(08-09-2019 09:20 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 08:48 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  What kills me is that people see it as a bad move but USF got some great P5 teams on our schedule and even after having to buy some 1 and done games from Florida A&M and Bethune Cookman, we still Net over $3 million in profit.

So we have an amazing schedule and made extra profit... yet somehow that was a bad scheduling system. Sorry, but I hope we do it again. (given, we only have 2 open slots left for the next 6 years.)

I don't think anyone is giving you a hard time about Alabama and Florida. I honestly don't have an issue with Miami either as they are still seen as a top 25 type program by most. I do have an issue with you guys doing a 2-1 with Louisville as they don't deserve it at all. They had a good run but they aren't elite and it isn't even close. They aren't even a top 50 program honestly. if you want to do 2-1's with the upper crust that is fine but 2-1 with Louisville is beneath you trust me and it hurts scheduling for others in the league.

Lville is still P5, travels well which will increase our ticket sales and I think we get $1 million on the return game... it may be $750K. That much money covered 2 buy games. If we are gonna have to buy FCS or low end FBS games, then why not sign a 2-1 with a perceived higher program and them pay the cost of the games.

Id rather get 3 games with Lville and 2 buy games for even money, than a 1 and 1 with some CUSA or Sunbelt team.

You shouldn't view Louisville as higher than you.

(08-09-2019 12:41 PM)Chappy Wrote:  You shouldn't view Louisville as higher than you.

I dont but every sports writer in America does because of the P5 designation. We used to beat Lville and WVU... Cuse, Rutgers, TCU... doesnt matter. they have the tag and we want it.

(08-09-2019 09:20 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(08-09-2019 08:48 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  What kills me is that people see it as a bad move but USF got some great P5 teams on our schedule and even after having to buy some 1 and done games from Florida A&M and Bethune Cookman, we still Net over $3 million in profit.

So we have an amazing schedule and made extra profit... yet somehow that was a bad scheduling system. Sorry, but I hope we do it again. (given, we only have 2 open slots left for the next 6 years.)

I don't think anyone is giving you a hard time about Alabama and Florida. I honestly don't have an issue with Miami either as they are still seen as a top 25 type program by most. I do have an issue with you guys doing a 2-1 with Louisville as they don't deserve it at all. They had a good run but they aren't elite and it isn't even close. They aren't even a top 50 program honestly. if you want to do 2-1's with the upper crust that is fine but 2-1 with Louisville is beneath you trust me and it hurts scheduling for others in the league.

Yeah Louisville is probably on the list of teams I wouldn't do a 2-1 with, unless they wanted to extremely overpay for that 2nd home game. Louisville ain't enough of a draw at the gate to ensure a sellout, hell I've seen ECU play games against them in Greenville enough times to not really give a crap about it. Alabama and Florida absolutely if you can get them to agree to 2-1's take them all day and those are huge deals for USF.

(08-06-2019 10:20 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(08-06-2019 09:55 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(08-06-2019 09:24 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  It depends on who the 2-1 is with. For truly elite programs sure I'd be fine with a 2-1. I'm not fine with how we've allowed ourselves to get dicked around by mediocre ass South Carolina, and wouldn't want to set a precedent that we'd accept 2-1's with programs on the level of UNC or NC State.

I really go back and forth on this. Depending on what mood I'm in that day, I'm ok with a 2:1 with Alabama or Ohio State or similar programs. For UCF in particular, I don't support a 2:1 with UF or FSU. We're part of the same system, and they can play us on equal terms. I'm never ok with a 2:1 with **** like Miami, Louisville, and whatever other garbage we've seen recently.

I think UCF's problem in filling our schedule right now is less the 1:1 requirement and more that the ACC teams that we usually schedule 1:1 don't want to play a tough OOC game against us. Danny should have filled up the schedule for 10 years when we were 0-12.

I get the sentiment with UF and FSU, but they are national programs with multiple national championships. It would be similar if I said in hoops I would not accept a 2-1 with UNC, Duke, or NC State. It feels good to say but it's not reasonable. UF and FSU are in the probably 10-15 school list that I think is elite enough to make a 2-1 acceptable. The ECU fan below mentioning a 2-1 with Pitt or Cuse is exactly wrong that's not the type of program I'd ever accept one with. If as ECU you accept one with them UNC and NC State are going to rightfully say they are equal if not greater in stature than those 2 so why should we agree to equal terms.

If UF and FSU don't want to go 1:1, then that's fine. We don't need to play them to be successful. But I would not agree to a 2:1 with them or Miami.

Frankly, I don't see much value in playing them. We're selling out without them now. If we beat them, it'll be called a fluke and all the usual P5 excuses will be trotted out. Just like USF beating Miami and FSU really didn't do anything for their program. And if we lose, it'll be seen as evidence that we're not on their level and the P5 revisionist history will start calling it a blowout even if it's a close game like they're now doing with the 8 point loss to LSU. So it's really lose-lose, which means there's no reason to go 2-1 to get it on the schedule.

I think your angst should solely be toward the Gators that is always playing with a stacked deck. FSU has proven that they are willing to do 1-1s with USF on 2 different occasions, UofL while they were in C-USA and starting this year with Boise State. Not sure why FSU has not played UCF since 1995.

(08-10-2019 09:14 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think your angst should solely be toward the Gators that is always playing with a stacked deck. FSU has proven that they are willing to do 1-1s with USF on 2 different occasions, UofL while they were in C-USA and starting this year with Boise State. Not sure why FSU has not played UCF since 1995.

Y’all used to play us 1 for 1 until Bobby Bowden swore he’d never schedule us again.

(08-10-2019 09:14 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think your angst should solely be toward the Gators that is always playing with a stacked deck. FSU has proven that they are willing to do 1-1s with USF on 2 different occasions, UofL while they were in C-USA and starting this year with Boise State. Not sure why FSU has not played UCF since 1995.

I can't figure out why FSU is thinking of playing BSU in their home at all.

Recruiting: no
Money: no

Maybe it is a ESPiN thing (talking out my a** on this one).

ECU not looking to leave the AAC


http://www.reflector.com/ECU/2019/08/11/...ption.html

(08-11-2019 07:44 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  ECU not looking to leave the AAC


http://www.reflector.com/ECU/2019/08/11/...ption.html

In other news, the sky is still blue and Memphis still hasn't beaten UCF.

(08-11-2019 08:36 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(08-11-2019 07:44 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  ECU not looking to leave the AAC


http://www.reflector.com/ECU/2019/08/11/...ption.html

In other news, the sky is still blue and Memphis still hasn't beaten UCF.

I want to know who brought that up

(08-11-2019 07:44 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  ECU not looking to leave the AAC


http://www.reflector.com/ECU/2019/08/11/...ption.html

Might be the most insane news story since the formation of this conference. It is like a story that would come out of the onion.

Sounds weird, yet, if ECU decided to return to their previous conference (like UConn did) then they would have a standing invitation to come back to C*USA.

We’ll even hook ya up with the all-sports invite!!

Good plan for a few years... Eventually he should be looking primarily for 1 & 1, just like all AAC members should be doing.

(08-11-2019 12:06 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(08-10-2019 09:14 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  I think your angst should solely be toward the Gators that is always playing with a stacked deck. FSU has proven that they are willing to do 1-1s with USF on 2 different occasions, UofL while they were in C-USA and starting this year with Boise State. Not sure why FSU has not played UCF since 1995.

I can't figure out why FSU is thinking of playing BSU in their home at all.

Recruiting: no
Money: no

Maybe it is a ESPiN thing (talking out my a** on this one).

It has to be an ESPN thing... If FSU can do a 1 & 1 with BSU, the should definitely be able to do a 1 & 1 with UCF and a few other AAC top teams.