(11-21-2019 12:35 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When your argument we’ve playing the 84th hardest schedule you’ve already lost.

Not when your arguing with the guy with the #115th hardest schedule.

(11-21-2019 12:35 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When your argument we’ve playing the 84th hardest schedule you’ve already lost.

When you've played the "115th" ranked Schedule, you shouldn't be arguing in the first place.

Teams in the top 25 would have the same record playing either sub-par schedule which is the point. You guys are splitting hairs with this. If you lined up the five ranked G5 members and played a round robin, I doubt anyone would have four wins, three would be impressive.

Then you turn the committee who is biased toward P5 wins lose and guess who’s on top? The one with two. Is anyone honestly surprised by this?

Can everyone here agree both App and SMU should be ranked higher than a four loss Southern Cal?

(11-21-2019 12:09 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 11:10 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 12:45 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  Always fun to watch the hypocrisy of AAC football fans. You're not mad the system is unfair. You're just mad you're not in the club.

So, Wichita State doesn't play football and, you think that pushing for football inclusion at a higher level which also means more money for basketball is the wrong thing for our commissioner to do?

No. I don't. And I also didn't say that.

What I think is hypocritical is AAC football fans spending years whining about strength of schedule trumping actual wins who then turn around and do the exact same thing to teams like App State. App State isn't the enemy. Clemson is.

As I said, you're not mad the system is unfair, you're just mad you're not in the group in power.

Perhaps so, I read is him pushing full throttle for the AAC, he also mentioned the rest of the G5 and want for all FBS teams to to have equal access and to be judged by the same standards.

Aresco took particular exception to No. 25 SMU's ranking behind No. 24 Appalachian State this week. He also disagreed with the Mustangs sitting behind No. 20 Boise State and two four-loss Power 5 teams, No. 22 Iowa State and No. 23 USC.

"We've been fighting what I think is a P5 preference," Aresco said. "We've been fighting it for years and we're fighting now a double standard when it comes to evaluating G5 teams."

"We've been fighting what I think is a P5 preference," Aresco said. "We've been fighting it for years and we're fighting now a double standard when it comes to evaluating G5 teams."

(11-21-2019 12:35 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When your argument we’ve playing the 84th hardest schedule you’ve already lost.

True.
App should be ahead of Boise and right there with Memphis and Cincy. If both have two losses then App should be the representative.

I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

(11-21-2019 09:27 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 08:21 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 12:39 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 10:35 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  Aresco is 100% correct. I said the same thing in the CFP thread for this week. How on earth is SMU behind Boise and App State? It's a joke. They lost to a ranked team on the road. One loss. I saw the app Georgia Southern game. No way that team could be at the top of our conference. Temple Navy UCF and Tulane would be ahead of them. Forget the ranked teams.

Now I know why Aresco is your commissioner, because he cries as much as all you guys do.

App St plays in a JV conference. Don’t come over here barking bc you’re going to get called out. Just look at the teams you play dude.

I know who we play. Doesn’t change what App can do. Just like you guys argued for UCF in 2017.

Also doesn’t change the fact that Aresco is a cry baby. Look at the thread on r/CFB about it. Fans from every other conference not named AAC think the dude is making you look like clowns.

Dude, i think you said eough about how you really feel about the AAC why don't you take your weak @55 out of here.

Door is F that way -------->

(11-21-2019 09:27 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  I know who we play. Doesn’t change what App can do. Just like you guys argued for UCF in 2017.

No doubt, but that's not the question. Why should App State get the nod over an AAC champ with a better resume?

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

I don't. I think App St would be hard pressed to be Bowl eligible in the AAC.

(11-21-2019 01:04 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

I don't. I think App St would be hard pressed to be Bowl eligible in the AAC.

Bowl eligible? Could they beat UConn?

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

Memphis and Cincy control their destiny no doubt about it, likely even a two loss Memphis or Cincy who avenges their second loss in the title game still goes. But they do love Boise's story.

Would love to see Temple or UCF slide into the championship game.

(11-21-2019 12:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 12:35 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When your argument we’ve playing the 84th hardest schedule you’ve already lost.

Not when your arguing with the guy with the #115th hardest schedule.

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

They have a decent OOC schedule but than they face weak IC opponents... I don't know where or how you think they're "Damn Good".

(11-21-2019 12:46 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Teams in the top 25 would have the same record playing either sub-par schedule which is the point. You guys are splitting hairs with this. If you lined up the five ranked G5 members and played a round robin, I doubt anyone would have four wins, three would be impressive.

Then you turn the committee who is biased toward P5 wins lose and guess who’s on top? The one with two. Is anyone honestly surprised by this?

Can everyone here agree both App and SMU should be ranked higher than a four loss Southern Cal?

Except they don't have the same record playing similar sub par teams. Memphis lost to a good Temple team. SMU lost to a really good Memphis team. Cincinnati lost to the current #1 team and a probable play off team. All losses were on the road.

Boise lost to BYU (who had a losing record at the time) a likely 6-6 or 7-5. On the road.
App St lost to Georgia State 6-4. At home.

These things are not the same. SMU and Cincinnati lost to ranked opponents on the road., they both have p5 wins. Cincy has large point wins over a MAC divisional champ at home, the leading team of CUSA division on the road, and a p5 win. Memphis lost to a currently 7-3 team on the road, Memphis has beat a ranked team and a P5 team. BSU lost to a team with a losing record on the road, beat a p5 team, has a tight win at home over a CUSA division leader. App St lost at home to a decent team, beat two p5 teams.

(11-21-2019 01:12 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

They have a decent OOC schedule but than they face weak IC opponents... I don't know where or how you think they're "Damn Good".

They're outscoring their opponents 38.4 to 19.9, and have two wins over P5's. I'd call that "damn good".

(11-21-2019 01:04 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

I don't. I think App St would be hard pressed to be Bowl eligible in the AAC.

If you seriously believe that, you're drinking too much American kool-aid.

(11-21-2019 01:21 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:04 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

I don't. I think App St would be hard pressed to be Bowl eligible in the AAC.

If you seriously believe that, you're drinking to much American kool-aid.

App State is pretty good. Maybe even good enough to be in the Top 6 of the AAC, but not sure. Boise State looks extremely mediocre.

(11-21-2019 01:19 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:12 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:01 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  I think most reasonable AAC folk will agree that App State is pretty damn good. Having said that, it's probable that our champ is going to have a better resume than Boise/App State.

They have a decent OOC schedule but than they face weak IC opponents... I don't know where or how you think they're "Damn Good".

They're outscoring their opponents 38.4 to 19.9, and have two wins over P5's. I'd call that "damn good".

Sorry brah but I think you just insulted "damn good".

(11-21-2019 01:26 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Sorry brah but I think you just insulted "damn good".

With respect, it's exactly the sort of resume we would have been touting for our champ prior to this season. App State is worthy of respect. It's just bad luck for them that the AAC is having it's best season ever.

(11-21-2019 01:34 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 01:26 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Sorry brah but I think you just insulted "damn good".

With respect, it's exactly the sort of resume we would have been touting for our champ prior to this season. App State is worthy of respect. It's just bad luck for them that the AAC is having it's best season ever.

I'm with you. They are having a damn good year.