(06-22-2019 07:23 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Where are all the Aresco defenders and his massive contract relative to what AAC schools are paid? You know the Cinci admin is has a lot of conversations as well right now. This guy is the biggest fraud in all of sports. He has accomplished absolutely nothing that a first yeAr sports management student could not have done. NOTHING!!! UConn is going to basically throw away their FBall investments for their hate of the AAC.

Pretty sure we could have gotten 100 million per team and UConn would have still tried to go to the big east. It was an irrational desire since the day the conference was formed

(06-22-2019 07:57 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:54 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I've said elsewhere...its a great move for them. They get back to NE hoops, they play teams they give a rats about, and the Big East is a power conference. Does it strike the final blow for football, sure, but lets be honest, their football program is DOA anyway.

They see the writing on the wall. There football is horrible and they have no talent in the region. They get away from a few programs in the AAC that have no interest in playing major sports. There is a core group in the AAC that cares though. Guessing UConn will be FCS soon and they can focus on hoops.

It seems like only yesterday I was saying,

I don't really get UConn. Since 2015 their recruiting classes have been ranked by 247 Sports as 99, 99, 101, 106 and now 126 this year. Edsall has proven he can coach, but it's like there's no interest there. This is not a jab at UConn, I hope they can get this fixed. Football going in the tank at ECU led to protest banners from planes over the stadium and the ouster of the coach, AD, chancellor and the chairman of the board of trustees. I don't see any passion for football at UConn. I guess UConn football = ECU basketball.

Oh wait, I did say that yesterday. Maybe this was their "fix".

(06-22-2019 02:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It's not just you. I just said essentially the same thing in another thread.

And you didn't even mention that they just permanently threw football under the bus.

Is it possible that UConn's administration is just absolutely tone deaf and incapable of reading the tea leaves. This article suggests that UConn's administration was assuming they would be allowed to just park their football in the AAC.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ly-member/


Now think about it. If you actually believe you can stay in the AAC---as the article suggests--then moving to the Big East makes tremendous financial sense. You get a full football only share of the new AAC media deal (.7 x 7 million equals 4.9 million) plus you get a full share of the Big East TV deal (4 million). So, now instead of making 7 million a year from TV--your making 8.9 million a year---plus whatever you are allowed to make under third tier rights in the BE).

On top of that, UConn would still get a full share of CFP income and bowl revenue. But it doesnt stop there. They would also get a full share of the BE pot of NCAA basketball credits--which is larger and growing faster than the AAC pot of NCAA credits. And---the cherry on top---I suspect you dont have to pay an exit fee if you are still an AAC football member.

But lets be honest. Your not very good at reading people if your going to soak up the lions share of the realignment fund, move your most valuable asset to a competitor when the fund is exhausted, and expect the other members to save a reserved parking space for possibly the worst football team in FBS. It will be shocking if we eventually find UConn's leadership was this tone deaf.

So the elite Big East broke down from its private/Catholic stance and UConn vomited up football to get into a conference that receives no exposure.

Seems like a desperate move by both parties.

The UCONN Fans never cared about football...and this move basically helps them kill their money losing program (lost almost $9 Million in 2017-2018 from just football and even will end up losing more this past 2018-2019 season).

Some UCONN leaders will "pretend" they will try and find a I-A home for UCONN Football...and then after a few months...(probably after the 2019 season), they will just announce they will END their program...or find someone in I-AA to take them with a much smaller budget and much smaller scholarship limit.

FCS is on the near term radar at UConn. Save money in football and toss everything into basketball.

Or do 4 home games and 8 body bag games on the road to raise money.

(06-22-2019 10:13 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:57 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:54 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I've said elsewhere...its a great move for them. They get back to NE hoops, they play teams they give a rats about, and the Big East is a power conference. Does it strike the final blow for football, sure, but lets be honest, their football program is DOA anyway.

They see the writing on the wall. There football is horrible and they have no talent in the region. They get away from a few programs in the AAC that have no interest in playing major sports. There is a core group in the AAC that cares though. Guessing UConn will be FCS soon and they can focus on hoops.

It seems like only yesterday I was saying,

I don't really get UConn. Since 2015 their recruiting classes have been ranked by 247 Sports as 99, 99, 101, 106 and now 126 this year. Edsall has proven he can coach, but it's like there's no interest there. This is not a jab at UConn, I hope they can get this fixed. Football going in the tank at ECU led to protest banners from planes over the stadium and the ouster of the coach, AD, chancellor and the chairman of the board of trustees. I don't see any passion for football at UConn. I guess UConn football = ECU basketball.

Oh wait, I did say that yesterday. Maybe this was their "fix".

UConn has a grand total of zero commits at the moment.

Much lesser G4 programs would give anything to play AAC football programs on a regular basis.

(06-22-2019 03:29 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 03:26 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 03:24 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  I know they don't care about football and this move makes that crystal clear (which is extremely short sighted to begin with) but if you thought UCONN football recruiting was poor already just wait and watch a program burn. Can you imagine what their current recruits and underclassman are thinking now? Any program can just come and tell a recruit, why play at a place that at best you won't be able to play for anything meaningful. No access bowl, no CFB playoff $, no conference championship, no one in the stands, nothing.

Football dwarf's basketball $ and they could of stayed and grown with the AAC. The trajectory of the 2 conferences are like night & day. The Big 12 is happy where they are and the Big East would take UCONN at any point in the future so that should have no bearing. If you don't think the Big 12 is stable then look at this article where Okla pres just stated that the Big 12 has entered a period of prosperity.

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...prosperity

UCONN just made a critical mistake that gives them no chance of big money and exposure moving forward and as each year elapses that will become more and more patently apparent.

Football’s costs dwarf basketball too.

But they are still playing football and will still have to travel and field a team, they just thwarted their ability to effectively benefit from it.

There are three independents around them they can likely schedule annually. It's not out of the real of possibilities that they can build an attractive schedule of somewhat regional schools.

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(06-22-2019 05:29 PM)spenser Wrote:  UConn is stupid they gave up:

Any chance of ever getting into a better conference.

Must pay 10milliin dollar exit fee, more to leave before 27months.

Get paid less in Big East, I hope they make them phase in to full share.

Get no share of CFPO, NY6 invites, or bowl tie-ins.

Now get the priviledge to loose home and home FB games to Liberty and New Mexico State annually.

Is the new contract in effect yet?

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(06-22-2019 07:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:28 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Wolken's take, seems to agree with most of us here.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co...-C1PUTGv4s

The Huskies should drop football. Only ND can make it as an independent and they have a scheduling deal with the ACC . It would be unwise to continue football outside of the P5 /AAC . Who going to play them home and home ? UMASS , Army and who else ?

Navy

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(06-23-2019 11:30 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:28 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Wolken's take, seems to agree with most of us here.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co...-C1PUTGv4s

The Huskies should drop football. Only ND can make it as an independent and they have a scheduling deal with the ACC . It would be unwise to continue football outside of the P5 /AAC . Who going to play them home and home ? UMASS , Army and who else ?

Navy

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Sorry, no.
No room on the schedule. 8 conference games, Army, ND, Air Force, and one more home game (because with Army and ND at neutral sites, that final game is often only the 5th for the season ticket package for Navy Marine Corps Memorial Stadium). For home only and we like Ws that has been FCS, and recently exclusively Patriot Leagues partners. I suppose we could do a rare one-off NMCMS game vs UConn.
For history's sake, before we were conference partners, Navy and UConn had a 4- or 6-game H&H scheduled in the early 2000s. In 2002, Edsall came to Annapolis and gave Paul Johnson one of his 10 Ls in his first year. In 2006, Navy went up to UConn and racked up 464 yds rushing, 628 yds total in a 41-17 win over Edsall's team. UConn canceled the remaining games of the series.

(06-23-2019 11:54 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 11:30 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:37 PM)First Family Forever Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 07:28 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Wolken's take, seems to agree with most of us here.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co...-C1PUTGv4s

The Huskies should drop football. Only ND can make it as an independent and they have a scheduling deal with the ACC . It would be unwise to continue football outside of the P5 /AAC . Who going to play them home and home ? UMASS , Army and who else ?

Navy

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Sorry, no.
No room on the schedule. 8 conference games, Army, ND, Air Force, and one more home game (because with Army and ND at neutral sites, that final game is often only the 5th for the season ticket package for Navy Marine Corps Memorial Stadium). For home only and we like Ws that has been FCS, and recently exclusively Patriot Leagues partners. I suppose we could do a rare one-off NMCMS game vs UConn.
For history's sake, before we were conference partners, Navy and UConn had a 4- or 6-game H&H scheduled in the early 2000s. In 2002, Edsall came to Annapolis and gave Paul Johnson one of his 10 Ls in his first year. In 2006, Navy went up to UConn and racked up 464 yds rushing, 628 yds total in a 41-17 win over Edsall's team. UConn canceled the remaining games of the series.

I wasn't sure about Navy at first but yall have been a damn good addition. The polar opposite of the Army-Cusa fiasco years ago. If Army could step up like Navy, Aresco should be all over them.

On csnbbs board I read Conn new deal with SNY is 10 million dollar range
Would include FB, WBB & tier 3

Basiclly AAC lost its most valuable property

I'm confused Navy is FB only
Looking at Army, BYU for FB only
Why not Conn, leverage BB games for deal
With 2 million exit fee, staying at 11 for BB, BE BB games
Everybody gets pay bump

(06-23-2019 12:24 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  On csnbbs board I read Conn new deal with SNY is 10 million dollar range
Would include FB, WBB & tier 3

Basiclly AAC lost its most valuable property

I'm confused Navy is FB only
Looking at Army, BYU for FB only
Why not Conn, leverage BB games for deal
With 2 million exit fee, staying at 11 for BB, BE BB games
Everybody gets pay bump

Are you referring to that SFHusky post?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

(06-23-2019 10:30 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  The UCONN Fans never cared about football...and this move basically helps them kill their money losing program (lost almost $9 Million in 2017-2018 from just football and even will end up losing more this past 2018-2019 season).

Some UCONN leaders will "pretend" they will try and find a I-A home for UCONN Football...and then after a few months...(probably after the 2019 season), they will just announce they will END their program...or find someone in I-AA to take them with a much smaller budget and much smaller scholarship limit.

Pretty much. For all the noise made about the exit fee, UConn writes that check and then some every single year just to open the doors of the Burton facility. If football goes, UConn's in the black on this move almost immediately and it's just compounding savings from there.

Responding to the OP: It’s only a terrible decision if UConn wants to maintain a viable FBS-level football program. However, it seems like UConn is ready/willing to kiss football goodbye and focus on basketball. In which case, no this is not a terrible decision. Quite the opposite.

(06-22-2019 10:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 02:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  It's not just you. I just said essentially the same thing in another thread.

And you didn't even mention that they just permanently threw football under the bus.

Is it possible that UConn's administration is just absolutely tone deaf and incapable of reading the tea leaves. This article suggests that UConn's administration was assuming they would be allowed to just park their football in the AAC.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ly-member/


Now think about it. If you actually believe you can stay in the AAC---as the article suggests--then moving to the Big East makes tremendous financial sense. You get a full football only share of the new AAC media deal (.7 x 7 million equals 4.9 million) plus you get a full share of the Big East TV deal (4 million). So, now instead of making 7 million a year from TV--your making 8.9 million a year---plus whatever you are allowed to make under third tier rights in the BE).

On top of that, UConn would still get a full share of CFP income and bowl revenue. But it doesnt stop there. They would also get a full share of the BE pot of NCAA basketball credits--which is larger and growing faster than the AAC pot of NCAA credits. And---the cherry on top---I suspect you dont have to pay an exit fee if you are still an AAC football member.

But lets be honest. Your not very good at reading people if your going to soak up the lions share of the realignment fund, move your most valuable asset to a competitor when the fund is exhausted, and expect the other members to save a reserved parking space for possibly the worst football team in FBS. It will be shocking if we eventually find UConn's leadership was this tone deaf.

Holy cow, I just read that article. Certainly sounds like that's what UConn thought they could do. Take away basketball, leave us the football team, and double dip on conference distributions. Yeah, right...I have a little less sympathy for them today.

(06-23-2019 03:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Responding to the OP: It’s only a terrible decision if UConn wants to maintain a viable FBS-level football program. However, it seems like UConn is ready/willing to kiss football goodbye and focus on basketball. In which case, no this is not a terrible decision. Quite the opposite.

But if you read the article Attack posted, an AAC source says UConn assumed they could park their football here.

I will probably never understand the logic that went into this decision. Every rationalization and theory posted has all sounded insane. From Geno being a master manipulator to UConn giving up on their ACC pursuit. SNY tv deal being the last straw... when the industry as a whole is moving to streaming services.

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