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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
UCF, you need to get on Florida, Florida State, and Miami's schedules and beat them, which you're fully capable of doing.

USF has beaten both Miami and Florida State. But that was several years ago so hopefully we can continue to get them on the schedule so it will happen more often. We both (USF and UCF) just need to beat them over and over and essentially knock the door down and force our way in.
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

For knowledge....UCF is the team that Memphis can't beat.

03-drunk

I'm all for changing to the University of Orlando though.
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-24-2019 09:50 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 06:06 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(08-24-2019 05:26 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Hate to say it but the east really has outperformed the west. More conference titles, more wins against the power 5, and all of that even with UConn football dragging it down.

Thank God that football anchor is gone after 2019. If we could somehow land BYU it would be a huge upgrade to our SOS.

That “football anchor” is leaving for a reason. We are in the toughest division of any G5 conference competing against two Florida schools, a North Carolina school, an Ohio school, and a Pennsylvania school for recruits. News flash: only one of the five schools in that division is in an area with little high school football talent. Also, only two of the five of the schools in that division have horribly cold football weather (with one being decidedly worse than the other). How is UConn going to win against those schools with their advantages in football? The only way a New England school wins in football is if it can sell itself to recruits as a P5 (and thanks to some of the brands in this conference, the remnants of the football Big East were stripped of their power status once Cuse, WVU, Pitt, and the Catholics bolted and we added half of CUSA.

Speaking of anchors, the fact that the floor of this league stinks so much in men’s basketball has hurt UConn’s recruiting in that sport while elevating our opponents (news flash: the best northeastern players don’t want to sign on to face ECU, Tulane, Tulsa, UCF, USF, etc. in basketball). Also, as for anchors, this league was only a notch ahead of the CAA in women’s basketball and will be an absolute dumpster fire with the Husky’s departure. So, the “anchor” argument runs both ways. It was a bad relationship for us and you, so we made the right move to pull the plug on this arrangement.

The AAC isn’t landing BYU, Army, or Air Force. You either stand pat or accept the reality of adding Southern Miss, ODU, Marshall, UAB, Charlotte, or Georgia State. And while those schools may be better in football than your football “anchor”, they still don’t command the same eyeballs or have the same fan base size as they are not the top public university in their states. Furthermore, we are all still waiting to see how ESPN adjusts the TV deal with UConn’s departure. I would surmise that it will be a minimum 200K hit per school... those who say it will be nothing and that you will “split UConn’s portion” are delusional.

Todge rant complete.

You're getting insulted. Uconn needs to take self responsibility for their football and basketball mess. I get uconn probably can't compete at the highest level of the AAC east, but you shouldn't be at the bottom of all of fbs. You're blaming a conference for your issues. UCF has been able to make 3 access games in 7 years with getting less than 10% revenue share of power teams. Basketball is an afterthought at ucf but we still are not at the bottom of D1. You can't fix things with excuses.

You see what ECU is doing? Not making excuses and implementing changes. That is what flipped UCF from a winless team a few years ago to this run.
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(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.
Memphis fan ragging on UCF 03-lmfao
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

Most Memphis posters? How about ONE Memphis poster, Shere Khan, and knowing his history, does he even count?
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.
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(08-25-2019 04:29 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.

Any UCF fan around 15 years or so doesn't. We have been on every up and down possible. Going from the independent wasteland and A-Sun to getting GameDay on campus and nearly beating duke in round 2 of the ncaas.

Some of our fanbase is still young so that comes with it. Getting much better though.
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(08-25-2019 05:04 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 04:29 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.

Any UCF fan around 15 years or so doesn't. We have been on every up and down possible. Going from the independent wasteland and A-Sun to getting GameDay on campus and nearly beating duke in round 2 of the ncaas.

Some of our fanbase is still young so that comes with it. Getting much better though.

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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 04:29 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.
If we took the "act like you've been there before" approach, which is basically the same as saying "Know your place", we never claim a natty and wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to the publicity we have today, and you better believe that the TV deal isn't nearly as good without UCF's publicity. UCF fans are now accustomed to being attacked by a large portion of football fans/talking heads whenever we do ANYTHING, and that's kind of instilled a defensive mindset in our fans, so that's why most of the time we get defensive about our team when criticized.
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(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

Because they’re a combined 0-6 against UCF the last two seasons?

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(08-25-2019 05:39 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 04:29 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.
If we took the "act like you've been there before" approach, which is basically the same as saying "Know your place", we never claim a natty and wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to the publicity we have today, and you better believe that the TV deal isn't nearly as good without UCF's publicity. UCF fans are now accustomed to being attacked by a large portion of football fans/talking heads whenever we do ANYTHING, and that's kind of instilled a defensive mindset in our fans, so that's why most of the time we get defensive about our team when criticized.

The Colley Matrix made UCF #1, so as an NCAA recognized poll historically would give UCF a share of the national championship, and its recorded in the NCAA stats as such. Your example is exactly what I'm talking about. Yammering on and on about it two years on is the problem. Look at us, look how much we've won and who and how yadda yadda yadda. WE made the TV deal blah blah blah. You people are simply obnoxious at this point and you're going to make more enemies than fans by acting like complete asshats. Do you want a fan base that's larger than just your alums? You did all that, so STFU and let your program do what it does and act like you've been there.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/co...edirect=on

Quote:In a lonely game on a vast mainland, Florida and Miami (Fla.) played college football Saturday night, calling to mind a quirk. As college football nears its 150th birthday on Nov. 6, those of us afflicted with the sport don’t really think much anymore about the state of Florida, except for a team (UCF) we never used to think about. It’s almost as if the seas went ahead, finished their anticipated rise, took the whole state underwater and left only UCF shouting from an inflatable flamingo.

Quote:Here’s what appeared to happen Saturday: Florida and Miami, both clearly afraid of UCF if one reads their future nonconference schedules which do not include UCF, both traveled to Orlando. They dared not go too close to UCF’s stadium, as that would be too frightening, so they agreed to meet up about 18 humid miles away in the stadium where interlopers alight each year for a Citrus Bowl. Still, both sides clearly shuddered at the thought of UCF nearby with its 25-1 mark the past two seasons, its ransacking of Auburn and its near-success against LSU even after a catastrophic quarterback injury — so they spilled mistakes all over the rug.

Quote: Whether that means it’s time to stop thinking all that much about the Pac-12, Florida vs. Miami showed it’s already time to stop thinking all that much about the old state of Florida except for UCF, unless Florida State rustles from the crypt, which isn’t forecast. That’s all while September has yet even to awaken.
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(08-25-2019 06:02 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 05:39 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 04:29 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.
If we took the "act like you've been there before" approach, which is basically the same as saying "Know your place", we never claim a natty and wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to the publicity we have today, and you better believe that the TV deal isn't nearly as good without UCF's publicity. UCF fans are now accustomed to being attacked by a large portion of football fans/talking heads whenever we do ANYTHING, and that's kind of instilled a defensive mindset in our fans, so that's why most of the time we get defensive about our team when criticized.

The Colley Matrix made UCF #1, so as an NCAA recognized poll historically would give UCF a share of the national championship, and its recorded in the NCAA stats as such. Your example is exactly what I'm talking about. Yammering on and on about it two years on is the problem. Look at us, look how much we've won and who and how yadda yadda yadda. WE made the TV deal blah blah blah. You people are simply obnoxious at this point and you're going to make more enemies than fans by acting like complete asshats. Do you want a fan base that's larger than just your alums? You did all that, so STFU and let your program do what it does and act like you've been there.

Man, you get on a losing streak to UCF and your ugly side comes out. Not a good look.

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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 04:29 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.

Cool story bro........ they might have been good, but not UCF good. So your “expectations” don’t mean diddly squat. Btw, I graduated from UCF in 1993, and have been supporting the program since 1989, I know a thing or two about Memphis fan and ECU fan too.
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 03:55 PM)virgosports Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  In terms of national perception, the u_f schools are indistinguishable. Please one of you change the name of your school.

Thank you.

I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

Most Memphis posters? How about ONE Memphis poster, Shere Khan, and knowing his history, does he even count?

Fair statement, Shere is just trolling. Perhaps I shouldn’t paint with such a broad stroke.
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
^^^^
LOL. This thread has now drawn a line in the sand...

So, outside of the "Big Cuatro" who in Florida is the "fifth wheel?"
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 06:20 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 06:02 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 05:39 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 04:29 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 01:14 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  I find it fascinating that most posters that attempt to besmirch and/or belittle the accomplishments UCF are either usf or memphis fans. I wonder why that is?

I suggest you test your theory Grampa Rip Vanwinkle. Travel wearing UCF gear anywhere in the US and see how many times you are approached and engaged in discussions. I recently traveled to Alaska and spent 4 days in Seattle on the way back, I wore UCF gear on just 2 of the 16 days I was there (in Fairbanks and Seattle) and each time I wore them I was approached and was engaged about how well the UCF program is doing by complete strangers. There was no mention of usf whatsoever.

Now I realize that you speak for the entire nation (and not just as a butthurt Memphis fan whose team has lost 13 straight to UCF), but my experience in traveling recently has been exactly the opposite of what you theorize, namely that UCF is recognized as a National brand, and ESPN recent piece on the “big 4” in Florida is at odds with your personal theory. Be that as it may, The only thing that UCF can control is whether we win against the opposition that we face each game, if we continue to perform at the level that we have been recently our brand will continue to have National appeal which can only benefit the conference that we proudly represent. Incidentally, if Memphis was experiencing the level of success that UCF has recently I’d be saluting their accomplishments because it would indirectly be benefiting the school I graduated from and hold so close to my heart, but that’s just me.

Rant over........

If you actually knew anything about Memphis fans you would realize that by and large their fan base is mature in every context. When they sucked they owned it and didn't piss and moan that someone else was responsible for it. They have been very good for several years now and act like they've been there. I wouldn't expect them to behave any differently if they went undefeated and won the NY6. UCF fans on the other hand act like a bunch of asshat Johnny come lately's. That is the difference, and it is a huge difference.
If we took the "act like you've been there before" approach, which is basically the same as saying "Know your place", we never claim a natty and wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to the publicity we have today, and you better believe that the TV deal isn't nearly as good without UCF's publicity. UCF fans are now accustomed to being attacked by a large portion of football fans/talking heads whenever we do ANYTHING, and that's kind of instilled a defensive mindset in our fans, so that's why most of the time we get defensive about our team when criticized.

The Colley Matrix made UCF #1, so as an NCAA recognized poll historically would give UCF a share of the national championship, and its recorded in the NCAA stats as such. Your example is exactly what I'm talking about. Yammering on and on about it two years on is the problem. Look at us, look how much we've won and who and how yadda yadda yadda. WE made the TV deal blah blah blah. You people are simply obnoxious at this point and you're going to make more enemies than fans by acting like complete asshats. Do you want a fan base that's larger than just your alums? You did all that, so STFU and let your program do what it does and act like you've been there.

Man, you get on a losing streak to UCF and your ugly side comes out. Not a good look.

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Don’t be stupid. I have no problem with the UCF program. Hell, you’re program created the template for how it should be done. I’m talking about UCF’s idiotic fans. Two entirely different things. The football program is something to aspire to, the fan base something to be pitied.
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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 06:53 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  ^^^^
LOL. This thread has now drawn a line in the sand...

So, outside of the "Big Cuatro" who in Florida is the "fifth wheel?"

Probably FAU. They’ve won a conference championship and have a decent on-campus stadium. Although FIU has an argument to make since they have a championship as well but a smaller OCS.

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RE: ESPN: “The Florida Big 3 is now the Big 4”
(08-25-2019 08:39 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
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(08-25-2019 07:54 AM)st932253 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 07:29 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Why do UCF fans require constant positive affirmation from others?

Please rephrase that in the form of a compliment.

with all due respect...Why do UCF fans require constant positive affirmation from others?

-Ricky Bobby

...low self-esteem, and a clawing fear in the back of their heads that they know that their championship claims are full of crap.

I'll hangup and listen...

Gotta believe UCF successes and their NT position has had a lot of publicity which has been a really good thing for the AAC and their contract, along with UH, USF, and Memphis success with OOC games. There have been others that I am missing but the NY6 wins and UCF's ratings have gone a long way.
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