(10-13-2019 12:47 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Nobody gonna like this idea
Buffalo & Conn would get NYC at least somewhat intresred

Your right - no one likes that idea.

(10-13-2019 09:21 AM)wave97 Wrote:  Old Dominion should be the choice once Bobby Wilder and staff are removed.
*Mid Atlantic location
*Large and active fan base
*Largest and most underserved media market of all potential replacements
*Legendary recruiting region

lol...that "large and active fan base" is averaging 19,664 in attendance this year. CUSA bet big on the potential of several FCS move up schools. Thus far, ODU has largely been a massive bust at the FBS level. I see zero reason the AAC should double down on CUSA's losing bet. If or when ODU actually turns that potential into reality---thats the time to consider adding the Monarchs.

Aresco is basically playing the "give us what we want or else" card.

(10-13-2019 12:52 PM)usffan Wrote:  JFC, did anybody bother to actually read the link?

Quote:PHILADELPHIA - American Athletic Conference commissioner Mike Aresco is optimistic that the league's waiver request to hold a football championship game once it goes to 11 teams next season will be approved by the NCAA later this fall.

If the waiver request is denied, however, Aresco told reporters before Saturday's game between Memphis and Temple that the AAC would have to consider expansion due to the importance of holding a football championship game moving forward.

Aresco said if the waiver is approved, the conference championship game would remain in place for at least two seasons.

“If we do get it, we would move quickly towards trying to get legislation permanently to do what we need to do, which is play at 11 teams and still maintain an eight-game conference schedule,” Aresco said.

Aresco noted that the conference already made its pitch in writing to the NCAA Football Oversight Committee and ultimately the NCAA will make its decision. UConn announced in June that it would be leaving the AAC to return to the Big East.

The AAC would prefer to not raid another conference to go back to 12 members after UConn leaves following this season. But, Aresco added, the AAC would have to consider expansion if the NCAA does not accept its waiver request for a football championship game with 11 teams.

How in the name of God does somebody read that and say "hey, you guys are leaning toward expansion?" The whole thing pretty much says we would only consider expansion as a last resort. That would be like somebody saying I'm leaning toward ordering liver for dinner, when in reality I would only eat liver if my choices were liver or starvation.



Or, rather, was this just the umpteenth attempt to get us to waste our time litigating the merits of schools who would sell their souls to get into the AAC? Why don't we beg for that Sufferin' Myth fan (Reggie Favre or something like that) to come back and take over the board again?

USFFan

The most interesting thing in that article is it seems to suggest we are asking for a waiver that lasts just 2 years.

Aresco said if the waiver is approved, the conference championship game would remain in place for at least two seasons.

(10-13-2019 12:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 12:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  if we don't get the waiver just add UAB...they have a great market, new stadium opening, good facilities, they're piling up Ws in football, and they have a tradition rich hoops program.

nice new stadium opening soon:


nice football support facilities:


tradition rich basketball program:

And under the control of Bama

UAB also has good academics and a solid athletic budget (34 million)

(10-13-2019 01:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 12:52 PM)usffan Wrote:  JFC, did anybody bother to actually read the link?

Quote:PHILADELPHIA - American Athletic Conference commissioner Mike Aresco is optimistic that the league's waiver request to hold a football championship game once it goes to 11 teams next season will be approved by the NCAA later this fall.

If the waiver request is denied, however, Aresco told reporters before Saturday's game between Memphis and Temple that the AAC would have to consider expansion due to the importance of holding a football championship game moving forward.

Aresco said if the waiver is approved, the conference championship game would remain in place for at least two seasons.

“If we do get it, we would move quickly towards trying to get legislation permanently to do what we need to do, which is play at 11 teams and still maintain an eight-game conference schedule,” Aresco said.

Aresco noted that the conference already made its pitch in writing to the NCAA Football Oversight Committee and ultimately the NCAA will make its decision. UConn announced in June that it would be leaving the AAC to return to the Big East.

The AAC would prefer to not raid another conference to go back to 12 members after UConn leaves following this season. But, Aresco added, the AAC would have to consider expansion if the NCAA does not accept its waiver request for a football championship game with 11 teams.

How in the name of God does somebody read that and say "hey, you guys are leaning toward expansion?" The whole thing pretty much says we would only consider expansion as a last resort. That would be like somebody saying I'm leaning toward ordering liver for dinner, when in reality I would only eat liver if my choices were liver or starvation.



Or, rather, was this just the umpteenth attempt to get us to waste our time litigating the merits of schools who would sell their souls to get into the AAC? Why don't we beg for that Sufferin' Myth fan (Reggie Favre or something like that) to come back and take over the board again?

USFFan

The most interesting thing in that article is it seems to suggest we are asking for a waiver that lasts just 2 years.

Aresco said if the waiver is approved, the conference championship game would remain in place for at least two seasons.

Two years is my take on it too

B/c of market and facility improvements Georgia State could be a decent target.

(10-13-2019 02:00 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 01:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 12:52 PM)usffan Wrote:  JFC, did anybody bother to actually read the link?

Quote:PHILADELPHIA - American Athletic Conference commissioner Mike Aresco is optimistic that the league's waiver request to hold a football championship game once it goes to 11 teams next season will be approved by the NCAA later this fall.

If the waiver request is denied, however, Aresco told reporters before Saturday's game between Memphis and Temple that the AAC would have to consider expansion due to the importance of holding a football championship game moving forward.

Aresco said if the waiver is approved, the conference championship game would remain in place for at least two seasons.

“If we do get it, we would move quickly towards trying to get legislation permanently to do what we need to do, which is play at 11 teams and still maintain an eight-game conference schedule,” Aresco said.

Aresco noted that the conference already made its pitch in writing to the NCAA Football Oversight Committee and ultimately the NCAA will make its decision. UConn announced in June that it would be leaving the AAC to return to the Big East.

The AAC would prefer to not raid another conference to go back to 12 members after UConn leaves following this season. But, Aresco added, the AAC would have to consider expansion if the NCAA does not accept its waiver request for a football championship game with 11 teams.

How in the name of God does somebody read that and say "hey, you guys are leaning toward expansion?" The whole thing pretty much says we would only consider expansion as a last resort. That would be like somebody saying I'm leaning toward ordering liver for dinner, when in reality I would only eat liver if my choices were liver or starvation.



Or, rather, was this just the umpteenth attempt to get us to waste our time litigating the merits of schools who would sell their souls to get into the AAC? Why don't we beg for that Sufferin' Myth fan (Reggie Favre or something like that) to come back and take over the board again?

USFFan

The most interesting thing in that article is it seems to suggest we are asking for a waiver that lasts just 2 years.

Aresco said if the waiver is approved, the conference championship game would remain in place for at least two seasons.

Two years is my take on it too

B/c of market and facility improvements Georgia State could be a decent target.

I doubt Georgia St will be a target. Thats yet another suggested candidate with a very underdeveloped fan base (currently averaging barely over 18K in attendance). UAB has a 5-1 team, coming off a CUSA championship, yet they only drew 23,526 at their last home game. I just dont see any viable potential additions right now. It remains Army, BYU, or Air Force as the only legit options. I think VCU is a "no brainer" non-football addition---but I guess we arent interested in going in that direction.

Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

(10-13-2019 01:38 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Aresco is basically playing the "give us what we want or else" card.

No he is stating reality. If the AAC can't get the wavier then it will have to raid another conference for a 12th member or take on an independent which isn't working because both BYU and Army have turned the AAC down before. I'm sure Aresco has a list of candidates to present to the conference presidents if the waiver fails to fly.

(10-13-2019 02:45 PM)B easy Wrote:  Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

If this happens (big if), I think you move Tulane into the East, making the AFA's schedule annual games vs. SMU, Tulsa, Houston, Memphis and Navy and alternating schedules vs. the 6 schools in the east (meaning only 1 or 2 trips to Philly, NO, Florida, North Carolina or Ohio every year). Sure seems much shorter than a trip to Hawaii, and the rest is probably a wash.

Now, if Aresco managed to surgically remove SDSU, Boise AND Air Force and paired them in a western division with SMU, Houston, Tulsa and Navy (who I have to figure would still want to be in the west), I think you could start to make a legitimate case for a Power 6. Of course, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

USFFan

(10-13-2019 02:45 PM)B easy Wrote:  Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

If travel is his concern, what league does he want? He'd travel a long ways for half of his games in the AAC. Plus they'd need a place for their other sports.

double post

(10-13-2019 02:45 PM)B easy Wrote:  Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

Air Force would be an excellent football only addition. Slide in VCU as a non-football addition and the league is even better than is today. Having to academies would give the AAC the perfect identity to go along with its name----the "American Athletic Conference". One thing it does for Air Force---it gives them more OOC flexibility because one of their guaranteed OOC games (Navy) becomes an annual conference game.

(10-13-2019 03:11 PM)DrBox Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 02:45 PM)B easy Wrote:  Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

If travel is his concern, what league does he want? He'd travel a long ways for half of his games in the AAC. Plus they'd need a place for their other sports.

Travel may actually get a bit easier in the AAC, or at least be a wash. Navy, which they play each year regardless, becomes a conference game. They'll play in the west, and all of those teams - with the exception of Navy - are closer than half of the MWC. They'll only play 3 eastern teams each year, and one or two will be at home. They can then keep some of their close MWC rivals - along with Army and an occasional Notre Dame game - on their nonconference schedule. Interesting proposition.

(10-13-2019 12:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 12:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  if we don't get the waiver just add UAB...they have a great market, new stadium opening, good facilities, they're piling up Ws in football, and they have a tradition rich hoops program.

nice new stadium opening soon:


nice football support facilities:


tradition rich basketball program:

And under the control of Bama

Yeah, this screams "we'll take little brother". No thanks.

(10-13-2019 02:45 PM)B easy Wrote:  Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

Uhhh.... they're in the AIR FORCE... That could come in HANDY!!!! HEY GUYS! I GOT IT! AIR FREAKING FORCE!!!!

(10-13-2019 03:02 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 02:45 PM)B easy Wrote:  Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

If this happens (big if), I think you move Tulane into the East, making the AFA's schedule annual games vs. SMU, Tulsa, Houston, Memphis and Navy and alternating schedules vs. the 6 schools in the east (meaning only 1 or 2 trips to Philly, NO, Florida, North Carolina or Ohio every year). Sure seems much shorter than a trip to Hawaii, and the rest is probably a wash.

Now, if Aresco managed to surgically remove SDSU, Boise AND Air Force and paired them in a western division with SMU, Houston, Tulsa and Navy (who I have to figure would still want to be in the west), I think you could start to make a legitimate case for a Power 6. Of course, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

USFFan

that would be perfect if they want it.

1) AF is the Eastern most MWC team.

2) they could put their other sports in the Summit League where they could actually win games and compete.

3) the AAC West would then be AF, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane, and Navy. This would ensure the AF-Navy games is played every season. East would be Cincy, Memphis, Temple, UCF, USF, and ECU.

I like it.

Two triple option teams in the west

(10-13-2019 03:56 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Two triple option teams in the west

Wow the East would be even more stacked than we are already.

(10-13-2019 03:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 03:02 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 02:45 PM)B easy Wrote:  Article out today about Air Force coach politicking to get out of MWC. Mentions the AAC is a possible option.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tain-west/

How bad would their travel be if they were in the western division. You have to think that avoiding the trip to Hawaii alone would make the AAC west the better option. Not to mention joining Navy & making more $. Seems like a no brainer for them.

If this happens (big if), I think you move Tulane into the East, making the AFA's schedule annual games vs. SMU, Tulsa, Houston, Memphis and Navy and alternating schedules vs. the 6 schools in the east (meaning only 1 or 2 trips to Philly, NO, Florida, North Carolina or Ohio every year). Sure seems much shorter than a trip to Hawaii, and the rest is probably a wash.

Now, if Aresco managed to surgically remove SDSU, Boise AND Air Force and paired them in a western division with SMU, Houston, Tulsa and Navy (who I have to figure would still want to be in the west), I think you could start to make a legitimate case for a Power 6. Of course, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

USFFan

that would be perfect if they want it.

1) AF is the Eastern most MWC team.

2) they could put their other sports in the Summit League where they could actually win games and compete.

3) the AAC West would then be AF, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane, and Navy. This would ensure the AF-Navy games is played every season. East would be Cincy, Memphis, Temple, UCF, USF, and ECU.

I like it.

Naw... yall take Tulane. We'll stay in the west.