The unofficial online home for fans of the Western Michigan University Broncos. Part of Collegiate Sports Nation (CSN).

Amazing 49 years since lower rate.

I remember my WMU prof telling us 3% of the population was unemployable.

Dear okgc,
He was correct. Although the figure is closer to 4%, hence 3.6% These percentages are made-up of mentally challenged, physically challenged, illiterates, and a few other categories. We, as a nation will never have full employment.

(05-03-2019 01:03 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear okgc,
He was correct. Although the figure is closer to 4%, hence 3.6% These percentages are made-up of mentally challenged, physically challenged, illiterates, and a few other categories. We, as a nation will never have full employment.

Oh. And I thought that percentage was just CMU grads...same difference, I guess.

Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

(05-03-2019 02:44 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

Keep up the good work there buddy while the achievers pass you by. Who gives a damn about the rate of inflation as it relates to your pay. You don’t like your circumstances, quit and find another job. Pay and increases are/should be based on your worth not the rate of inflation or because you do your job. Whiners will always find a way to deflect blame as to their situation in life. If you don’t believe you are properly compensated then find employment elsewhere but you won’t because you are not confident enough in your ability.
If you’re wondering, yes I own a business. I employ union and non union labor. Some of my union people are paid over the union scale because I want to retain them and reward them. With respect to my non union office employees I prefer bonuses over pay raises for what should be obvious reasons.

Oh I’m sure you believe business owners are just greed filled slave drivers. They are not buy and large.

(05-05-2019 09:15 PM)WMUslappy1 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 02:44 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

Keep up the good work there buddy while the achievers pass you by. Who gives a damn about the rate of inflation as it relates to your pay. You don’t like your circumstances, quit and find another job. Pay and increases are/should be based on your worth not the rate of inflation or because you do your job. Whiners will always find a way to deflect blame as to their situation in life. If you don’t believe you are properly compensated then find employment elsewhere but you won’t because you are not confident enough in your ability.
If you’re wondering, yes I own a business. I employ union and non union labor. Some of my union people are paid over the union scale because I want to retain them and reward them. With respect to my non union office employees I prefer bonuses over pay raises for what should be obvious reasons.

Oh I’m sure you believe business owners are just greed filled slave drivers. They are not buy and large.

I just can't with this. This isn't about one person being unhappy with their pay. Wage stagnation across the US is a MAJOR thing. The cost of living has gone up exponentially compared to average pay. Just look at the costs associated with renting a place to live, the costs of school, etc compared to 30 years ago then compare that difference with the average change in wage.

You can't just always quit and go find a better paying job.

(05-05-2019 09:15 PM)WMUslappy1 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 02:44 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

Keep up the good work there buddy while the achievers pass you by. Who gives a damn about the rate of inflation as it relates to your pay. You don’t like your circumstances, quit and find another job. Pay and increases are/should be based on your worth not the rate of inflation or because you do your job. Whiners will always find a way to deflect blame as to their situation in life. If you don’t believe you are properly compensated then find employment elsewhere but you won’t because you are not confident enough in your ability.
If you’re wondering, yes I own a business. I employ union and non union labor. Some of my union people are paid over the union scale because I want to retain them and reward them. With respect to my non union office employees I prefer bonuses over pay raises for what should be obvious reasons.

Oh I’m sure you believe business owners are just greed filled slave drivers. They are not buy and large.

Nobody is passing me by stooge. You REALLY don't have a clue.

It's a fact that wages have been flat for the last 40 years. So Trump spiking the football about one factor of the economy rings hollow when we have people working two plus jobs to make a living. Only his mouth breathing, bad breathed and mannered sychopants buy his lies and bs these days. I think I have a winner here!

And the last time I checked, bonuses are part of the compensation package. I guess that nuance is too hard for such a "successful business owner" like your self.

Wages rose 2.9 percent from September 2017 to September 2018, the largest increase in over a decade. Vote Trump 2020 if you want that trend to continue, If not, well that's your choice.

(05-05-2019 09:55 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(05-05-2019 09:15 PM)WMUslappy1 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 02:44 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

Keep up the good work there buddy while the achievers pass you by. Who gives a damn about the rate of inflation as it relates to your pay. You don’t like your circumstances, quit and find another job. Pay and increases are/should be based on your worth not the rate of inflation or because you do your job. Whiners will always find a way to deflect blame as to their situation in life. If you don’t believe you are properly compensated then find employment elsewhere but you won’t because you are not confident enough in your ability.
If you’re wondering, yes I own a business. I employ union and non union labor. Some of my union people are paid over the union scale because I want to retain them and reward them. With respect to my non union office employees I prefer bonuses over pay raises for what should be obvious reasons.

Oh I’m sure you believe business owners are just greed filled slave drivers. They are not buy and large.

Nobody is passing me by stooge. You REALLY don't have a clue.

It's a fact that wages have been flat for the last 40 years. So Trump spiking the football about one factor of the economy rings hollow when we have people working two plus jobs to make a living. Only his mouth breathing, bad breathed and mannered sychopants buy his lies and bs these days. I think I have a winner here!

And the last time I checked, bonuses are part of the compensation package. I guess that nuance is too hard for such a "successful business owner" like your self.

Thing is there are extra jobs to be able to work. My company lost a number of employees because they
weren't treated very well. With low unemployment the money is getting better and they're looking to create a better work experience. Our minority hirings
are up at all levels and we have a new female CEO.
Exciting stuff!

(05-06-2019 10:25 AM)Rasser Wrote:  [quote='GRBRONCO' pid='16083050' dateline='1557153762']
Wages rose 2.9 percent from September 2017 to September 2018, the largest increase in over a decade. Vote Trump 2020 if you want that trend to continue, If not, well that's your choice.

That doesn’t even keep up with inflation and you’re citing that time period as if it’s some monumental deal!

Now the orange idiot is pressuring the Fed for low rates while at the same time trying to tell his mouth breathing base that the economy is going great! That doesn’t reconcile one bit. More talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Obama handed him a repaired, upward trending economy which we haven't seen since the Clinton years.

HOWEVER, our deficit has never been worse, but the GOP and Trumpkins are moot about this, why?

Used to HOWL LIKE HYENAs when Obama was in office about the very same thing. That and Obama wasn't a common criminal who has people going to jail from his immediate circle, wasn't an unindicted co-conspirator in crimes, brags about himself, tweets like a teenager and lies on a more than daily basis.

(05-06-2019 10:16 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-05-2019 09:55 PM)Rasser Wrote:  

(05-05-2019 09:15 PM)WMUslappy1 Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 02:44 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

Keep up the good work there buddy while the achievers pass you by. Who gives a damn about the rate of inflation as it relates to your pay. You don’t like your circumstances, quit and find another job. Pay and increases are/should be based on your worth not the rate of inflation or because you do your job. Whiners will always find a way to deflect blame as to their situation in life. If you don’t believe you are properly compensated then find employment elsewhere but you won’t because you are not confident enough in your ability.
If you’re wondering, yes I own a business. I employ union and non union labor. Some of my union people are paid over the union scale because I want to retain them and reward them. With respect to my non union office employees I prefer bonuses over pay raises for what should be obvious reasons.

Oh I’m sure you believe business owners are just greed filled slave drivers. They are not buy and large.

Nobody is passing me by stooge. You REALLY don't have a clue.

It's a fact that wages have been flat for the last 40 years. So Trump spiking the football about one factor of the economy rings hollow when we have people working two plus jobs to make a living. Only his mouth breathing, bad breathed and mannered sychopants buy his lies and bs these days. I think I have a winner here!

And the last time I checked, bonuses are part of the compensation package. I guess that nuance is too hard for such a "successful business owner" like your self.

Thing is there are extra jobs to be able to work. My company lost a number of employees because they
weren't treated very well. With low unemployment the money is getting better and they're looking to create a better work experience. Our minority hirings
are up at all levels and we have a new female CEO.
Exciting stuff!

Gosh Wally, my multi national conglomerate is hiring like crazy too. Only people from India and AIPAC. Exciting for them I know.

Thought we were putting “America First”?!

(05-06-2019 12:26 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Obama handed him a repaired, upward trending economy which we haven't seen since the Clinton years.

IMHO

Ben's helicopter did that.

Quote:HOWEVER, our deficit has never been worse, but the GOP and Trumpkins are moot about this, why?

Good question

(05-03-2019 02:44 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

The Federal Reserve's inflation target is 2% per year.

That adds up over 40 (or more) years.

And we wonder why and how things like this happen.

What's the definition of insanity?

(05-06-2019 06:41 PM)ess Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 02:44 PM)Rasser Wrote:  Yet pay remains stagnant adjusted for inflation for the last 40 years, not keeping up with the cost of living.

The Federal Reserve's inflation target is 2% per year.

That adds up over 40 (or more) years.

And we wonder why and how things like this happen.

What's the definition of insanity?

Not by accident. I just tire of the "unemployment talk" being attributed to the orange idiot, just like low gas prices that were attributed to Obama when neither had bugger all to do with the rosy reports, IMO.

Ben had to do something with that QE, but that money didn't make it to America, it made it to the people that got us in the mess and that we bailed out. Good work if you can get it.