(06-26-2019 02:15 AM)templefootballfan Wrote: I'm sure their in meetings with ESPN to get this worked out
Trash Conn all you want, but facts are
Conn has some pull in NYC
ESPN+ took big hit losing WBB
Lost land grant school
FB sch very well OOC
ESPN located in Conn, lost some poltical clout
The value of UConn women’s bball is insanely overrated. It’s a cute talking point but watching the actual games is not fun. Geno said
on a podcast that the team has a group of UConn male students they scrimmage and the men crush the ladies. Let that sink in. Its silly.
The WBB ratings in general are terrible. It is what it is.
All you need to know about WBB is this, no tourney credits. Tells you the value right there.
(06-26-2019 06:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Things have to go on behind closed doors, get sign sealed and delivered, etc. before public statements are made.
Right now the closed door stuff is going on...meeting with schools who have reached out to the AAC, talking to UCONN for definitive dates, talking to UCONN about how they won't be allowed to keep their football parked in the AAC, talking to ESPN, etc.
This. When it’s all said and done, I think we will be pleasantly surprised by some of the schools currently reaching out to the AAC. The pay, exposure, academic ranking, and athletic strength makes this THE sought after destination for any team not in a P5. We will have options. It may not be BYU. It may not be just one school (might be a football only and a non-football school), but the AAC will have decent options for filling that UConn slot.
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2019 11:09 AM by Attackcoog.)
(06-26-2019 06:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Things have to go on behind closed doors, get sign sealed and delivered, etc. before public statements are made.
Right now the closed door stuff is going on...meeting with schools who have reached out to the AAC, talking to UCONN for definitive dates, talking to UCONN about how they won't be allowed to keep their football parked in the AAC, talking to ESPN, etc.
This. When it’s all said and done, I think we will be pleasantly surprised by some of the schools currently reaching out to the AAC. The pay, exposure, academic ranking, and athletic strength makes this THE sought after destination for any team not in a P5. We will have options. It may not be BYU. It may not be just one school (might be a football only and a non-football school), but the AAC will have decent options for filling that UConn slot.
Define decent. I doubt any P5 schools are interested. Other than BYU/Boise/maaaaybe Army, pretty much everyone represents a step down vs us at 11.
(06-26-2019 06:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Things have to go on behind closed doors, get sign sealed and delivered, etc. before public statements are made.
Right now the closed door stuff is going on...meeting with schools who have reached out to the AAC, talking to UCONN for definitive dates, talking to UCONN about how they won't be allowed to keep their football parked in the AAC, talking to ESPN, etc.
This. When it’s all said and done, I think we will be pleasantly surprised by some of the schools currently reaching out to the AAC. The pay, exposure, academic ranking, and athletic strength makes this THE sought after destination for any team not in a P5. We will have options. It may not be BYU. It may not be just one school (might be a football only and a non-football school), but the AAC will have decent options for filling that UConn slot.
Define decent. I doubt any P5 schools are interested. Other than BYU/Boise/maaaaybe Army, pretty much everyone represents a step down vs us at 11.
If the top options all fall through, Im thinking we end up with a Mountain West school from the eastern side of that conference. That type of add would be a solid institutional and budgetary match. Perhaps we also end up adding VCU to help further solidify basketball depth. I continue to believe that the absolute worst thing we can do is add a CUSA school---playing into the perception in some quarters that the AAC is just CUSA 2.0
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2019 11:43 AM by Attackcoog.)
Aresco can't really say anything until UConn signs a contract with the BE to move if and when they do. He will probably only acknowledge the fact that UConn is moving its BB and Olympic Sports to the BE at that time as all the legal implications and penalty fees will have to be worked out going forward at that time. All of that stuff will probably take a year of legal battles while UConn lame duck's this season before they leave and that lame duck season will probably be ugly too in the court system, on the FB field (especially when the AAC kicks UConn's FB to the curb after this year), and on the BB courts.
(06-26-2019 06:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Things have to go on behind closed doors, get sign sealed and delivered, etc. before public statements are made.
Right now the closed door stuff is going on...meeting with schools who have reached out to the AAC, talking to UCONN for definitive dates, talking to UCONN about how they won't be allowed to keep their football parked in the AAC, talking to ESPN, etc.
This. When it’s all said and done, I think we will be pleasantly surprised by some of the schools currently reaching out to the AAC. The pay, exposure, academic ranking, and athletic strength makes this THE sought after destination for any team not in a P5. We will have options. It may not be BYU. It may not be just one school (might be a football only and a non-football school), but the AAC will have decent options for filling that UConn slot.
Define decent. I doubt any P5 schools are interested. Other than BYU/Boise/maaaaybe Army, pretty much everyone represents a step down vs us at 11.
If the top options all fall through, Im thinking we end up with a Mountain West school from the eastern side of that conference. That type of add would be a solid institutional and budgetary match. Perhaps we also end up adding VCU to help further solidify basketball depth. I continue to believe that the absolute worst thing we can do is add a CUSA school---playing into the perception in some quarters that the AAC is just CUSA 2.0
A CUSA replacement only makes sense with the AAC headquarters moving to Texas if the conference wants to further cement itself in Texas, Florida, or along the Gulf Coast. If that is the case then Temple ends up on an island unless this conference picks a school between Philadelphia and North Carolina. I really don't think the AAC is going after UMASS with the Conference Head Quarters heading South and UConn gone. The North East and the Rhode Island Clambake will be abandoned and this conference will be a Mid - Atlantic, Midwest, Southeast, and Southwest conference eating barbeque and ribs. The Women's BB Tournament will be leaving the Mohican in Connecticut after next year too. UMASS will have to team up with UConn FB as independents or try to approach the other G5 conferences (which at this time don't want them) as a tandem package for FB only.
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2019 12:08 PM by panite.)
(06-26-2019 06:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Things have to go on behind closed doors, get sign sealed and delivered, etc. before public statements are made.
Right now the closed door stuff is going on...meeting with schools who have reached out to the AAC, talking to UCONN for definitive dates, talking to UCONN about how they won't be allowed to keep their football parked in the AAC, talking to ESPN, etc.
This. When it’s all said and done, I think we will be pleasantly surprised by some of the schools currently reaching out to the AAC. The pay, exposure, academic ranking, and athletic strength makes this THE sought after destination for any team not in a P5. We will have options. It may not be BYU. It may not be just one school (might be a football only and a non-football school), but the AAC will have decent options for filling that UConn slot.
Define decent. I doubt any P5 schools are interested. Other than BYU/Boise/maaaaybe Army, pretty much everyone represents a step down vs us at 11.
If the top options all fall through, Im thinking we end up with a Mountain West school from the eastern side of that conference. That type of add would be a solid institutional and budgetary match. Perhaps we also end up adding VCU to help further solidify basketball depth. I continue to believe that the absolute worst thing we can do is add a CUSA school---playing into the perception in some quarters that the AAC is just CUSA 2.0
A CUSA replacement only makes sense with the AAC headquarters moving to Texas if the conference wants to further cement itself in Texas, Florida, or along the Gulf Coast. If that is the case then Temple ends up on an island unless this conference picks a school between Philadelphia and North Carolina. I really don't think the AAC is going after UMASS with the Conference Head Quarters heading South and UConn gone. The North East and the Rhode Island Clambake will be abandoned and this conference will be a Mid - Atlantic, Midwest, Southeast, and Southwest conference eating barbeque and ribs. The Women's BB Tournament will be leaving the Mohican in Connecticut after next year too. UMASS will have to team up with UConn FB as independents or try to approach the other G5 conferences (which at this time don't want them) as a tandem package for FB only.
Good point about the tournament moving. My guess is it gets put in Dallas too, lots of arena's that could hold it without having it at SMU. Dickie's is probably available but a 8k arena might be better. Putting then on at roughly the same time will help with attendance.
Is there anyone here who is happy with the job that Mike Aresco is doing? He is terrible at his job. It didn't have to be this way for UConn with a competent commissioner at the helm. My problem is that did he even want to shop around if he didn't like the ESPN deal or was he willing to take whatever ESPN offered since he apparently can't sever from them?
For UConn, it was the reduction of linear exposure combined with the length of the contract that broke the camel's back. 7mm seems like good money now, but why lock in for 12 years for that money? Expenses keep going up and UConn is already drowning in 40mm of annual debt. The 7mm doesn't solve our problem now looking at our expenses, never mind what the 7mm will be worth due to inflation in 7 to 12 years. Aresco should have said, "Thanks, ESPN, but we are going to shop around." What a putz. You all deserve better than that clown.
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2019 01:01 PM by UConnHusky.)
(06-26-2019 06:46 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Things have to go on behind closed doors, get sign sealed and delivered, etc. before public statements are made.
Right now the closed door stuff is going on...meeting with schools who have reached out to the AAC, talking to UCONN for definitive dates, talking to UCONN about how they won't be allowed to keep their football parked in the AAC, talking to ESPN, etc.
This. When it’s all said and done, I think we will be pleasantly surprised by some of the schools currently reaching out to the AAC. The pay, exposure, academic ranking, and athletic strength makes this THE sought after destination for any team not in a P5. We will have options. It may not be BYU. It may not be just one school (might be a football only and a non-football school), but the AAC will have decent options for filling that UConn slot.
Define decent. I doubt any P5 schools are interested. Other than BYU/Boise/maaaaybe Army, pretty much everyone represents a step down vs us at 11.
If the top options all fall through, Im thinking we end up with a Mountain West school from the eastern side of that conference. That type of add would be a solid institutional and budgetary match. Perhaps we also end up adding VCU to help further solidify basketball depth. I continue to believe that the absolute worst thing we can do is add a CUSA school---playing into the perception in some quarters that the AAC is just CUSA 2.0
A CUSA replacement only makes sense with the AAC headquarters moving to Texas if the conference wants to further cement itself in Texas, Florida, or along the Gulf Coast. If that is the case then Temple ends up on an island unless this conference picks a school between Philadelphia and North Carolina. I really don't think the AAC is going after UMASS with the Conference Head Quarters heading South and UConn gone. The North East and the Rhode Island Clambake will be abandoned and this conference will be a Mid - Atlantic, Midwest, Southeast, and Southwest conference eating barbeque and ribs. The Women's BB Tournament will be leaving the Mohican in Connecticut after next year too. UMASS will have to team up with UConn FB as independents or try to approach the other G5 conferences (which at this time don't want them) as a tandem package for FB only.
(06-26-2019 01:01 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: Is there anyone here who is happy with the job that Mike Aresco is doing? He is terrible at his job. It didn't have to be this way for UConn with a competent commissioner at the helm. My problem is that did he even want to shop around if he didn't like the ESPN deal or was he willing to take whatever ESPN offered since he apparently can't sever from them?
For UConn, it was the reduction of linear exposure combined with the length of the contract that broke the camel's back. 7mm seems like good money now, but why lock in for 12 years for that money? Expenses keep going up and UConn is already drowning in 40mm of annual debt. The 7mm doesn't solve our problem now looking at our expenses, never mind what the 7mm will be worth due to inflation in 7 to 12 years. Aresco should have said, "Thanks, ESPN, but we are going to shop around." What a putz. You all deserve better than that clown.
Yes. Again, this is a UConn problem. Get your own house in order and quit blaming every conference admin or conference mate for your own problems.
Especially good to pipe down during a period when providing very little value of your own to said conference. Maybe if UConn basketball could finish upper half and the football squad wasn't an FBS laughing-stock Aresco would have had something more with which to negotiate.
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2019 01:47 PM by Wudizzle.)
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