(06-14-2019 09:39 AM)KnightNasty Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 08:08 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 07:53 AM)KnightNasty Wrote:  

(06-13-2019 05:55 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  With gameday revenues of around $3M per home game, it's clear why UCF should absolutely reject the idea of losing a game at Spectrum to go fill someone else's coffers instead.

Do you have a link or any data referencing the $3mil in revenue per home game?

Danny White said a bit over $2 million in the past. There are more premium seats/field Cabans now and more sellouts. Probably is getting close to $3 million if not already there.

Do you have a link?

That was probably 4 years ago in an interview. I don't have a link but he said it. Makes sense it is $3 million now.

Well done... any word on your expansion efforts. Havent heard anything recently but I thought your stadium was going to 50K or something like that.

(06-14-2019 11:43 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Well done... any word on your expansion efforts. Havent heard anything recently but I thought your stadium was going to 50K or something like that.

I think the plan is to increase number the suites/club. Probably after that would be adding more regular seating. Around 45k is probably a good number to keep demand though.

And, we get an 8th home game this year thanks to being able to take over FAU's little stadium in Boca.

Folks...let's please use ACCURATE information in our posts please. I don't want to quote posts to call anyone out, but here are some facts.

UCF does NOT make $3 million in profit on a home game. Danny white is quoted as saying (I cannot find a link right now) that UCF's per game revenue is APPROACHING $3 million per game, depending on the specific game.

Using 2018 seating and prices, and making a few assumptions for the sections that offer discount plans such as young alumni or family plans, the seats in the bowl account for about $1.5 million in revenue per game.

The 20 tower suites probably account for a total of about $400K per game.

The 17 Field Cabanas account for about $34K per game.

So, for tickets alone...not accounting for advertising/sponsorship and concessions that comes to just under $2 million per game.

(06-14-2019 02:03 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  Folks...let's please use ACCURATE information in our posts please. I don't want to quote posts to call anyone out, but here are some facts.

UCF does NOT make $3 million in profit on a home game. Danny white is quoted as saying (I cannot find a link right now) that UCF's per game revenue is APPROACHING $3 million per game, depending on the specific game.

Using 2018 seating and prices, and making a few assumptions for the sections that offer discount plans such as young alumni or family plans, the seats in the bowl account for about $1.5 million in revenue per game.

The 20 tower suites probably account for a total of about $400K per game.

The 17 Field Cabanas account for about $34K per game.

So, for tickets alone...not accounting for advertising/sponsorship and concessions that comes to just under $2 million per game.

We said $3 million a game which is revenue which you're clarifying?

(06-14-2019 03:29 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 02:03 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  Folks...let's please use ACCURATE information in our posts please. I don't want to quote posts to call anyone out, but here are some facts.

UCF does NOT make $3 million in profit on a home game. Danny white is quoted as saying (I cannot find a link right now) that UCF's per game revenue is APPROACHING $3 million per game, depending on the specific game.

Using 2018 seating and prices, and making a few assumptions for the sections that offer discount plans such as young alumni or family plans, the seats in the bowl account for about $1.5 million in revenue per game.

The 20 tower suites probably account for a total of about $400K per game.

The 17 Field Cabanas account for about $34K per game.

So, for tickets alone...not accounting for advertising/sponsorship and concessions that comes to just under $2 million per game.

We said $3 million a game which is revenue which you're clarifying?

I am clarifying two things.

At least one UCF fan said UCF makes a $3 million PROFIT on each home game, which is not true.

Another UCF fan is saying that UCF's revenue is OVER $3 million per game...which based on my understanding of what DW said, is also not true.

What I remember is DW saying (after the end of the 2018 football season) that "UCF's revenue is approaching $3 million for some games." That can mean different things to different people. To me it means that for premiere games (like USF or 2018 vs Cincinnati) that are over capacity and where UCF implemented "dynamic pricing," that revenue goes up above the $2.5 million range.

(06-14-2019 09:44 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 09:39 AM)KnightNasty Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 08:08 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 07:53 AM)KnightNasty Wrote:  

(06-13-2019 05:55 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  With gameday revenues of around $3M per home game, it's clear why UCF should absolutely reject the idea of losing a game at Spectrum to go fill someone else's coffers instead.

Do you have a link or any data referencing the $3mil in revenue per home game?

Danny White said a bit over $2 million in the past. There are more premium seats/field Cabans now and more sellouts. Probably is getting close to $3 million if not already there.

Do you have a link?

Director of UCF Broadcasting, Marc Daniels, noted multiple times over the past month that UCF's soldout total game revenue is now $3 Million.

Thanks. Does he have a podcast by chance?

Your football team makes me so jealous. You are the pride of AAC, but may have your hands full with UC and Temple this year. We are coming on and I expect to challenge Memphis and Houston for the West this year again. We'll do our part on your behalf by knocking off Temple in Dallas.

The most recent numbers I’ve seen reported is revenue between $3-$4m. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlando...Type%3Damp

Is Bianchi inflating numbers or is he basing it off info he would have gathered by having better connections than we do? I don’t know. At the end of the day it seems like $3m in revenue is a safe bet, which given the fact season tickets will sell out means that’s likely a floor.

And the more important thing is that with an athletics department that has to operate on razor thin margins due to a small media deal and a sliver of the CFP revenue, that $3m is massive. And something where you can’t start giving up home games. Because buy games or a payout at the end of a 3 game 2-1 series will not add up for us. UCF has been down the buy game and 2-1 series road and I don’t think we can return. As recently as 2005, we ended up with 4 regular season home games due to that.

(06-14-2019 06:39 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  The most recent numbers I’ve seen reported is revenue between $3-$4m. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlando...Type%3Damp

Is Bianchi inflating numbers or is he basing it off info he would have gathered by having better connections than we do? I don’t know. At the end of the day it seems like $3m in revenue is a safe bet, which given the fact season tickets will sell out means that’s likely a floor.

And the more important thing is that with an athletics department that has to operate on razor thin margins due to a small media deal and a sliver of the CFP revenue, that $3m is massive. And something where you can’t start giving up home games. Because buy games or a payout at the end of a 3 game 2-1 series will not add up for us. UCF has been down the buy game and 2-1 series road and I don’t think we can return. As recently as 2005, we ended up with 4 regular season home games due to that.

Agreed on the reason UCF cannot give up home games.

Bianchi is definitely inflating his numbers. It was LESS than eight months ago that Danny White said that some UCF games are APPROACHING $3 million.

2019 could be a slight increase compared to 2018. Black & Gold Cabana on the east side is growing larger by over 800 seats, but the total number of seats in the stadium will go down because they are removing a couple of rows at the top of the Cabana to add more concessions.

The Cabana season prices are also going up from $500 to $600 per seat. One or two other sections have moderate price increases, but most of the stadium prices are the same as last year.

Also, with all tickets sold at discount season ticket prices, you have a smaller number of tickets you can sell at higher single game rates (or dynamic pricing rates for premium games.

(06-14-2019 08:23 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 06:39 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  The most recent numbers I’ve seen reported is revenue between $3-$4m. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlando...Type%3Damp

Is Bianchi inflating numbers or is he basing it off info he would have gathered by having better connections than we do? I don’t know. At the end of the day it seems like $3m in revenue is a safe bet, which given the fact season tickets will sell out means that’s likely a floor.

And the more important thing is that with an athletics department that has to operate on razor thin margins due to a small media deal and a sliver of the CFP revenue, that $3m is massive. And something where you can’t start giving up home games. Because buy games or a payout at the end of a 3 game 2-1 series will not add up for us. UCF has been down the buy game and 2-1 series road and I don’t think we can return. As recently as 2005, we ended up with 4 regular season home games due to that.

Agreed on the reason UCF cannot give up home games.

Bianchi is definitely inflating his numbers. It was LESS than eight months ago that Danny White said that some UCF games are APPROACHING $3 million.

2019 could be a slight increase compared to 2018. Black & Gold Cabana on the east side is growing larger by over 800 seats, but the total number of seats in the stadium will go down because they are removing a couple of rows at the top of the Cabana to add more concessions.

The Cabana season prices are also going up from $500 to $600 per seat. One or two other sections have moderate price increases, but most of the stadium prices are the same as last year.

Also, with all tickets sold at discount season ticket prices, you have a smaller number of tickets you can sell at higher single game rates (or dynamic pricing rates for premium games.

Slight increase?

Those 835 new Cabana Club seats are 3 times the cost of the old bleacher seats...plus all of those new 835 have access to alcohol and upgraded concessions too.

Also, those thousands of Cabana Seats all saw an increase from $71.42 per game to $100 per game this year too.

Plus, that doesn't take in account the new Lodge Table Seats in the NW Corner that easily sold out prior to being built this Spring (SW Corner Loge Table Seats shown here that were added last year)


Hopefully, UCF will be able to host ANOTHER Conf Championship Game (UCF hosted Conf Title Games in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2017 & 2018) to add to the bottom line as well (conf gets a cut of revenue from these games).

UCF's game day revenue is going up...up....UP!!

Well done UCF. Love that y’all are raising the bar for the American.

(06-14-2019 06:38 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  Your football team makes me so jealous. You are the pride of AAC, but may have your hands full with UC and Temple this year. We are coming on and I expect to challenge Memphis and Houston for the West this year again. We'll do our part on your behalf by knocking off Temple in Dallas.

AAC is basically up for grabs this year...as UCF has maybe more "unknowns" coming into this season like it had in 2016.

Road games will be a challenge whoever is QBing UCF...and will UCF's rebuilt DL be able to slow down the high power offenses in the AAC?

(06-15-2019 07:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 08:23 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 06:39 PM)Wooglin157 Wrote:  The most recent numbers I’ve seen reported is revenue between $3-$4m. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orlando...Type%3Damp

Is Bianchi inflating numbers or is he basing it off info he would have gathered by having better connections than we do? I don’t know. At the end of the day it seems like $3m in revenue is a safe bet, which given the fact season tickets will sell out means that’s likely a floor.

And the more important thing is that with an athletics department that has to operate on razor thin margins due to a small media deal and a sliver of the CFP revenue, that $3m is massive. And something where you can’t start giving up home games. Because buy games or a payout at the end of a 3 game 2-1 series will not add up for us. UCF has been down the buy game and 2-1 series road and I don’t think we can return. As recently as 2005, we ended up with 4 regular season home games due to that.

Agreed on the reason UCF cannot give up home games.

Bianchi is definitely inflating his numbers. It was LESS than eight months ago that Danny White said that some UCF games are APPROACHING $3 million.

2019 could be a slight increase compared to 2018. Black & Gold Cabana on the east side is growing larger by over 800 seats, but the total number of seats in the stadium will go down because they are removing a couple of rows at the top of the Cabana to add more concessions.

The Cabana season prices are also going up from $500 to $600 per seat. One or two other sections have moderate price increases, but most of the stadium prices are the same as last year.

Also, with all tickets sold at discount season ticket prices, you have a smaller number of tickets you can sell at higher single game rates (or dynamic pricing rates for premium games.

Slight increase?

Those 835 new Cabana Club seats are 3 times the cost of the old bleacher seats...plus all of those new 835 have access to alcohol and upgraded concessions too.

Also, those thousands of Cabana Seats all saw an increase from $85 per game to $100 per game this year too.

Plus, that doesn't take in account the new Lodge Table Seats in the NW Corner that easily sold out prior to being built this Spring (SW Corner Loge Table Seats shown here that were added last year)


Hopefully, UCF will be able to host ANOTHER Conf Championship Game (UCF hosted Conf Title Games in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2017 & 2018) to add to the bottom line as well (conf gets a cut of revenue from these games).

UCF's game day revenue is going up...up....UP!!

Those upper concourse pub table seats are awesome. I'm down low on the UCF side and love my seats but it's tempting to try and grab one of those pub tables up there for the vantage point and the breeze.

Danny White has done an amazing job at adding premium club/luxury seats and selling them.

(06-14-2019 12:46 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-14-2019 11:43 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Well done... any word on your expansion efforts. Havent heard anything recently but I thought your stadium was going to 50K or something like that.

I think the plan is to increase number the suites/club. Probably after that would be adding more regular seating. Around 45k is probably a good number to keep demand though.

Danny White says it’s inevitable if we continue to sell like this. 65k is the original design. He chooses his words carefully. He didn’t reveal expansion just comments on the original design specifications.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=w...3179955385
Stadium expansion
White expects the school to sell out season tickets for football this year with the department looking into a waiting list for tickets.

The average attendance for the eight home football games this past season was 44,019, according to the latest figures released by the NCAA with Spectrum Stadium well over 99% capacity. That includes a sellout when the Knights hosted Cincinnati on Nov. 17 and a near sell-out when the school hosted the American Athletic Conference Championship Game against Memphis on Dec. 1.

With attendance on the rise, White believes now is the time to to begin discussions about expanding the 45,000-seat stadium.
“It’s inevitable that we’re going to have to expand the stadium,” White said. “It’s built to be expanded and it was originally designed to go to 65,000. We’ll see what that looks like over the next couple of years as we continue to build our waiting list and communicate with our fans and see what they want.”

That could include adding a second level to the existing structure.

(06-15-2019 08:46 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-15-2019 07:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  2019 could be a slight increase compared to 2018. Black & Gold Cabana on the east side is growing larger by over 800 seats, but the total number of seats in the stadium will go down because they are removing a couple of rows at the top of the Cabana to add more concessions.

The Cabana season prices are also going up from $500 to $600 per seat. One or two other sections have moderate price increases, but most of the stadium prices are the same as last year.

Also, with all tickets sold at discount season ticket prices, you have a smaller number of tickets you can sell at higher single game rates (or dynamic pricing rates for premium games.

Slight increase?

Those 835 new Cabana Club seats are 3 times the cost of the old bleacher seats...plus all of those new 835 have access to alcohol and upgraded concessions too.

Also, those thousands of Cabana Seats all saw an increase from $85 per game to $100 per game this year too.

Plus, that doesn't take in account the new Lodge Table Seats in the NW Corner that easily sold out prior to being built this Spring (SW Corner Loge Table Seats shown here that were added last year)


Hopefully, UCF will be able to host ANOTHER Conf Championship Game (UCF hosted Conf Title Games in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2017 & 2018) to add to the bottom line as well (conf gets a cut of revenue from these games).

UCF's game day revenue is going up...up....UP!!

Those upper concourse pub table seats are awesome. I'm down low on the UCF side and love my seats but it's tempting to try and grab one of those pub tables up there for the vantage point and the breeze.

Danny White has done an amazing job at adding premium club/luxury seats and selling them.
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Yeah, I sat up there for the Spring Game and those 4 chairs (swivel) tables are SWEET with access to Tower Club.

The shade for that early afternoon game was nice plus the BREEZE you get being at the top (which would be only half way up some larger stadiums) so the views are pretty dang nice.

I think those tables will be like suites...always sold out as the NW Life already sold out before they were even built this summer.

(06-15-2019 07:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Slight increase?

Those 835 new Cabana Club seats are 3 times the cost of the old bleacher seats...plus all of those new 835 have access to alcohol and upgraded concessions too.

Also, those thousands of Cabana Seats all saw an increase from $85 per game to $100 per game this year too.

Plus, that doesn't take in account the new Lodge Table Seats in the NW Corner that easily sold out prior to being built this Spring (SW Corner Loge Table Seats shown here that were added last year)

Hopefully, UCF will be able to host ANOTHER Conf Championship Game (UCF hosted Conf Title Games in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2017 & 2018) to add to the bottom line as well (conf gets a cut of revenue from these games).

UCF's game day revenue is going up...up....UP!!

OK...use the phrase moderate increase if it makes you feel better. Fact is, there is not going to be a huge increase in per game revenue from last year to this year, unless there is another revenue generating idea that I am unaware of.

The extra loge seats on the north side of the tower generate an extra $18,857 per game.

The 846 seat increase in the B&G Cabana, and the price increase of all cabana seats increases the cabana ticket revenue by $88,529 per game.

But that does not all go to a net revenue increase because there are about 100 fewer seats in the stadium due to the conversion to chairback, plus the non club seats converted to club seats still sold for $250 - $300 for the season last year. So, the actual net increase in revenue for the cabana change is probably around $50K per game.

Season tickets in Section 233 went DOWN $21.

Season Tickets in section 209 & 211 went DOWN $100.

Season tickets in section 107 & 113 went up $50.

Season tickets in section 105 & 115 went up $30.

Keep in mind also that individual game tickets sold for more per game than season tickets. You know all the debates that have been had on the UCF Rivals site about Danny White's reluctance to lower individual game prices to sell more tickets.

While there are definite advantages to selling every seat as a season ticket, selling every seat at the discounted season ticket prices (except for the visitor section) means that some tickets that were sold last year as individual game tickets will generate less revenue this year being sold as a season ticket.

smh

(06-15-2019 08:46 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Those upper concourse pub table seats are awesome. I'm down low on the UCF side and love my seats but it's tempting to try and grab one of those pub tables up there for the vantage point and the breeze.

Danny White has done an amazing job at adding premium club/luxury seats and selling them.

Wish I could afford those loge seats...that table is really convenient and the shade/breeze must be nice!

Yes...DW is a genius in what he is doing to increase our revenue.