't joining the AAC. They are likely going indy and getting a separate ESPN deal, just like BYU. With Oly sports in the WCC, just like BYU.

Indy makes no sense for them or really anyone not named ND. They'd be effectively locked out of the NY6 bowls with the only real hope of getting in if they're voted in the top 4 for the CFP. Just like BYU is - although BYU has a different mission and can at least command a decent enough TV deal purely on their own.

(01-24-2020 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  IMO, Boise isn't joining the AAC. They are likely going indy and getting a separate ESPN deal, just like BYU. With Oly sports in the WCC, just like BYU.

No offense but no way in hell is Boise State going indy. Zip, zero, zilch.

(01-24-2020 02:19 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 02:12 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  If BSU wants full membership or more $ than anyone else than let them enjoy MWC, where a one loss AAC will get NY bowl. Let them rot in their little fish bowl.

LOL, okay tough guy.

I believe Boise State would accept equal revenue distribution if the number was high enough to mitigate the travel. But I don't believe they'll consider moving to the AAC unless there's a true western division. Wouldn't make sense for either side.

I don't think it makes sense for either side, good. Stay in MWC where everyone hates you and is biting at bit to make BSU an equal share.

BSU is anti-UCONN, good at FB yet not worth it for other sports considering travel. I don't want AAC to go west period, nation wide conferences don't work from rivalry standpoint and fan interest.

NOT tough guy but AAC has built a great conference and we don't need BSU to be competitive in FB and don't want them for any other sports.

(01-24-2020 04:45 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 02:19 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 02:12 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  If BSU wants full membership or more $ than anyone else than let them enjoy MWC, where a one loss AAC will get NY bowl. Let them rot in their little fish bowl.

LOL, okay tough guy.

I believe Boise State would accept equal revenue distribution if the number was high enough to mitigate the travel. But I don't believe they'll consider moving to the AAC unless there's a true western division. Wouldn't make sense for either side.

I don't think it makes sense for either side, good. Stay in MWC where everyone hates you and is biting at bit to make BSU an equal share.

BSU is anti-UCONN, good at FB yet not worth it for other sports considering travel. I don't want AAC to go west period, nation wide conferences don't work from rivalry standpoint and fan interest.

NOT tough guy but AAC has built a great conference and we don't need BSU to be competitive in FB and don't want them for any other sports.

You afraid Boise will take your national championship trophy?

(01-24-2020 04:15 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:02 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 03:06 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 03:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 02:24 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  For the move to happen it would obviously have to be mutually beneficial for the long-term. A 12 school hybrid doesn't accomplish that. Wouldn't be good for the AAC or Boise State.

Therein lies the rub. It's hard for me to see how Boise coming by themselves makes this work. And Boise going independent blocks access to a NY6 bowl. I think Boise has to bring along two of its Mountain West Conference mates and come in with all sports.

Completely agree.

Boise isn’t a great university and really only brings football and don’t even think they are a top 5 in our league. With that being said I would settle for
Boise
BYU
SDSU
Gonzaga b-ball only.
Dayton b-ball only
This should get us a pay raise then can creat divisions to make travel work. No sweet heart deals for anyone except maybe BYU on Sunday.

LOL.

Let’s see you lost to BYU who lost to our 8th place team USF. Lol maybe top 9 team at best. You will get skull drug in the American, stay out west with that low pay small fry

https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2020/1/2...esco-media
Interesting take about BSU’s rivals and them having a similar situation to UConn being on an island.

(01-24-2020 04:45 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 02:19 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 02:12 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  If BSU wants full membership or more $ than anyone else than let them enjoy MWC, where a one loss AAC will get NY bowl. Let them rot in their little fish bowl.

LOL, okay tough guy.

I believe Boise State would accept equal revenue distribution if the number was high enough to mitigate the travel. But I don't believe they'll consider moving to the AAC unless there's a true western division. Wouldn't make sense for either side.

I don't think it makes sense for either side, good. Stay in MWC where everyone hates you and is biting at bit to make BSU an equal share.

BSU is anti-UCONN, good at FB yet not worth it for other sports considering travel. I don't want AAC to go west period, nation wide conferences don't work from rivalry standpoint and fan interest.

NOT tough guy but AAC has built a great conference and we don't need BSU to be competitive in FB and don't want them for any other sports.

In all likelihood, things will settle down and the two sides will reach a compromise. But you and your high horse ... laughable.

(01-24-2020 05:10 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:15 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:02 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 03:06 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 03:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Therein lies the rub. It's hard for me to see how Boise coming by themselves makes this work. And Boise going independent blocks access to a NY6 bowl. I think Boise has to bring along two of its Mountain West Conference mates and come in with all sports.

Completely agree.

Boise isn’t a great university and really only brings football and don’t even think they are a top 5 in our league. With that being said I would settle for
Boise
BYU
SDSU
Gonzaga b-ball only.
Dayton b-ball only
This should get us a pay raise then can creat divisions to make travel work. No sweet heart deals for anyone except maybe BYU on Sunday.

LOL.

Let’s see you lost to BYU who lost to our 8th place team USF. Lol maybe top 9 team at best. You will get skull drug in the American, stay out west with that low pay small fry

LOL -- Boise State would do just fine in the AAC from a competitive standpoint. Looking forward to demonstrating that against UCF soon.

imo boise means to much to the mwc..

something interesting that could happen...Boise likely strong arms the mwc to keep getting special deals...frustrated mwc member (NOT boise) reaches out to the aac to join

interesting facts in my theory: sdsu never wanted to leave the aac...all member not named a boise voted to end the deal..meaning all members including sdsu, unlv and air force want it ended.....air force already says they dont fit the MWC.. 2 unknown members voted to end the Boise deal today.
Boise is the most valuable member of the mwc, to go against them behind their backs means this most have been import to other schools (per schools its only a 200-300k difference, not big in bigger picture, it must be on principle)..note sdsu has been more successful in football and basketball than Boise since the deal

conclusion: everyone is looking at Boise to leave...why would Boise leave..the mwc needs them more than they need the mwc...their new tv deal gives all the exposure to Boise...the MWC tv contract likely void if Boise left

mwc likely to fold to boise, they have before

we are looking for a 12th member there are 5 or 6 mwc members not named boise we would take just to fill the void. who currently get to no exposure in their new tv deal (fs2 and cbssports) for less money

(01-24-2020 05:19 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2020/1/2...esco-media
Interesting take about BSU’s rivals and them having a similar situation to UConn being on an island.

TCU quickly became a rival in the MWC shortly after they joined, despite the lack of real history with any of the conference schools (previous 3-year stint in the 16-team WAC) and being on a geographic island.

It's amazing what a competitive program can do.

(01-24-2020 05:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  imo boise means to much to the mwc..

something interesting that could happen...Boise likely strong arms the mwc to keep getting special deals...frustrated mwc member (NOT boise) reaches out to the aac to join

interesting facts in my theory: sdsu never wanted to leave the aac...all member not named a boise voted to end the deal..meaning all members including sdsu, unlv and air force want it ended.....air force already says they dont fit the MWC.. 2 unknown members voted to end the Boise deal today.
Boise is the most valuable member of the mwc, to go against them behind their backs means this most have been import to other schools (per schools its only a 200-300k difference, not big in bigger picture, it must be on principle)..note sdsu has been more successful in football and basketball than Boise since the deal

conclusion: everyone is looking at Boise to leave...why would Boise leave..the mwc needs them more than they need the mwc...their new tv deal gives all the exposure to Boise...the MWC tv contract likely void if Boise left

mwc likely to fold to boise, they have before

we are looking for a 12th member there are 5 or 6 mwc members not named boise we would take just to fill the void. who currently get to no exposure in their new tv deal (fs2 and cbssports) for less money

The only MWC member the AAC has a chance of luring to a 12 school hybrid league is Air Force. Nobody else is going to go without an all sports western division.

(01-24-2020 05:53 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  imo boise means to much to the mwc..

something interesting that could happen...Boise likely strong arms the mwc to keep getting special deals...frustrated mwc member (NOT boise) reaches out to the aac to join

interesting facts in my theory: sdsu never wanted to leave the aac...all member not named a boise voted to end the deal..meaning all members including sdsu, unlv and air force want it ended.....air force already says they dont fit the MWC.. 2 unknown members voted to end the Boise deal today.
Boise is the most valuable member of the mwc, to go against them behind their backs means this most have been import to other schools (per schools its only a 200-300k difference, not big in bigger picture, it must be on principle)..note sdsu has been more successful in football and basketball than Boise since the deal

conclusion: everyone is looking at Boise to leave...why would Boise leave..the mwc needs them more than they need the mwc...their new tv deal gives all the exposure to Boise...the MWC tv contract likely void if Boise left

mwc likely to fold to boise, they have before

we are looking for a 12th member there are 5 or 6 mwc members not named boise we would take just to fill the void. who currently get to no exposure in their new tv deal (fs2 and cbssports) for less money

The only MWC member the AAC has a chance of luring to a 12 school hybrid league is Air Force. Nobody else is going to go without an all sports western division.

My cousin works in the AD’s office of a MWC school and told me who has contacted us. Your statement is incorrect

Scroll through the thousands of posts to see the school(s) and I’m not terribly thrilled by them either.

(01-24-2020 05:53 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  imo boise means to much to the mwc..

something interesting that could happen...Boise likely strong arms the mwc to keep getting special deals...frustrated mwc member (NOT boise) reaches out to the aac to join

interesting facts in my theory: sdsu never wanted to leave the aac...all member not named a boise voted to end the deal..meaning all members including sdsu, unlv and air force want it ended.....air force already says they dont fit the MWC.. 2 unknown members voted to end the Boise deal today.
Boise is the most valuable member of the mwc, to go against them behind their backs means this most have been import to other schools (per schools its only a 200-300k difference, not big in bigger picture, it must be on principle)..note sdsu has been more successful in football and basketball than Boise since the deal

conclusion: everyone is looking at Boise to leave...why would Boise leave..the mwc needs them more than they need the mwc...their new tv deal gives all the exposure to Boise...the MWC tv contract likely void if Boise left

mwc likely to fold to boise, they have before

we are looking for a 12th member there are 5 or 6 mwc members not named boise we would take just to fill the void. who currently get to no exposure in their new tv deal (fs2 and cbssports) for less money

The only MWC member the AAC has a chance of luring to a 12 school hybrid league is Air Force. Nobody else is going to go without an all sports western division.

sdsu legitimately never wanted to leave, bsu forced their hand...and has a wcc invite..sdsu is sill technically a member of the aac, in 2 non revenue sports and in communication with aac administration regularly

csu is close enough to not need a true western division and can just fit in the current west

(01-24-2020 06:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:53 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  imo boise means to much to the mwc..

something interesting that could happen...Boise likely strong arms the mwc to keep getting special deals...frustrated mwc member (NOT boise) reaches out to the aac to join

interesting facts in my theory: sdsu never wanted to leave the aac...all member not named a boise voted to end the deal..meaning all members including sdsu, unlv and air force want it ended.....air force already says they dont fit the MWC.. 2 unknown members voted to end the Boise deal today.
Boise is the most valuable member of the mwc, to go against them behind their backs means this most have been import to other schools (per schools its only a 200-300k difference, not big in bigger picture, it must be on principle)..note sdsu has been more successful in football and basketball than Boise since the deal

conclusion: everyone is looking at Boise to leave...why would Boise leave..the mwc needs them more than they need the mwc...their new tv deal gives all the exposure to Boise...the MWC tv contract likely void if Boise left

mwc likely to fold to boise, they have before

we are looking for a 12th member there are 5 or 6 mwc members not named boise we would take just to fill the void. who currently get to no exposure in their new tv deal (fs2 and cbssports) for less money

The only MWC member the AAC has a chance of luring to a 12 school hybrid league is Air Force. Nobody else is going to go without an all sports western division.

sdsu legitimately never wanted to leave, bsu forced their hand...and has a wcc invite..sdsu is sill technically a member of the aac, in 2 non revenue sports and in communication with aac administration regularly

csu is close enough to not need a true western division and can just fit in the current west

Boise State forced their hand? LOL

(01-24-2020 06:04 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 06:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:53 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  imo boise means to much to the mwc..

something interesting that could happen...Boise likely strong arms the mwc to keep getting special deals...frustrated mwc member (NOT boise) reaches out to the aac to join

interesting facts in my theory: sdsu never wanted to leave the aac...all member not named a boise voted to end the deal..meaning all members including sdsu, unlv and air force want it ended.....air force already says they dont fit the MWC.. 2 unknown members voted to end the Boise deal today.
Boise is the most valuable member of the mwc, to go against them behind their backs means this most have been import to other schools (per schools its only a 200-300k difference, not big in bigger picture, it must be on principle)..note sdsu has been more successful in football and basketball than Boise since the deal

conclusion: everyone is looking at Boise to leave...why would Boise leave..the mwc needs them more than they need the mwc...their new tv deal gives all the exposure to Boise...the MWC tv contract likely void if Boise left

mwc likely to fold to boise, they have before

we are looking for a 12th member there are 5 or 6 mwc members not named boise we would take just to fill the void. who currently get to no exposure in their new tv deal (fs2 and cbssports) for less money

The only MWC member the AAC has a chance of luring to a 12 school hybrid league is Air Force. Nobody else is going to go without an all sports western division.

sdsu legitimately never wanted to leave, bsu forced their hand...and has a wcc invite..sdsu is sill technically a member of the aac, in 2 non revenue sports and in communication with aac administration regularly

csu is close enough to not need a true western division and can just fit in the current west

Boise State forced their hand? LOL

They contacted us many, many months ago

(01-24-2020 06:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 06:04 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 06:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:53 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 05:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  imo boise means to much to the mwc..

something interesting that could happen...Boise likely strong arms the mwc to keep getting special deals...frustrated mwc member (NOT boise) reaches out to the aac to join

interesting facts in my theory: sdsu never wanted to leave the aac...all member not named a boise voted to end the deal..meaning all members including sdsu, unlv and air force want it ended.....air force already says they dont fit the MWC.. 2 unknown members voted to end the Boise deal today.
Boise is the most valuable member of the mwc, to go against them behind their backs means this most have been import to other schools (per schools its only a 200-300k difference, not big in bigger picture, it must be on principle)..note sdsu has been more successful in football and basketball than Boise since the deal

conclusion: everyone is looking at Boise to leave...why would Boise leave..the mwc needs them more than they need the mwc...their new tv deal gives all the exposure to Boise...the MWC tv contract likely void if Boise left

mwc likely to fold to boise, they have before

we are looking for a 12th member there are 5 or 6 mwc members not named boise we would take just to fill the void. who currently get to no exposure in their new tv deal (fs2 and cbssports) for less money

The only MWC member the AAC has a chance of luring to a 12 school hybrid league is Air Force. Nobody else is going to go without an all sports western division.

sdsu legitimately never wanted to leave, bsu forced their hand...and has a wcc invite..sdsu is sill technically a member of the aac, in 2 non revenue sports and in communication with aac administration regularly

csu is close enough to not need a true western division and can just fit in the current west

Boise State forced their hand? LOL

They contacted us many, many months ago

Sorry, not following .. ?

(01-24-2020 04:40 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  IMO, Boise isn't joining the AAC. They are likely going indy and getting a separate ESPN deal, just like BYU. With Oly sports in the WCC, just like BYU.

No offense but no way in hell is Boise State going indy. Zip, zero, zilch.

No offense taken. Is this something you know from a legit source, or just your opinion?

(01-24-2020 06:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:40 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  IMO, Boise isn't joining the AAC. They are likely going indy and getting a separate ESPN deal, just like BYU. With Oly sports in the WCC, just like BYU.

No offense but no way in hell is Boise State going indy. Zip, zero, zilch.

No offense taken. Is this something you know from a legit source, or just your opinion?

If Boise goes Indy, the better for the AAC. That would mean they do not get a chance to play in the Access Bowl. This is also why many believe they would not go Independent.

(01-24-2020 06:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:40 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  IMO, Boise isn't joining the AAC. They are likely going indy and getting a separate ESPN deal, just like BYU. With Oly sports in the WCC, just like BYU.

No offense but no way in hell is Boise State going indy. Zip, zero, zilch.

No offense taken. Is this something you know from a legit source, or just your opinion?

My family knows the AD and in just informal discussions it's clear that indy is unsustainable for Boise State. BYU can pull it off because of the resources they have at their disposal and they have a different charter. NMSU has to do it because they have no other choice. Scheduling would be a nightmare and the oly programs would end up in the same undesirable situation as they would if the football program joined a 12 school AAC.

(01-24-2020 06:16 PM)Someone_Else Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 06:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:40 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  IMO, Boise isn't joining the AAC. They are likely going indy and getting a separate ESPN deal, just like BYU. With Oly sports in the WCC, just like BYU.

No offense but no way in hell is Boise State going indy. Zip, zero, zilch.

No offense taken. Is this something you know from a legit source, or just your opinion?

If Boise goes Indy, the better for the AAC. That would mean they do not get a chance to play in the Access Bowl. This is also why many believe they would not go Independent.

Correct.