(11-13-2019 09:42 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:11 PM)App10 Wrote:  App has the 3 best wins in the G5. UNC, USC, and yes ULL. It’s actually BS we’re not ranked higher. Navy’s schedule has been pathetic and Boise doesn’t have as good a resume. I can live with Cincy and Memphis ahead at this moment but there’s a very strong case App should be the highest ranked G5.

Keep in mind that we are absolutely terrible at this. Half of our defensive players are those cardboard action movie figures that they set up at the movie theater.

Surely you pay enough attention to College Football to know UNC of last year and UNC of this year are completely different teams, right?

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:52 PM)bucblizzard Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:29 PM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:21 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  In other words, not a single Top 25 win, and your 3 best G5 wins are all teams with losing records?

Man I’m not trying to come around here throwing stones so I’ll just leave it at not all top 25 teams are created equal, and there’s probably a reason why a team isn’t ranked in the top 25 anymore. I don’t think it’s irrational to believe that our two wins are better than anything Memphis or Cincy has done so far.

Memphis is the only team to beat SMU and Navy, I don't get your reasoning.

Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

(11-13-2019 10:03 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:52 PM)bucblizzard Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:29 PM)App10 Wrote:  Man I’m not trying to come around here throwing stones so I’ll just leave it at not all top 25 teams are created equal, and there’s probably a reason why a team isn’t ranked in the top 25 anymore. I don’t think it’s irrational to believe that our two wins are better than anything Memphis or Cincy has done so far.

Memphis is the only team to beat SMU and Navy, I don't get your reasoning.

Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

At least their best win isn't in the Sunbelt or some 5 loss ACC team... and their worse loss isn't to Georgia Southern. You also missed that they beat Air Force, who beat Colorado and only has losses to Boise State and Navy (both who should be ranked... especially ahead of App St.)

(11-13-2019 09:58 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:23 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:11 PM)App10 Wrote:  App has the 3 best wins in the G5. UNC, USC, and yes ULL. It’s actually BS we’re not ranked higher. Navy’s schedule has been pathetic and Boise doesn’t have as good a resume. I can live with Cincy and Memphis ahead at this moment but there’s a very strong case App should be the highest ranked G5.

Lmao. TCU is a better win that any team you just mentioned, and App just leapfrogged the team that beat them...

In what way is TCU a better win than USC or UNC? I’ve seen JV teams in Texas with better offenses. If anything they’re more similar wins than not, and App has 2 of those wins. But i guess your “lmao” means you’re right!

The "lmao" had nothing to do with defending any argument I made; it was simply me laughing at your ridiculous comment that 2 teams under .500 were the best "G5" wins of the season. I thought that was fairly obvious...

I would agree they are comparable wins, but TCU is yet to lose to a team that is .500 or worse. Their worst lost is to a 5-4 Iowa State team, and they lost their past 2 games by a combined 13 points to teams that are currently ranked in the CFP. I know almost is only good in horseshoes and hand grenades, so I'm not trying to pump up those losses as anything special, merely point out they aren't getting blown out by these teams. They've also beaten a ranked Texas team. Let's compare that to the 2 teams you're saying are the "best G5 wins."

South Carolina: They've beaten a very good Georgia team, but were also blown out a garbage Tennessee team and lost to a below average UNC. I'll take the team with 1 good win and no losses to teams below .500 over the team with 1 good win and 2 losses to teams below .500

UNC: Their best win is Miami. Most of their losses have been close, but so have most of their wins. They're just not a very good football team. So they have no bad losses, but their best win is a 6-4 Miami team. I'll take a win over Texas against a win over Miami if we're comparing records.

The strength of record for all 3 teams: TCU (55), South Carolina (58), UNC (61). Comparable, but a slight edge to TCU.

As you said, they're comparable wins, but TCU not losing to any bad teams while still having a win over a ranked Texas team gives them a slight edge when comparing records. But even saying the wins are comparable largely refutes your point that USC and UNC are "the best G5 wins."

(11-13-2019 09:59 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 09:42 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:11 PM)App10 Wrote:  App has the 3 best wins in the G5. UNC, USC, and yes ULL. It’s actually BS we’re not ranked higher. Navy’s schedule has been pathetic and Boise doesn’t have as good a resume. I can live with Cincy and Memphis ahead at this moment but there’s a very strong case App should be the highest ranked G5.

Keep in mind that we are absolutely terrible at this. Half of our defensive players are those cardboard action movie figures that they set up at the movie theater.

Surely you pay enough attention to College Football to know UNC of last year and UNC of this year are completely different teams, right?

Can you tell which one is our actual free safety?

(11-13-2019 10:03 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:52 PM)bucblizzard Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:29 PM)App10 Wrote:  Man I’m not trying to come around here throwing stones so I’ll just leave it at not all top 25 teams are created equal, and there’s probably a reason why a team isn’t ranked in the top 25 anymore. I don’t think it’s irrational to believe that our two wins are better than anything Memphis or Cincy has done so far.

Memphis is the only team to beat SMU and Navy, I don't get your reasoning.

Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

So a 6-3 Tulane team is "yuck", but a 7-2 ULL team is one of the best G5 wins of the season?

(11-13-2019 10:27 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 10:03 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:52 PM)bucblizzard Wrote:  Memphis is the only team to beat SMU and Navy, I don't get your reasoning.

Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

At least their best win isn't in the Sunbelt or some 5 loss ACC team... and their worse loss isn't to Georgia Southern. You also missed that they beat Air Force, who beat Colorado and only has losses to Boise State and Navy (both who should be ranked... especially ahead of App St.)

Interesting road to go down here... If you wanna play the transitive scores game, our only loss came to Ga Southern, who lost by 3 to the #8 team in the country.

We just beat South Carolina, who BEAT the #4 team in the country.

We beat Carolina, who lost by a point to the #3 team in the country.

So please, feel free to play the transitive score game with us. I’m sure the committee did too. Or maybe you just know more than they do?

(11-13-2019 10:50 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 10:27 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 10:03 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

At least their best win isn't in the Sunbelt or some 5 loss ACC team... and their worse loss isn't to Georgia Southern. You also missed that they beat Air Force, who beat Colorado and only has losses to Boise State and Navy (both who should be ranked... especially ahead of App St.)

Interesting road to go down here... If you wanna play the transitive scores game, our only loss came to Ga Southern, who lost by 3 to the #8 team in the country and lost by 13 to Louisiana, and then lost by 21 to Troy.

We just beat South Carolina, who BEAT the #4 team in the country. Who is 4-6

We beat Carolina, who lost by a point to the #3 team in the country. Who is 4-5 in a conference statistically a match to the AAC according to Massey

So please, feel free to play the transitive score game with us. I’m sure the committee did too. Or maybe you just know more than they do?

Meanwhile, Navy beat Air Force, who has two losses, to ranked Boise, and a one loss Navy.
Navy's only loss is to Memphis, who is ranked. Actually AFA is more deserving of Apps spot than App is, and Navy is clearly a superior resume to both.

Can we play again??

(11-13-2019 10:38 AM)Nameless Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 10:03 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:52 PM)bucblizzard Wrote:  Memphis is the only team to beat SMU and Navy, I don't get your reasoning.

Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

So a 6-3 Tulane team is "yuck", but a 7-2 ULL team is one of the best G5 wins of the season?

You bite your tongue!! ULala won AT Ohio!!

(11-12-2019 10:10 PM)dubcat14 Wrote:  Massey SOS:
Cincinnati 47, Memphis 63, App State 91

Sagarin SOS:
Cincinnati 64, Memphis 69, App State 118

Colley SOS:
Cincinnati 48, Memphis 60 , App State 123

Any other SOS rankings you want to use? Yes Cincinnati and Memphis' 8-1 is far different than App State's. Take your blinders off homie.

Furthermore.. Cincinnati's out of conference based on Massey composite: UCLA (59), Marshall (69), Ohio State (1), Miami (79)
App State's: UNC (53) , USC (61), East Tenn State (FCS.. yikes), Charlotte (104)

So yes, your UNC is slightly better than UCLA, and USC is slightly better than Marshall, play a top 5 team and I guarantee you'd be 7-2. Then factor in far better conference opponents and I'm not really sure what you're arguing????

Still sitting here wondering why App State fans are trying to beef up their schedule when computers say they have one of the worst in the country..

(11-13-2019 11:51 AM)dubcat14 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:10 PM)dubcat14 Wrote:  Massey SOS:
Cincinnati 47, Memphis 63, App State 91

Sagarin SOS:
Cincinnati 64, Memphis 69, App State 118

Colley SOS:
Cincinnati 48, Memphis 60 , App State 123

Any other SOS rankings you want to use? Yes Cincinnati and Memphis' 8-1 is far different than App State's. Take your blinders off homie.

Furthermore.. Cincinnati's out of conference based on Massey composite: UCLA (59), Marshall (69), Ohio State (1), Miami (79)
App State's: UNC (53) , USC (61), East Tenn State (FCS.. yikes), Charlotte (104)

So yes, your UNC is slightly better than UCLA, and USC is slightly better than Marshall, play a top 5 team and I guarantee you'd be 7-2. Then factor in far better conference opponents and I'm not really sure what you're arguing????

Still sitting here wondering why App State fans are trying to beef up their schedule when computers say they have one of the worst in the country..

We don’t have to. The committee has spoken.

From The Athletic


Power Rankings
1. Memphis (8-1)
2. Cincinnati (8-1)
3. SMU (9-1)
4. Navy (7-1)
5. Boise State (8-1)
6. Appalachian State (8-1)
7. Air Force (7-2)
8. Louisiana Tech (8-1)
9. Tulane (6-3)
10. UCF (7-3)
11. San Diego State (7-2)
12. Louisiana Lafayette (7-2)
13. Wyoming (6-3)
14. Temple (6-3)
15. Georgia State (6-3)

(11-13-2019 10:35 AM)Nameless Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 09:58 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:23 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:11 PM)App10 Wrote:  App has the 3 best wins in the G5. UNC, USC, and yes ULL. It’s actually BS we’re not ranked higher. Navy’s schedule has been pathetic and Boise doesn’t have as good a resume. I can live with Cincy and Memphis ahead at this moment but there’s a very strong case App should be the highest ranked G5.

Lmao. TCU is a better win that any team you just mentioned, and App just leapfrogged the team that beat them...

In what way is TCU a better win than USC or UNC? I’ve seen JV teams in Texas with better offenses. If anything they’re more similar wins than not, and App has 2 of those wins. But i guess your “lmao” means you’re right!

The "lmao" had nothing to do with defending any argument I made; it was simply me laughing at your ridiculous comment that 2 teams under .500 were the best "G5" wins of the season. I thought that was fairly obvious...

I would agree they are comparable wins, but TCU is yet to lose to a team that is .500 or worse. Their worst lost is to a 5-4 Iowa State team, and they lost their past 2 games by a combined 13 points to teams that are currently ranked in the CFP. I know almost is only good in horseshoes and hand grenades, so I'm not trying to pump up those losses as anything special, merely point out they aren't getting blown out by these teams. They've also beaten a ranked Texas team. Let's compare that to the 2 teams you're saying are the "best G5 wins."

South Carolina: They've beaten a very good Georgia team, but were also blown out a garbage Tennessee team and lost to a below average UNC. I'll take the team with 1 good win and no losses to teams below .500 over the team with 1 good win and 2 losses to teams below .500

UNC: Their best win is Miami. Most of their losses have been close, but so have most of their wins. They're just not a very good football team. So they have no bad losses, but their best win is a 6-4 Miami team. I'll take a win over Texas against a win over Miami if we're comparing records.

The strength of record for all 3 teams: TCU (55), South Carolina (58), UNC (61). Comparable, but a slight edge to TCU.

As you said, they're comparable wins, but TCU not losing to any bad teams while still having a win over a ranked Texas team gives them a slight edge when comparing records. But even saying the wins are comparable largely refutes your point that USC and UNC are "the best G5 wins."

LMAO how does it refute that? That ONE (1) win against a mediocre team. App has TWO (2) wins against teams you just admitted are comparable if not the same. TWO (2) > ONE (1). You keep polishing that TCU turd tho lmao.

(11-13-2019 10:38 AM)Nameless Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 10:03 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 09:52 PM)bucblizzard Wrote:  Memphis is the only team to beat SMU and Navy, I don't get your reasoning.

Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

So a 6-3 Tulane team is "yuck", but a 7-2 ULL team is one of the best G5 wins of the season?

No, when your best win is that 6-3 Tulane team, yeah that’s a yuck schedule - had nothing to do with Tulane necessarily. It’s great to see Tulane out of the basement. And keep downplaying ULL but advanced metrics (SP+) say they’re about identical to Tulane. So yeah there’s 3 wins equal to or better anything Navy has to offer.

I'm surprised you App fans are over here. Seems like you'd be better off on the Cusa board arguing for conference membership rather than coming over here.

App could beat any team in the AAC this year...be thankful they laid an egg in a bad weather game otherwise they could have been ranked ahead of Cincy, Memphis.

(11-13-2019 12:52 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  I'm surprised you App fans are over here. Seems like you'd be better off on the Cusa board arguing for conference membership rather than coming over here.

What is hilarious is they've got UCONN fans defending the AAC.

(11-13-2019 01:00 PM)everyone Wrote:  App could beat any team in the AAC this year...be thankful they laid an egg in a bad weather game otherwise they could have been ranked ahead of Cincy, Memphis.

They have a lower sos than any AAC team including Cincy and Memphis. If they were undefeated, yes, the committee would probably rank them the highest G5. I say "probably" because I think their schedule would weigh against them, but undefeated trumps one loss.

But based on that schedule though, to say they would beat any of the 3 ranked AAC teams is silly.

(11-13-2019 01:00 PM)everyone Wrote:  App could beat any team in the AAC this year...be thankful they laid an egg in a bad weather game otherwise they could have been ranked ahead of Cincy, Memphis.

Pretty easy to go undefeated playing high school teams...

(11-13-2019 10:50 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 10:27 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 10:03 AM)App10 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 11:39 PM)JAY1978 Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:02 PM)App10 Wrote:  Navy has beat who?

Enough teams to be ranked above APP ST.

Great response! Lol i do respect how y’all all cape up for your AAC brethren but Navy’s schedule is God awful- best win is a 6-3 Tulane team? Yuck.

At least their best win isn't in the Sunbelt or some 5 loss ACC team... and their worse loss isn't to Georgia Southern. You also missed that they beat Air Force, who beat Colorado and only has losses to Boise State and Navy (both who should be ranked... especially ahead of App St.)

Interesting road to go down here... If you wanna play the transitive scores game, our only loss came to Ga Southern, who lost by 3 to the #8 team in the country.

We just beat South Carolina, who BEAT the #4 team in the country.

We beat Carolina, who lost by a point to the #3 team in the country.

So please, feel free to play the transitive score game with us. I’m sure the committee did too. Or maybe you just know more than they do?

He didn’t do anything transitive he was just validating Air Force as a good team. Georgia Southern lost to Troy by 21. Troy.