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RE: Latest McMurphy article: BYU, Army, or stay at 11 most likely.
(06-24-2019 02:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 02:07 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I love the fact that the article compared us to the Big 12 during their "should we or shouldn't we expand?" fiasco.

Hilarious.

thought the same thing

Aresco needs to send out invites to Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion, So Miss etc. and have them come do a song and dance and then tell them all no.

We also slowly disqualify each member to add to the sting. Like a weekly bachelorette show.
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(06-24-2019 02:09 PM)usffan Wrote:  Won't be shocked if BYU comes on board as a scheduling hedge (already tried to detail it in the "stay at 11" thread). If we stay at 11 with 2 divisions, it's impossible to create a schedule of just AAC teams that doesn't result in two East teams having to do a home/home in a single year. But if we align with BYU for 2 East games every year that count as AAC games for those 2 teams, we might have BYU join into our bowl coalition (which we know they need).

I suppose we could do the same with Army, too.

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BYU and probably the service academies would give us a better chance at landing a contract NY6 bowl bid annually. Something I know Aresco wants badly.
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RE: Latest McMurphy article: BYU, Army, or stay at 11 most likely.
(06-24-2019 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 02:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 02:07 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I love the fact that the article compared us to the Big 12 during their "should we or shouldn't we expand?" fiasco.

Hilarious.

thought the same thing

Aresco needs to send out invites to Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion, So Miss etc. and have them come do a song and dance and then tell them all no.

We also slowly disqualify each member to add to the sting. Like a weekly bachelorette show.

that was the best part lol

it exposed so many insiders...if they had just said no to everyone..the insiders would have just said they changed their minds...
but certain insider were saying to was down to certain teams and it was a lock for these teams if they decided to expand

the big 12 relseases a top 10 and said schoosl not on it ..hilarious
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(06-24-2019 01:52 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 01:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 01:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Only little b****es comment anonymously.

So “HuskyU” is your real name? 03-wink

LOL. That was good.

A+ hahahha I lol at this one
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(06-24-2019 01:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  My thoughts:

- UConn football will be FCS by 2025 if not sooner

- Do not give an inch to BYU on preferred treatment. The AAC has brands that are already more valuable than BYU and have achieved far more for the conference, they get the same deal as everyone or nothing.

But the conference already gives Navy a somewhat special deal with their CBSSN contract. So there is somewhat of a precedent set for special circumstances. Navy is a team player though and all in on the AAC, so there's that. I can see BYU being difficult in that regard. I'm not big on BYU but I can see how they would be a good add for the football side, stubbornness aside.
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(06-24-2019 02:07 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 01:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Plus some serious smackdowns of UConn from unnamed AAC sources, including calling them "delusional".

https://watchstadium.com/news/how-uconns...6-24-2019/

As far as UConn’s chances to remain a football-only member in the American, one source summed it up this way: “They are delusional.”

Multiple sources said UConn had been told a football-only membership was not possible if it left for the Big East.

“We can’t believe UConn even thought we would consider (allowing UConn a football-only membership), and frankly thought that was made clear to them long ago every time a rumor popped up about them and the Big East,” a source said.

So UConn’s most likely – perhaps only – option at the FBS level is as an independent. That would be tough financially and schedule-wise; good luck getting teams to visit East Hartford, Conn., in late October or November.

FBS independents Army and BYU are the most likely candidates for the American’s 12th team, multiple sources said. “Both have many caveats,” a source said. It’s quite possible neither school wants to join, but as attractive as they are to the American, there are some concerns.

So the American has to make a decision in the next several months: stay at 11 or get back to 12?

“Is 11 better? With fewer pieces of the pie there is more revenue for the 11 schools to split than 12. Plus there’s no perfect or obvious choice as our 12th member.”

Another source admitted that “other than the service academies and perhaps BYU, I can’t see anyone rising up that makes it better to add than to stay pat at 11.

“I guess,” he said laughing, “we sound like the Big 12 when it decided not to expand a few years ago.”


Article is spot on. BYU, Army, or maybe AF. That’s it or stay at 11.

Don’t even think about any other candidates from lower leagues.

If everyone singes a GOR then staying at 11 will be fine... otherwise it's 14 to protect the conference and post season qualifying requirements... period......


Oh wait, I'm not involved in the negotiations 03-lmfao
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(06-24-2019 02:17 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 01:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  My thoughts:

- UConn football will be FCS by 2025 if not sooner

- Do not give an inch to BYU on preferred treatment. The AAC has brands that are already more valuable than BYU and have achieved far more for the conference, they get the same deal as everyone or nothing.

But the conference already gives Navy a somewhat special deal with their CBSSN contract. So there is somewhat of a precedent set for special circumstances. Navy is a team player though and all in on the AAC, so there's that. I can see BYU being difficult in that regard. I'm not big on BYU but I can see how they would be a good add for the football side, stubbornness aside.

They also get to keep the Army/Navy game money, which I'm ok with.
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Timing for BYU is good. Their TV contract runs through 2019. What are they being paid? Also
BYU is not eligible for a NY6 Bowl, being in the AAC they would be.
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(06-24-2019 02:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Air Force to the AAC football only and olympic sports to the WAC (AAC can grab up VCU too if they like)

UTEP to the MWC to replace Air Force

UConn to CUSA as a football only

everyone walks away happy-ish

UCONN FB only is pretty low on our list of replacements for UTEP. Just behind UMASS FB only.
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I'm pleased with the approach the AAC is apparently taking. BYU, Army, Air Force, or nobody (though I'd be fine with Boise).

Also, I wouldn't assume BYU's concessions mentioned above are all about $$$. It could have to do with replay rights on the BYU network and Sunday scheduling.
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(06-24-2019 02:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 02:07 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I love the fact that the article compared us to the Big 12 during their "should we or shouldn't we expand?" fiasco.

Hilarious.

thought the same thing

Aresco needs to send out invites to Ga. State, UAB, Old Dominion, So Miss etc. and have them come do a song and dance and then tell them all no.

Oh man, haha!
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(06-24-2019 02:20 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Timing for BYU is good. Their TV contract runs through 2019. What are they being paid? Also
BYU is not eligible for a NY6 Bowl, being in the AAC they would be.

Exactly. People saying this can't happen either have an agenda, under value this league, or just have a negative attitude. There are serious negotiations going on right now and BYU to the AAC is a real, dare I say likely, possibility.
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(06-24-2019 02:20 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 02:17 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 01:59 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  My thoughts:

- UConn football will be FCS by 2025 if not sooner

- Do not give an inch to BYU on preferred treatment. The AAC has brands that are already more valuable than BYU and have achieved far more for the conference, they get the same deal as everyone or nothing.

But the conference already gives Navy a somewhat special deal with their CBSSN contract. So there is somewhat of a precedent set for special circumstances. Navy is a team player though and all in on the AAC, so there's that. I can see BYU being difficult in that regard. I'm not big on BYU but I can see how they would be a good add for the football side, stubbornness aside.

They also get to keep the Army/Navy game money, which I'm ok with.

Same.

So whatever it takes as long as they aren't dictating ridiculous terms.
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(06-24-2019 01:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 01:54 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
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(06-24-2019 01:50 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  So UConn leaves and the remaining schools get a ~$1m annual pay raise (TV contract, CFP money)?

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of UConn athletics.

just keep the million ea. and stay at 11.

Regardless of what happens on the football side, we need to at least add VCU in hoops.

im good with VCU hoops....


are there any VCU fans that have come up in here to talk? I haven't seen one. Would love some hot takes from some Ram fans.

Looks like mainly against it. They feel like travel would be worse, revenue distribution would be worse and they don't have trouble getting to the NCAA's from the A10.

https://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/thre...14/page-20

I need to go take a scalding hot shower now.
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(06-24-2019 01:34 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Another source admitted that “other than the service academies and perhaps BYU, I can’t see anyone rising up that makes it better to add than to stay pat at 11.

I dont think it was ever really all that close. They were close with the school administrators---Im not sure we were ever really in the game with the LDS leadership.
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(06-24-2019 02:23 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm pleased with the approach the AAC is apparently taking. BYU, Army, or nobody (though I'd be fine with Boise).

Also, I wouldn't assume BYU's concessions mentioned above are all about $$$. It could have to do with replay rights on the BYU network and Sunday scheduling.

In the 2016 Big XII expansion thought BYU wanted broadcast rights to OOC Home games for BYUtv and Replay rights for conference home games for BYUtv... I could be wrong.

Don't think the asked for anything else other than no Sunday sports
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If I’m BYU I try to pry the best possible deal I can out of the AAC and jump headfirst into the West Division.

If they’re as good as they believe they’ll skate to 5 straight NY6’s and then leave since they’re a lock for the Big 12 in 2025. (so they believe)
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(06-24-2019 02:25 PM)B easy Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 02:20 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Timing for BYU is good. Their TV contract runs through 2019. What are they being paid? Also
BYU is not eligible for a NY6 Bowl, being in the AAC they would be.

Exactly. People saying this can't happen either have an agenda, under value this league, or just have a negative attitude. There are serious negotiations going on right now and BYU to the AAC is a real, dare I say likely, possibility.

Hopefully ESPiN is in matchmaking mode right now.
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For all the talk of BYU as a football member, please explain how they're going to cancel a whole bunch of football contracts...

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/

That's a pretty full dance card for quite a few years...

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(06-24-2019 02:33 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  If I’m BYU I try to pry the best possible deal I can out of the AAC and jump headfirst into the West Division.

If they’re as good as they believe they’ll skate to 5 straight NY6’s and then leave since they’re a lock for the Big 12 in 2025. (so they believe)

LOL I respect their program but there are some really good teams in the AAC.
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