(05-31-2019 08:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: I’m not going to stick up for the Lizards, but if you are implying FSU is running from competition, then that would be incorrect. FSU plays in many marquee OOC games including upcoming games vs BSU, UGA and ND. There could be many reasons for not playing a 1-1 against UCF, some might include small stadium, or trying to schedule a more attractive opponent or maybe the 2 athletic departments could not find open dates to play. FSU has played USF 4 times between 2009 and 2016, maybe the problem is more on UCFs end?
UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
(05-31-2019 08:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: I’m not going to stick up for the Lizards, but if you are implying FSU is running from competition, then that would be incorrect. FSU plays in many marquee OOC games including upcoming games vs BSU, UGA and ND. There could be many reasons for not playing a 1-1 against UCF, some might include small stadium, or trying to schedule a more attractive opponent or maybe the 2 athletic departments could not find open dates to play. FSU has played USF 4 times between 2009 and 2016, maybe the problem is more on UCFs end?
UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
Fine, make it happen. Just remember it does FSU no good to overschedule for the sake of not being skeeered. FSU’s path to the playoffs is just as clear with a 1 and done SunBelt team as it would be a 1-1 with UCF. If you don’t understand this, then I can’t explain it any better. If you want to talk to a Gator fan why they need 7-8 home games a year and won’t play UCF there is an SEC board for that. FSU has never dodged competition and while UCF is now an attractive opponent, 3-4 years from now UCF could revert back to 0-12 (not likely) or a ho-hum 7-8 win team. This would not earn FSU any cool points playing a game like this. Unfortunately it all boils down to money. The FSU athletic department already made a few bone headed scheduling moves like the BSU series 1 in Jacksonville, 1 in Boise. If only the then AD Randy Spetman could have taken a time machine 8 years into the future and see how good UCF is now instead of a firmly established non-BCS/G5 power Boise State.
(05-31-2019 08:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: I’m not going to stick up for the Lizards, but if you are implying FSU is running from competition, then that would be incorrect. FSU plays in many marquee OOC games including upcoming games vs BSU, UGA and ND. There could be many reasons for not playing a 1-1 against UCF, some might include small stadium, or trying to schedule a more attractive opponent or maybe the 2 athletic departments could not find open dates to play. FSU has played USF 4 times between 2009 and 2016, maybe the problem is more on UCFs end?
UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
Fine, make it happen. Just remember it does FSU no good to overschedule for the sake of not being skeeered. FSU’s path to the playoffs is just as clear with a 1 and done SunBelt team as it would be a 1-1 with UCF. If you don’t understand this, then I can’t explain it any better. If you want to talk to a Gator fan why they need 7-8 home games a year and won’t play UCF there is an SEC board for that. FSU has never dodged competition and while UCF is now an attractive opponent, 3-4 years from now UCF could revert back to 0-12 (not likely) or a ho-hum 7-8 win team. This would not earn FSU any cool points playing a game like this. Unfortunately it all boils down to money. The FSU athletic department already made a few bone headed scheduling moves like the BSU series 1 in Jacksonville, 1 in Boise. If only the then AD Randy Spetman could have taken a time machine 8 years into the future and see how good UCF is now instead of a firmly established non-BCS/G5 power Boise State.
You're right. Unfortunately UF and FSU don't need UCF and USF. It's not fair but what in life is fair? We don't have the history that the big 3 have. We can be a juggernaut of a team, trash, or somewhere in between. Nobody knows how we will be in 8 years. Win lose or draw, I just want to play damn good teams and our AD is setting that up for us. Nobody gives a **** if you beat Illinois or Pitt. Beat the teams that will most likely be a top team.
(06-01-2019 04:35 PM)Ocalabull Wrote: You're right. Unfortunately UF and FSU don't need UCF and USF. It's not fair but what in life is fair? We don't have the history that the big 3 have. We can be a juggernaut of a team, trash, or somewhere in between. Nobody knows how we will be in 8 years. Win lose or draw, I just want to play damn good teams and our AD is setting that up for us. Nobody gives a **** if you beat Illinois or Pitt. Beat the teams that will most likely be a top team.
Since 2004:
Miami: Zero Conf titles...1 Divisional Title
Pitt: 2 Conf titles....1 Divisional Title
All anyone needs to know is that Miami recently had/signed home-home deals with:
Appalachian St
Arkansas State
Toledo
Temple
Cincinnati
(06-01-2019 04:35 PM)Ocalabull Wrote: You're right. Unfortunately UF and FSU don't need UCF and USF. It's not fair but what in life is fair? We don't have the history that the big 3 have. We can be a juggernaut of a team, trash, or somewhere in between. Nobody knows how we will be in 8 years. Win lose or draw, I just want to play damn good teams and our AD is setting that up for us. Nobody gives a **** if you beat Illinois or Pitt. Beat the teams that will most likely be a top team.
Since 2004:
Miami: Zero Conf titles...1 Divisional Title
Pitt: 2 Conf titles....1 Divisional Title
All anyone needs to know is that Miami recently had/signed home-home deals with:
Appalachian St
Arkansas State
Toledo
Temple
Cincinnati
Yet usf signed a 2-for-1 deal with Miami.
Case closed for Miami and Louisville deserving a 2-1.
Tha Alabama game is a good series from pretty much every angle.
USF has one away game left to try and sign a home and home series between 2023-2028. Hopefully they can get a low p5 team to sign a series with them since they can't do another 2-1. They do have Boise St and BYU as home games in those years to help.the schedule.
(06-01-2019 04:35 PM)Ocalabull Wrote: You're right. Unfortunately UF and FSU don't need UCF and USF. It's not fair but what in life is fair? We don't have the history that the big 3 have. We can be a juggernaut of a team, trash, or somewhere in between. Nobody knows how we will be in 8 years. Win lose or draw, I just want to play damn good teams and our AD is setting that up for us. Nobody gives a **** if you beat Illinois or Pitt. Beat the teams that will most likely be a top team.
Since 2004:
Miami: Zero Conf titles...1 Divisional Title
Pitt: 2 Conf titles....1 Divisional Title
All anyone needs to know is that Miami recently had/signed home-home deals with:
Appalachian St
Arkansas State
Toledo
Temple
Cincinnati
Yet usf signed a 2-for-1 deal with Miami.
Standard UCF response. Limit down the history to fit agenda, then make a false claim. Miamis history doesnt need to be debated. They are a power school with multiple National Championships, division championships and is a member of a power 5 conference.
We will have played them 8 times by the time its all over with because were willing to see how the power structure is and work within it. UCF will not have a game against them or many of the P5 schools because they rather stomp their foot and complain how it isnt fair....and we had space in our schedule, so why not get a $1 million paycheck. Only UCF fans complain about getting paid.
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2019 09:50 AM by mtmedlin.)
(06-01-2019 04:35 PM)Ocalabull Wrote: You're right. Unfortunately UF and FSU don't need UCF and USF. It's not fair but what in life is fair? We don't have the history that the big 3 have. We can be a juggernaut of a team, trash, or somewhere in between. Nobody knows how we will be in 8 years. Win lose or draw, I just want to play damn good teams and our AD is setting that up for us. Nobody gives a **** if you beat Illinois or Pitt. Beat the teams that will most likely be a top team.
Since 2004:
Miami: Zero Conf titles...1 Divisional Title
Pitt: 2 Conf titles....1 Divisional Title
All anyone needs to know is that Miami recently had/signed home-home deals with:
Appalachian St
Arkansas State
Toledo
Temple
Cincinnati
Yet usf signed a 2-for-1 deal with Miami.
Case closed for Miami and Louisville deserving a 2-1.
Tha Alabama game is a good series from pretty much every angle.
USF has one away game left to try and sign a home and home series between 2023-2028. Hopefully they can get a low p5 team to sign a series with them since they can't do another 2-1. They do have Boise St and BYU as home games in those years to help.the schedule.
Our AD already has something cooking and from what we are hearing its gonna be a nice addition. btw... our last TWO series with FSU have been Home and Home, same with Wisconsin, Gtech, NC State. It doesnt have to be a low level P5 team. Some are willing to negotiate with us differently. We sign what we can, but from what were hearing the next one will be a 1-1.
(05-31-2019 08:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: I’m not going to stick up for the Lizards, but if you are implying FSU is running from competition, then that would be incorrect. FSU plays in many marquee OOC games including upcoming games vs BSU, UGA and ND. There could be many reasons for not playing a 1-1 against UCF, some might include small stadium, or trying to schedule a more attractive opponent or maybe the 2 athletic departments could not find open dates to play. FSU has played USF 4 times between 2009 and 2016, maybe the problem is more on UCFs end?
UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
Fine, make it happen. Just remember it does FSU no good to overschedule for the sake of not being skeeered. FSU’s path to the playoffs is just as clear with a 1 and done SunBelt team as it would be a 1-1 with UCF. If you don’t understand this, then I can’t explain it any better. If you want to talk to a Gator fan why they need 7-8 home games a year and won’t play UCF there is an SEC board for that. FSU has never dodged competition and while UCF is now an attractive opponent, 3-4 years from now UCF could revert back to 0-12 (not likely) or a ho-hum 7-8 win team. This would not earn FSU any cool points playing a game like this. Unfortunately it all boils down to money. The FSU athletic department already made a few bone headed scheduling moves like the BSU series 1 in Jacksonville, 1 in Boise. If only the then AD Randy Spetman could have taken a time machine 8 years into the future and see how good UCF is now instead of a firmly established non-BCS/G5 power Boise State.
Just read that FSU is having trouble selling season tickets. About 24,000 for the upcoming season...less than UCF. Perhaps scheduling a home and home with that "loudmouth" school in Orlando would generate some interest?
BTW...I am not putting FSU down. FSU is nowhere near the arrogance of Florida and Miami. In fact, I cannot really think of anything arrogant about FSU compared to the other two.
Just frustrating that we cannot get FSU to play a game at UCF.
(05-31-2019 08:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: I’m not going to stick up for the Lizards, but if you are implying FSU is running from competition, then that would be incorrect. FSU plays in many marquee OOC games including upcoming games vs BSU, UGA and ND. There could be many reasons for not playing a 1-1 against UCF, some might include small stadium, or trying to schedule a more attractive opponent or maybe the 2 athletic departments could not find open dates to play. FSU has played USF 4 times between 2009 and 2016, maybe the problem is more on UCFs end?
UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
Fine, make it happen. Just remember it does FSU no good to overschedule for the sake of not being skeeered. FSU’s path to the playoffs is just as clear with a 1 and done SunBelt team as it would be a 1-1 with UCF. If you don’t understand this, then I can’t explain it any better. If you want to talk to a Gator fan why they need 7-8 home games a year and won’t play UCF there is an SEC board for that. FSU has never dodged competition and while UCF is now an attractive opponent, 3-4 years from now UCF could revert back to 0-12 (not likely) or a ho-hum 7-8 win team. This would not earn FSU any cool points playing a game like this. Unfortunately it all boils down to money. The FSU athletic department already made a few bone headed scheduling moves like the BSU series 1 in Jacksonville, 1 in Boise. If only the then AD Randy Spetman could have taken a time machine 8 years into the future and see how good UCF is now instead of a firmly established non-BCS/G5 power Boise State.
Just read that FSU is having trouble selling season tickets. About 24,000 for the upcoming season...less than UCF. Perhaps scheduling a home and home with that "loudmouth" school in Orlando would generate some interest?
BTW...I am not putting FSU down. FSU is nowhere near the arrogance of Florida and Miami. In fact, I cannot really think of anything arrogant about FSU compared to the other two.
Just frustrating that we cannot get FSU to play a game at UCF.
Weve had 4 games with them. This is what I am talking about.... and please take this as genuine. UCF would be much better received by all if the way yall acted wasnt so "in your face".
When we were both going for the Big East, USF was quiet, prepared, worked the alliances and got in. UCF was loud. Publicly claimed they "deserved it" (and lets admit, neither of us deserved it... neither had done crap up to that point) and was left out.
When the Big 12 came calling, USF again was silent, prepared and worked our alliances. UCF was again loud and demanding. Neither of us prevailed, but UCF kinda looked childish throughout.
UCF is getting a really bad rep for the way they run to the press. You want to be seen as champions but act like the kid with a chip on his shoulder. Theres an old saying "Act like you've been there". If you got the rings, then let them do the talking.
UCF could be seen as a G5 hero but the way that the press has been handled, you came off more like a petulant child. In all sincerity, I hope that changes under the new leadership.
(05-31-2019 08:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: I’m not going to stick up for the Lizards, but if you are implying FSU is running from competition, then that would be incorrect. FSU plays in many marquee OOC games including upcoming games vs BSU, UGA and ND. There could be many reasons for not playing a 1-1 against UCF, some might include small stadium, or trying to schedule a more attractive opponent or maybe the 2 athletic departments could not find open dates to play. FSU has played USF 4 times between 2009 and 2016, maybe the problem is more on UCFs end?
UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
Fine, make it happen. Just remember it does FSU no good to overschedule for the sake of not being skeeered. FSU’s path to the playoffs is just as clear with a 1 and done SunBelt team as it would be a 1-1 with UCF. If you don’t understand this, then I can’t explain it any better. If you want to talk to a Gator fan why they need 7-8 home games a year and won’t play UCF there is an SEC board for that. FSU has never dodged competition and while UCF is now an attractive opponent, 3-4 years from now UCF could revert back to 0-12 (not likely) or a ho-hum 7-8 win team. This would not earn FSU any cool points playing a game like this. Unfortunately it all boils down to money. The FSU athletic department already made a few bone headed scheduling moves like the BSU series 1 in Jacksonville, 1 in Boise. If only the then AD Randy Spetman could have taken a time machine 8 years into the future and see how good UCF is now instead of a firmly established non-BCS/G5 power Boise State.
Just read that FSU is having trouble selling season tickets. About 24,000 for the upcoming season...less than UCF. Perhaps scheduling a home and home with that "loudmouth" school in Orlando would generate some interest?
BTW...I am not putting FSU down. FSU is nowhere near the arrogance of Florida and Miami. In fact, I cannot really think of anything arrogant about FSU compared to the other two.
Just frustrating that we cannot get FSU to play a game at UCF.
Weve had 4 games with them. This is what I am talking about.... and please take this as genuine. UCF would be much better received by all if the way yall acted wasnt so "in your face".
When we were both going for the Big East, USF was quiet, prepared, worked the alliances and got in. UCF was loud. Publicly claimed they "deserved it" (and lets admit, neither of us deserved it... neither had done crap up to that point) and was left out.
When the Big 12 came calling, USF again was silent, prepared and worked our alliances. UCF was again loud and demanding. Neither of us prevailed, but UCF kinda looked childish throughout.
UCF is getting a really bad rep for the way they run to the press. You want to be seen as champions but act like the kid with a chip on his shoulder. Theres an old saying "Act like you've been there". If you got the rings, then let them do the talking.
UCF could be seen as a G5 hero but the way that the press has been handled, you came off more like a petulant child. In all sincerity, I hope that changes under the new leadership.
If you have any evidence that UCF was "loud and demanding" during the early 2000s application to the Big east or the recent applications to the B12, I would like to see it.
Since it is so recent, I KNOW UCF was quiet and respectful during that process. UCF didn't even release it's B12 presentation to the press the way USF did.
(05-31-2019 08:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: I’m not going to stick up for the Lizards, but if you are implying FSU is running from competition, then that would be incorrect. FSU plays in many marquee OOC games including upcoming games vs BSU, UGA and ND. There could be many reasons for not playing a 1-1 against UCF, some might include small stadium, or trying to schedule a more attractive opponent or maybe the 2 athletic departments could not find open dates to play. FSU has played USF 4 times between 2009 and 2016, maybe the problem is more on UCFs end?
UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
Fine, make it happen. Just remember it does FSU no good to overschedule for the sake of not being skeeered. FSU’s path to the playoffs is just as clear with a 1 and done SunBelt team as it would be a 1-1 with UCF. If you don’t understand this, then I can’t explain it any better. If you want to talk to a Gator fan why they need 7-8 home games a year and won’t play UCF there is an SEC board for that. FSU has never dodged competition and while UCF is now an attractive opponent, 3-4 years from now UCF could revert back to 0-12 (not likely) or a ho-hum 7-8 win team. This would not earn FSU any cool points playing a game like this. Unfortunately it all boils down to money. The FSU athletic department already made a few bone headed scheduling moves like the BSU series 1 in Jacksonville, 1 in Boise. If only the then AD Randy Spetman could have taken a time machine 8 years into the future and see how good UCF is now instead of a firmly established non-BCS/G5 power Boise State.
Just read that FSU is having trouble selling season tickets. About 24,000 for the upcoming season...less than UCF. Perhaps scheduling a home and home with that "loudmouth" school in Orlando would generate some interest?
BTW...I am not putting FSU down. FSU is nowhere near the arrogance of Florida and Miami. In fact, I cannot really think of anything arrogant about FSU compared to the other two.
Just frustrating that we cannot get FSU to play a game at UCF.
Weve had 4 games with them. This is what I am talking about.... and please take this as genuine. UCF would be much better received by all if the way yall acted wasnt so "in your face".
When we were both going for the Big East, USF was quiet, prepared, worked the alliances and got in. UCF was loud. Publicly claimed they "deserved it" (and lets admit, neither of us deserved it... neither had done crap up to that point) and was left out.
When the Big 12 came calling, USF again was silent, prepared and worked our alliances. UCF was again loud and demanding. Neither of us prevailed, but UCF kinda looked childish throughout.
UCF is getting a really bad rep for the way they run to the press. You want to be seen as champions but act like the kid with a chip on his shoulder. Theres an old saying "Act like you've been there". If you got the rings, then let them do the talking.
UCF could be seen as a G5 hero but the way that the press has been handled, you came off more like a petulant child. In all sincerity, I hope that changes under the new leadership.
I bet you do. It's really nice of you to be so concerned about UCF. But in all sincerity I think you should be more concerned with USF winning something like a conference championship rather than what UCF is doing.
(06-01-2019 04:35 PM)Ocalabull Wrote: You're right. Unfortunately UF and FSU don't need UCF and USF. It's not fair but what in life is fair? We don't have the history that the big 3 have. We can be a juggernaut of a team, trash, or somewhere in between. Nobody knows how we will be in 8 years. Win lose or draw, I just want to play damn good teams and our AD is setting that up for us. Nobody gives a **** if you beat Illinois or Pitt. Beat the teams that will most likely be a top team.
Since 2004:
Miami: Zero Conf titles...1 Divisional Title
Pitt: 2 Conf titles....1 Divisional Title
All anyone needs to know is that Miami recently had/signed home-home deals with:
Appalachian St
Arkansas State
Toledo
Temple
Cincinnati
Yet usf signed a 2-for-1 deal with Miami.
Case closed for Miami and Louisville deserving a 2-1.
Tha Alabama game is a good series from pretty much every angle.
USF has one away game left to try and sign a home and home series between 2023-2028. Hopefully they can get a low p5 team to sign a series with them since they can't do another 2-1. They do have Boise St and BYU as home games in those years to help.the schedule.
Our AD already has something cooking and from what we are hearing its gonna be a nice addition. btw... our last TWO series with FSU have been Home and Home, same with Wisconsin, Gtech, NC State. It doesnt have to be a low level P5 team. Some are willing to negotiate with us differently. We sign what we can, but from what were hearing the next one will be a 1-1.
It has to be a 1-1 because that is all you have in away games.
With three p5 games at home one year and NC State having flexibility a move by them to an off year and perhaps pushing around a San Jose St home game (their schedule is wide open) you can probably free up another away game and home slot to get a second series with a p5.
USF is on a kick with getting what it considers blue bloods at home. My comment was simply meant to be you wouldn't be looking for a ND, Michigan, USC, Ohio St type game. More a Pitt, Northwestern, Missouri, Kentucky type of game seemed likely. Perhaps two of them with some juggling. Combining that with a Boise or BYU game and attractive conference schedule should at least make a decent home year.
(06-01-2019 09:54 AM)Square Knight Wrote: UCF is looking for a P5 home game in 2023. FSU has two OOC games scheduled so far. Common open date is 9/25.
UCF is looking for both home and away P5 opponents for 2023. FSU only has the November Florida game scheduled. Common open dates...the entire month of September.
In 2024 UCF is looking for a P5 home game. FSU still has two openings. Common open dates are three weeks in September...the date of FSU vs Notre Dame has not been determined yet.
In 2025 UCF is looking for a P5 away game. FSU has three openings. Common open date are the entire month of September.
Fine, make it happen. Just remember it does FSU no good to overschedule for the sake of not being skeeered. FSU’s path to the playoffs is just as clear with a 1 and done SunBelt team as it would be a 1-1 with UCF. If you don’t understand this, then I can’t explain it any better. If you want to talk to a Gator fan why they need 7-8 home games a year and won’t play UCF there is an SEC board for that. FSU has never dodged competition and while UCF is now an attractive opponent, 3-4 years from now UCF could revert back to 0-12 (not likely) or a ho-hum 7-8 win team. This would not earn FSU any cool points playing a game like this. Unfortunately it all boils down to money. The FSU athletic department already made a few bone headed scheduling moves like the BSU series 1 in Jacksonville, 1 in Boise. If only the then AD Randy Spetman could have taken a time machine 8 years into the future and see how good UCF is now instead of a firmly established non-BCS/G5 power Boise State.
Just read that FSU is having trouble selling season tickets. About 24,000 for the upcoming season...less than UCF. Perhaps scheduling a home and home with that "loudmouth" school in Orlando would generate some interest?
BTW...I am not putting FSU down. FSU is nowhere near the arrogance of Florida and Miami. In fact, I cannot really think of anything arrogant about FSU compared to the other two.
Just frustrating that we cannot get FSU to play a game at UCF.
Weve had 4 games with them. This is what I am talking about.... and please take this as genuine. UCF would be much better received by all if the way yall acted wasnt so "in your face".
When we were both going for the Big East, USF was quiet, prepared, worked the alliances and got in. UCF was loud. Publicly claimed they "deserved it" (and lets admit, neither of us deserved it... neither had done crap up to that point) and was left out.
When the Big 12 came calling, USF again was silent, prepared and worked our alliances. UCF was again loud and demanding. Neither of us prevailed, but UCF kinda looked childish throughout.
UCF is getting a really bad rep for the way they run to the press. You want to be seen as champions but act like the kid with a chip on his shoulder. Theres an old saying "Act like you've been there". If you got the rings, then let them do the talking.
UCF could be seen as a G5 hero but the way that the press has been handled, you came off more like a petulant child. In all sincerity, I hope that changes under the new leadership.
I bet you do. It's really nice of you to be so concerned about UCF. But in all sincerity I think you should be more concerned with USF winning something like a conference championship rather than what UCF is doing.
Super funny to read this line in a thread entitled "USF schedules 2 for 1 with Alabama." The thing is, if USF farts, 5 UCF fans will be on here to talk about how foul it smells and why UCF would do it better.
(06-04-2019 04:15 PM)usffan Wrote: Super funny to read this line in a thread entitled "USF schedules 2 for 1 with Alabama." The thing is, if USF farts, 5 UCF fans will be on here to talk about how foul it smells and why UCF would do it better.
USFFan
Hilariously inaccurate take, considering...
1. It was a UCF fan who started the thread congratulating USF on a great get.
2. Numerous other UCF fans also said it was a great series.
3. It wasn't even a UCF fan who first mentioned USF's 2-for-1 scheduling frenzy (it was a Houston fan and a Tulsa fan...I believe around page 2)
4. And of course there is mtmedlin chiming in early (again around page 2) with his false claims comparing how Boise St scheduled so much harder than UCF...and his false claim that EVERY one of USF's 2-for-1 series had a final away game that paid $1 million or more.
(06-04-2019 04:15 PM)usffan Wrote: Super funny to read this line in a thread entitled "USF schedules 2 for 1 with Alabama." The thing is, if USF farts, 5 UCF fans will be on here to talk about how foul it smells and why UCF would do it better.
USFFan
Hilariously inaccurate take, considering...
1. It was a UCF fan who started the thread congratulating USF on a great get.
2. Numerous other UCF fans also said it was a great series.
3. It wasn't even a UCF fan who first mentioned USF's 2-for-1 scheduling frenzy (it was a Houston fan and a Tulsa fan...I believe around page 2)
4. And of course there is mtmedlin chiming in early (again around page 2) with his false claims comparing how Boise St scheduled so much harder than UCF...and his false claim that EVERY one of USF's 2-for-1 series had a final away game that paid $1 million or more.
So hilariously inaccurate that you can't refute what I did, which was point out the hypocrisy of a UCF fan telling a USF fan to effectively stop commenting on what UCF is doing in a thread created about USF football and not about UCF.
It's fine for you to allow some discussion of USF to exist that doesn't include UCF in it. No really, it is.
Hilariously bad podcast. These guys are so painful to listen to. They go through all of Navy's games but at the 42:02 mark....they stray into their take on USF scheduling a 2 for 1 with Alabama. They do schedule talk till about 52:40.
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USF schedules 2 for 1 with Alabama
