Tulsa has water?


I figured there might be the occasional small frog pond... surrounded by high grass and cow patties..



jk. Good Luck to everyone in the flood zone.

(06-04-2019 02:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Tulsa has water?


I figured there might be the occasional small frog pond... surrounded by high grass and cow patties..



jk. Good Luck to everyone in the flood zone.

We actually have a deepwater port. (No seriously).

To be clear - we do not have a "deep water port" in Tulsa. We have an inland port.

Generally a deep water port can handle a Panamax ship, so the port depth is > 30 feet (as deep as 60 for New Panamax). There are no Panamax ships in Tulsa. The Tulsa Port of Catoosa is serviced by the McClellan-Kerr navigation system on the Arkansas (and later Verdigris) River, and is supposed to have a depth of at least 9' for its length. It's authorized for 12' and is 12' in most areas, but Congress hasn't funded the dredging so it is not reliable 12' the entire way (each foot is ~200 tons per barge). For perspective, Tulsa's port does ~15% of the volume of the Port of Jacksonville (I believe Tulsa's port transfers more dry-bulk, but obviously Jacksonville wins for cars and containers).

But yes, Tulsa has lots of water We get ~ 10" less rain per year than Orlando, but we also have rivers and streams that bring in water from as far away as the Colorado continental divide. Lake Keystone, just north of Tulsa, holds back about 1/3rd the amount of water that is in Okeechobee. In fact, if you add up a few of the largest lakes within an hour of Tulsa --- there's way more water than in Okeechobee. There are at least five lakes that are larger than Orlando's Lake Apopka (which is about 1/6th the water volume of Okeechobee).

But... your perception isn't really that far off. I believe all the significant lakes in Oklahoma are man made.

Wait - did we really want to talk about rainfall and lakes? Stupid off season.

::insert "the more you know" meme here::

(06-12-2019 09:43 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  Wait - did we really want to talk about rainfall and lakes? Stupid off season.

::insert "the more you know" meme here::

If I didn't know better you actually get a little enjoyment from the topic.

Put me down in that category too.

One of my favorites is comparing rainfall depths during flood events. Pretty sure we've got the biggest one around. I almost have to laugh at the size of some peoples' floods. "Three inches?!? That's it?!?"

(06-12-2019 09:43 AM)JesseTU Wrote:  To be clear - we do not have a "deep water port" in Tulsa. We have an inland port.

Generally a deep water port can handle a Panamax ship, so the port depth is > 30 feet (as deep as 60 for New Panamax). There are no Panamax ships in Tulsa. The Tulsa Port of Catoosa is serviced by the McClellan-Kerr navigation system on the Arkansas (and later Verdigris) River, and is supposed to have a depth of at least 9' for its length. It's authorized for 12' and is 12' in most areas, but Congress hasn't funded the dredging so it is not reliable 12' the entire way (each foot is ~200 tons per barge). For perspective, Tulsa's port does ~15% of the volume of the Port of Jacksonville (I believe Tulsa's port transfers more dry-bulk, but obviously Jacksonville wins for cars and containers).

But yes, Tulsa has lots of water We get ~ 10" less rain per year than Orlando, but we also have rivers and streams that bring in water from as far away as the Colorado continental divide. Lake Keystone, just north of Tulsa, holds back about 1/3rd the amount of water that is in Okeechobee. In fact, if you add up a few of the largest lakes within an hour of Tulsa --- there's way more water than in Okeechobee. There are at least five lakes that are larger than Orlando's Lake Apopka (which is about 1/6th the water volume of Okeechobee).

But... your perception isn't really that far off. I believe all the significant lakes in Oklahoma are man made.

Wait - did we really want to talk about rainfall and lakes? Stupid off season.

::insert "the more you know" meme here::

Unless things have changed there is more than one port in the area. I used to do a lot of work at Port 33, east of Tulsa just off highway 33 (now 412), back 30-40 years ago.

Sorry. Stand corrected lol. Will have to improve my knowledge of seafaring.

Thanks to both Jesse and Nevada...I can confidently say we have ports.