(10-17-2019 04:19 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 04:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 04:02 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 03:52 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 03:37 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  If it is a repost, my apologies.

Not a repost, just a rehash of every day, every week, every minute some new "REVELATION!!!" That is just sure to get him impeached.

You don't think something like this has been vetted? Nap or not? Run by the WH ethics and legal Dept's? Or do you honestly believe he took his Moses hook, jammed it on floor and decreed that "This too shall pass, this too shall be done"?

C'mon.

I guess the Fransicko Nan and schifty charade is already (predictably) running out of steam like all the other farces.

Sad.

It's not about getting vetted. It's about time and time again blurring the lines of what we allow a sitting President to do. We used to care about this sort of thing. Now all I hear is "Trump winning again!!!" He just decided to host a huge foreign event at his own place of business. Cost, not at cost, no one cares. There are plenty of other places to host this event that are not connected to Trump. This is about optics and this is nothing short of a bad look time and time again. It sets really bad precedent for the next President.

If you can't understand my perspective on that as an American citizen then I really don't know what to tell you.

Had Obama done this a few years back people would have lost their minds.

When Bill & Hillary did and Hillary continued to do in the Obama administration and when Biden did during the Obama administration, did you lose your mind?

If your answer is no, then you are just a mindless hypocrite.

I didn't lose my mind over this. I just posted a link to a news article on a football forum. I think it's a really bad look to do this as our president. As far as the other three go, I'm good with investigating any of them if there is reason to believe they did something unethical or against the law. I'm all on board investing Biden/his son if they did some shady dealings.

Honest questions: Did President Clinton do anything like this during his 2 terms? Has any past President of the United States done anything like this? What are the examples?

Bill's were mostly before-Whitewater, Merrill Lynch. Hillary did Travelgate while Bill was president (fired long time travel agency, hired buddies). Bill made a fortune giving speeches and Clinton Foundation took in a bunch of money that helped pay Chelsea's salary all from people Hillary dealt with as Sec. of State. We don't know exactly what Biden did, but we do know what Hunter did.

As for Obama he made a ton in book deals while president-about $15 million (made $65 million advance for deal just after leaving office):
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexande...d408e35bf0

https://www.businessinsider.com/barack-o...rth-2018-7
Obama increased his net worth 30 times while president. Trump has probably cut his in half and hurt his future earnings potential.

As for this arrangement, do we know that Trump will make any money off this deal? Mulvaney says he won't. What's the arrangement? Before you condemn him, you should know the facts or you could end up looking as stupid as the NY Times and CNN do every day.

(10-17-2019 06:25 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Here's my take. The problem isn't whether it's ethical the problem is that that dumb*** (I'm a Trump supporter, okay, I just tell it like I see it, like I do with my kids doings) knows that these evil Demoncraps are like buzzards on a tree limb just waiting to pounce on one of his weak moments to impeach. Why does he continuously want to bring more shiate into his presidency when all he had to do was not put in his beak into this controversy. He's like that person that won't use a real knife but a plastic one because he knows he won't commit murder but will render the victim a very painful wound.

It's like I wouldn't go into my neighbors house without her husband being present even if the visit was innocent. It's all about the "look". It looks bad.

I love what Trump has accomplished for this country but sometimes he really irks me with his stupid capers.

He picks a lot of unnecessary fights.

(10-17-2019 04:04 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Windmill? Check.

Commence tilting...

You may need to talk Mark off the ledge. He’s over on the Banter board screaming to himself.

(10-17-2019 07:36 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 04:04 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Windmill? Check.

Commence tilting...

You may need to talk Mark off the ledge. He’s over on the Banter board screaming to himself.

Mark is good folk who happens to drift towards the left side of the political spectrum...he roots for a home team like most but he’s reasonable. Guessing he’s not thinking muh emoluments is the golden path to the Oval Office.

(10-17-2019 04:02 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 03:52 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 03:37 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 03:36 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Jesus I just can’t do it anymore..Lol

If it is a repost, my apologies.

Not a repost, just a rehash of every day, every week, every minute some new "REVELATION!!!" That is just sure to get him impeached.

You don't think something like this has been vetted? Nap or not? Run by the WH ethics and legal Dept's? Or do you honestly believe he took his Moses hook, jammed it on floor and decreed that "This too shall pass, this too shall be done"?

C'mon.

I guess the Fransicko Nan and schifty charade is already (predictably) running out of steam like all the other farces.

Sad.

It's not about getting vetted. It's about time and time again blurring the lines of what we allow a sitting President to do. We used to care about this sort of thing. Now all I hear is "Trump winning again!!!" He just decided to host a huge foreign event at his own place of business. Cost, not at cost, no one cares. There are plenty of other places to host this event that are not connected to Trump. This is about optics and this is nothing short of a bad look time and time again. It sets really bad precedent for the next President.

If you can't understand my perspective on that as an American citizen then I really don't know what to tell you.

Had Obama done this a few years back people would have lost their minds.

Had Barry gone to play golf on the government’s dime with company execs he later took millions from when he left office no one on the left would notice. You didn’t, did you? If Barry had poured more than 8 BILLION dollars into a chaotic corrupt Ukrainian government and many millions of that money ended up in the pockets of democrat campaign officials and democrat Congress persons family members you’d want to know, wouldn’t you? The only thing you are really worried about is soothing your TDS....

(10-17-2019 04:58 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 04:42 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Wait, just seeing now, Mulvaney said climate change will not be on the agenda.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/art...-g7-summit

I think that's ridiculous.

Wasn't on the agenda the other night in the Democratic Debate either was it?

There was a LOT that was conspicuously absent on the agenda.

(10-17-2019 05:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I do not care if you are Bill Clinton or Donald Trump. If you violate the Constitution like they did and Nixon? You should be Impeached and removed from office. Both parties are a bunch of hypocrites on these issues.

If you could just show us how Trump "violated the Constitution"...

(10-17-2019 11:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 05:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I do not care if you are Bill Clinton or Donald Trump. If you violate the Constitution like they did and Nixon? You should be Impeached and removed from office. Both parties are a bunch of hypocrites on these issues.

If you could just show us how Trump "violated the Constitution"...

Like EVERYTHIG else they've tried, they never intend to actually prove anything. All they want to do is get the allegation out there because they know their minions will beleive it. Fortunately, more and more people are wising up to their intenta nd simply ignoring it.

(10-18-2019 08:15 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 05:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I do not care if you are Bill Clinton or Donald Trump. If you violate the Constitution like they did and Nixon? You should be Impeached and removed from office. Both parties are a bunch of hypocrites on these issues.

If you could just show us how Trump "violated the Constitution"...

Like EVERYTHIG else they've tried, they never intend to actually prove anything. All they want to do is get the allegation out there because they know their minions will beleive it. Fortunately, more and more people are wising up to their intent and simply ignoring it.

The plural of allegation is not evidence.

ffs just host it at Camp David. Cheaper, done before, no conflict of interest, not divisive, safer, apolitical.

THIS SHOULD BE A BIPARTISAN OPINION.

(10-18-2019 11:25 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  ffs just host it at Camp David. Cheaper, done before, no conflict of interest, not divisive, safer, apolitical.

THIS SHOULD BE A BIPARTISAN OPINION.

Members of the G7 prefer Doral, mainly because its really nice and has villas, and isnt a sh*thole.

(10-18-2019 11:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 11:25 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  ffs just host it at Camp David. Cheaper, done before, no conflict of interest, not divisive, safer, apolitical.

THIS SHOULD BE A BIPARTISAN OPINION.

Members of the G7 prefer Doral, mainly because its really nice and has villas, and isnt a sh*thole.

Then renovate Camp David. If niceness is the concern, there are plenty of other locales that are again:

Cheaper, done before (we have), no conflict of interest, not divisive, safer, apolitical.

(10-18-2019 11:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 11:25 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  ffs just host it at Camp David. Cheaper, done before, no conflict of interest, not divisive, safer, apolitical.

THIS SHOULD BE A BIPARTISAN OPINION.

Members of the G7 prefer Doral, mainly because its really nice and has villas, and isnt a sh*thole.

And is probably locked down with security options like a mo-fo.

This is all such silliness. Charge out at revenue neutral and tell people to STFU.

When it’s said and done I’ll bet the balance sheet on this end up in the red. People are looking for something to freak about. It’s the new normal.

(10-18-2019 11:45 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 11:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 11:25 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  ffs just host it at Camp David. Cheaper, done before, no conflict of interest, not divisive, safer, apolitical.

THIS SHOULD BE A BIPARTISAN OPINION.

Members of the G7 prefer Doral, mainly because its really nice and has villas, and isnt a sh*thole.

And is probably locked down with security options like a mo-fo.

This is all such silliness. Charge out at revenue neutral and tell people to STFU.

When it’s said and done I’ll bet the balance sheet on this end up in the red. People are looking for something to freak about. It’s the new normal.

Looking for something to freak out about? A sitting President is awarding himself monumental no bid contracts when it's completely unnecessary to do so.

Looks like Trump backed down on Doral. It should be easy to find a new location though. Take whatever study the administration used that found that Doral was the best option... and pick the second best choice... Because that study totally exists.... Right?

(10-18-2019 11:25 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  ffs just host it at Camp David. Cheaper, done before, no conflict of interest, not divisive, safer, apolitical.
THIS SHOULD BE A BIPARTISAN OPINION.

Camp David is, shall we say, "rustic." It's designed to be a weekend getaway and to host one-one-ones. There just aren't facilities there to host anything as big as the G7, wasn't really in 2012 when Obama hosted there, and these meetings get bigger with more staff every year.

I personally think Trump and other presidents should use Camp David more. But then, I'm a country boy, into hunting/fishing/etc., and most presidents are city folks.

Can they look into an isolated resort like the Greenbrier? Personally, I'd be worried about large-scale protests in June, 2020, so I'd be wary of having it in any larger city. I guess the costs of shutting down the Greenbrier just for the G7 might be large, but it certainly would provide the scenic backdrops necessary for the photo ops. It would also provide a big economic boost to West Virginia.

Camp David certainly can provide the security needed, but it's so 'yesterday' as others have already mentioned.

Problem solved. Sky Screamers will need to find something else silly to freak over. It’s a long week so I have faith in em’.

(10-20-2019 10:04 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Can they look into an isolated resort like the Greenbrier? Personally, I'd be worried about large-scale protests in June, 2020, so I'd be wary of having it in any larger city. I guess the costs of shutting down the Greenbrier just for the G7 might be large, but it certainly would provide the scenic backdrops necessary for the photo ops. It would also provide a big economic boost to West Virginia.

Camp David certainly can provide the security needed, but it's so 'yesterday' as others have already mentioned.

Greenbriar, Homestead, or Biltmore. Let them bid on it.

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(10-20-2019 10:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Problem solved. Sky Screamers will need to find something else silly to freak over. It’s a long week so I have faith in em’.

Holding the President to the low standard of not being corrupt is not silly.