(08-29-2019 02:54 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  2021 American Football
EAST
Temple
Cincinnati
Appalachian State (FB Only)
ECU
UCF
USF

WEST
Navy (Football Only)
Memphis
Tulane
Tulsa
Houston
SMU

BASKETBALL
Temple
Cincinnati
VCU
ECU
UCF
USF
Memphis
Tulane
Tulsa
SMU
Houston
Wichita State

Don't get Pirate fans pushing to screw up our recruiting advantage by bringing up App State and/or ODU. We sit in a pretty comfortable spot right under the NC/VA ACC teams, but over the regional CUSA/Sun Belt teams like App/ODU/Coastal/Charlotte/etc. Don't rock the boat. Let's grab a team for the Western block.

Not sure this would work, but what if the top 4 and the bottom 4 play each other the following year? I think it would give the current top of the conf a better SOS. Just spitballin

(08-29-2019 03:05 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  Not sure this would work, but what if the top 4 and the bottom 4 play each other the following year? I think it would give the current top of the conf a better SOS. Just spitballin

I dig it. Though you might have the tops beat each other up while one or two of the bottoms prosper every season.

(08-29-2019 01:55 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:57 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:46 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Tulsa fan talking $hit about Temple. Y’all peaked 30 years ago now you’re an albatross.

We were arguably the one of the best football teams in C-USA less than 10 years ago alongside Houston UCF and ECU.

Back when you guys were playing .443 under Al Golden. Let's not go back further and look at Dickerson or Wallace.

Heck, even Rhule wasn't far over .500 during his tenure.

We'll see how Monty does. Everyone including him, knows his butt is on the hottest of hot seats. I don't see our admin letting him keep his gig after another sub .500 season, financial issues or not.

Also, an albatross can have a 10ft wingspan. They're pretty bad a**. so....you should have led with that.

More specifically my post referred to the phrase “an albatross around the neck” which comes from a story about a sailor who killed an albatross and was forced to wear it around his neck. It’s an old saying so I understand some of the kids here don’t get it. It is a metaphor for having a clunky unwanted burden. That was the point of comparing Tulsa to an albatross. Sorry if that was unclear.

(08-29-2019 04:43 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 01:55 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:57 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:46 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Tulsa fan talking $hit about Temple. Y’all peaked 30 years ago now you’re an albatross.

We were arguably the one of the best football teams in C-USA less than 10 years ago alongside Houston UCF and ECU.

Back when you guys were playing .443 under Al Golden. Let's not go back further and look at Dickerson or Wallace.

Heck, even Rhule wasn't far over .500 during his tenure.

We'll see how Monty does. Everyone including him, knows his butt is on the hottest of hot seats. I don't see our admin letting him keep his gig after another sub .500 season, financial issues or not.

Also, an albatross can have a 10ft wingspan. They're pretty bad a**. so....you should have led with that.

More specifically my post referred to the phrase “an albatross around the neck” which comes from a story about a sailor who killed an albatross and was forced to wear it around his neck. It’s an old saying so I understand some of the kids here don’t get it. It is a metaphor for having a clunky unwanted burden. That was the point of comparing Tulsa to an albatross. Sorry if that was unclear.

I thought you were talking about a big azz bird who will take a dump all over your anything and everything you care about.

(08-29-2019 08:39 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:19 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 11:45 AM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 11:31 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 10:52 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  I'd keep the locked 2 teams geographical and recruiting area for better attendance. Something like:

SMU - UH, Tulane
TULSA - Tulane. Memphis
Memphis - Tulsa, UH
UH - Memphis, SMU
Tulane - SMU, Tulsa

Navy - ECU, Temple
ECU - Navy, UCF
UCF - USF, ECU
USF - UCF, Cincinnati
Cincinnati - USF, Temple
Temple - Cincinnati, Navy

Locking Memphis and UH together in place of UH and Tulsa is dumb. As far as I can tell, Memphis doesn't really recruit the Houston Metro and Houston doesn't really recruit the Memphis Metro. Tulsa, however; does recruit the Houston metro. Also we have the league's longest history with Houston.

Add to that, that Tulsa's travel to Tulane is twice as far as Memphis' would be.

Many teams have been conference mates in multiple conferences, have played each other a bunch. This is why we are all in the AAC, not why we should be locked into playing each other. Geographic proximity is the best way to go. Giving Tulane SMU and Tulsa when both Memphis and Houston are closer and have the same history is silly.
The solution below is geographically logical and the best compromise. ECU would be put with the Florida teams, but that is the hardest fit and they would definitely get a recruiting advantage being able to sell the fact that they would play a game in Florida every year.

Looking at this map, we need a team in Georgia (Atlanta).

Realistically UAB or Georgia St would fit this footprint well. UAB may get the edge due to history, but Georgia St certainly has a world of potential and Atlanta being easier to get to/from (slightly) than Birmingham.

Why on earth would we want UAB... Heck they're lucky to have their football back in FBS

No thanks

(08-29-2019 04:43 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 01:55 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:57 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:46 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Tulsa fan talking $hit about Temple. Y’all peaked 30 years ago now you’re an albatross.

We were arguably the one of the best football teams in C-USA less than 10 years ago alongside Houston UCF and ECU.

Back when you guys were playing .443 under Al Golden. Let's not go back further and look at Dickerson or Wallace.

Heck, even Rhule wasn't far over .500 during his tenure.

We'll see how Monty does. Everyone including him, knows his butt is on the hottest of hot seats. I don't see our admin letting him keep his gig after another sub .500 season, financial issues or not.

Also, an albatross can have a 10ft wingspan. They're pretty bad a**. so....you should have led with that.

More specifically my post referred to the phrase “an albatross around the neck” which comes from a story about a sailor who killed an albatross and was forced to wear it around his neck. It’s an old saying so I understand some of the kids here don’t get it. It is a metaphor for having a clunky unwanted burden. That was the point of comparing Tulsa to an albatross. Sorry if that was unclear.

I know the story (pirate). The key is to not kill the albatross. What I'm saying is, if you could just go ahead and lose to Tulsa...

For permanent rivalries, go 4. Roughly keep the current divisions and rotate through Tulsa-Houston, Navy-Memphis, and SMU-Tulane as the skipped western games. In a given year it makes 0 difference, competitively, how many rivalries are “permanent.”

(08-29-2019 03:29 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 03:05 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  Not sure this would work, but what if the top 4 and the bottom 4 play each other the following year? I think it would give the current top of the conf a better SOS. Just spitballin

I dig it. Though you might have the tops beat each other up while one or two of the bottoms prosper every season.

I can go for a dynamic schedule based on results. That's what the NFL does.

(08-29-2019 02:54 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  2021 American Football
EAST
Temple
Cincinnati
Appalachian State (FB Only)
ECU
UCF
USF

WEST
Navy (Football Only)
Memphis
Tulane
Tulsa
Houston
SMU

BASKETBALL
Temple
Cincinnati
VCU
ECU
UCF
USF
Memphis
Tulane
Tulsa
SMU
Houston
Wichita State

Not the worst idea. It does introduce a really bad dynamic of having an FBS team in the conference that will absolutely want all it's sports in one conference at some point. Not to mention bringing in another Olympic only team, which Aresco has said he doesn't want to continue.

No I think if we do add anyone, it will be all sports. When looking at that, it's clear ODU has the edge over App

(08-27-2019 05:53 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Zero chance that the UCF-USF game isn't played yearly. The biggest showcase game for the league.

*Well, it is going forward considering the likely demise of that Civil CONN-FLict (hopefully it can be continued annually OOC at a neutral site like the Georgia Dome)

Also gotta like the potentially still annual AquaLung Trophy presented by Jethro TUL featuring TUL vs TUL.

(08-29-2019 06:19 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 08:39 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(08-29-2019 12:19 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 11:45 AM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 11:31 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Locking Memphis and UH together in place of UH and Tulsa is dumb. As far as I can tell, Memphis doesn't really recruit the Houston Metro and Houston doesn't really recruit the Memphis Metro. Tulsa, however; does recruit the Houston metro. Also we have the league's longest history with Houston.

Add to that, that Tulsa's travel to Tulane is twice as far as Memphis' would be.

Many teams have been conference mates in multiple conferences, have played each other a bunch. This is why we are all in the AAC, not why we should be locked into playing each other. Geographic proximity is the best way to go. Giving Tulane SMU and Tulsa when both Memphis and Houston are closer and have the same history is silly.
The solution below is geographically logical and the best compromise. ECU would be put with the Florida teams, but that is the hardest fit and they would definitely get a recruiting advantage being able to sell the fact that they would play a game in Florida every year.

Looking at this map, we need a team in Georgia (Atlanta).

Realistically UAB or Georgia St would fit this footprint well. UAB may get the edge due to history, but Georgia St certainly has a world of potential and Atlanta being easier to get to/from (slightly) than Birmingham.

Why on earth would we want UAB... Heck they're lucky to have their football back in FBS

No thanks

Exactly—without a 30 or so 25 year old red shirt seniors—UAB is going back to thier normal place at the lower end of the CUSA standings. Crowds will be returning to lower end of CUSA size as well. Adding UAB is a terrible idea.