Seems like a slam dunk at this point that Cincy will represent the East in the CCG, but what happens if they lose back to back to Temple and Memphis?

This could create a scenario where there'd potentially be a 3 way tie for the division with Cincy, UCF, and Temple, and it seems the tiebreakers could get complicated.

This is assuming that Temple and UCF win out, which also possibly a stretch - Temple could lose Saturday to Tulane and make this all a moot point.

Quote:Team selection
Division standings are based on each team's overall conference record. In the event that two teams are tied, head-to head competition would break the tie. If the two teams did not play, division record will be used to determine the divisional champion. If three or more teams are tied, the following tiebreakers are used to determine the divisional champion:

The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two-team tie-breaking procedure (head-to-head result) will be applied.

1. Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams).
2. Record in games played within the division.
3. Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all Conference games, both divisional and non-divisional).
4. Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in divisional games).
5. Record against common non-divisional opponents.
6. Best overall winning percentage in all games.
7. Highest CFP ranking following the last weekend of regular-season games.
8. Coin toss.
   

Item 1 would be a tie, with UCF over Temple, Temple over Cincy, and Cincy over UCF.

Item 2 would be a tie, with each team having one loss in the division.

I don't think I understand items 3 and 4.

Could this really come down to the CFP rankings, and, assuming none of the 3 would be in the CFP rankings with 3 losses each, a coin toss?

Hoping this doesn't come out this way, but interesting to think about.

Bearcats aren't losing to Temple.

You just said beetlejuice...here they come.

(11-15-2019 09:08 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bearcats aren't losing to Temple.

Yea, that'd be a crazy outcome for sure. Like the last 4 games.

(11-15-2019 09:25 AM)knightz03 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 09:08 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Bearcats aren't losing to Temple.

Yea, that'd be a crazy outcome for sure. Like the last 4 games.

Lose twice?

Did Lawrence Taylor and Barry Sanders just walk on at Temple?

(11-15-2019 09:39 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Lose twice?

Did Lawrence Taylor and Barry Sanders just walk on at Temple?

I mean we all know Temple didn't really "win" the last four games, Cincy lost those games. Just hope UC doesn't overlook and play down to Temple for a 5th straight year.

Temple is the only team to beat Memphis, and Cincy nearly lost to ECU. It wouldn't be shocking if Temple beat Cincy.

It also wouldn't be shocking if Tulane beat Temple and UCF to give us both a 3rd conference loss

(11-15-2019 09:56 AM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 09:39 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Lose twice?

Did Lawrence Taylor and Barry Sanders just walk on at Temple?

I mean we all know Temple didn't really "win" the last four games, Cincy lost those games. Just hope UC doesn't overlook and play down to Temple for a 5th straight year.

I know this is bait, but it's bad bait.

Temple was better than UC in 2016 and 2017....significantly better. Last year they were not, but were at home and had the refs swing the game 10 points on two plays (FG taken off board for literally no reason, and gift TD on incomplete pass). 2015 Temple was better than UC as well...not significantly better, but better. The only result UC fans really complain about was last years because the game was legitimately stolen.

Item 3 suggests that Temple would advance because they beat West Champ Memphis.

(11-15-2019 10:11 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Item 3 suggests that Temple would advance because they beat West Champ Memphis.

I thought that too but couldn't tell for sure, poorly worded. Of all of the potential rematches we could see in the CCG I guess that's not the worst outcome for the conference - gives Memphis a chance to avenge it's only loss.

Would be a disastrous outcome for the Conference if Temple won that though.

At this point lets let it ride out and have Cincinnati and Memphis win out; The winner of the CCG will represent the conference well in the NY6 game.

Besides McMurphy already called it for Memphis...

(11-15-2019 10:48 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  At this point lets let it ride out and have Cincinnati and Memphis win out; The winner of the CCG will represent the conference well in the NY6 game.

Besides McMurphy already called it for Memphis...

It's going to be very difficult for both Memphis and Cincinnati to win out... but I agree with the sentiment.

Ideally Cincinnati wins out. Either Navy or SMU win out. Cincinnati hosts the winner of Navy/SMU for the conference title and takes care of business.

I’m more worried about how we play against Tulane and UConn. Not worried about beating Cincinnati again, we’ve owned them for years.

(11-15-2019 11:12 AM)vick mike Wrote:  I’m more worried about how we play against Tulane and UConn. Not worried about beating Cincinnati again, we’ve owned them for years.

Good post... though I'd say worrying about uconn for a single second is a waste.

I tend to think Memphis or SMU has a better shot at performing well in the Access Bowl as opposed to Cincinnati. My preference for that game is a team that can win it, and I have doubts about Cincinnati being able to do so.

(11-15-2019 11:43 AM)knightz03 Wrote:  I tend to think Memphis or SMU has a better shot at performing well in the Access Bowl as opposed to Cincinnati. My preference for that game is a team that can win it, and I have doubts about Cincinnati being able to do so.

I hate to say it, but I have to agree. Cincinnati is a defense-first kind of team, and while I do think we can hold a good opponent in the Cotton Bowl to around 30 points, I don't know if we can score 30 on them. We held OSU to 42, which was their 3rd-lowest total of the season next to Wisconsin and Michigan State, but we got shut out. Of course whoever plays in the Cotton Bowl won't be as good as OSU, but I still don't like our chances to put up enough points to win the game. Memphis and SMU would probably have a better chance because they would make the game a shootout.

(11-15-2019 10:11 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Item 3 suggests that Temple would advance because they beat West Champ Memphis.

No, it says record against next highest placed team IN THE DIVISION. That almost certainly will be So Florida.

They lost to Temple already, but they still play UC and UCF, and will likely lose to both. So move to #4, and so on.

(11-15-2019 11:57 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 11:43 AM)knightz03 Wrote:  I tend to think Memphis or SMU has a better shot at performing well in the Access Bowl as opposed to Cincinnati. My preference for that game is a team that can win it, and I have doubts about Cincinnati being able to do so.

I hate to say it, but I have to agree. Cincinnati is a defense-first kind of team, and while I do think we can hold a good opponent in the Cotton Bowl to around 30 points, I don't know if we can score 30 on them. We held OSU to 42, which was their 3rd-lowest total of the season next to Wisconsin and Michigan State, but we got shut out. Of course whoever plays in the Cotton Bowl won't be as good as OSU, but I still don't like our chances to put up enough points to win the game. Memphis and SMU would probably have a better chance because they would make the game a shootout.

Yes, exactly. Wasn't my intention to slight Cincinnati as I think they're having an excellent season, but I think SMU and Memphis have offenses that can keep up. That said, if the Cotton Bowl opponent is a team like Baylor I think any AAC rep should beat them. No offense to Matt Rhule, but that team hasn't really beaten anyone of note.