(04-29-2019 09:41 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:54 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:28 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:13 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  Kick out Temple, UCONN and Navy.

Bring in S. Miss., UAB, and UTEP.

No, being totally honest? UConn should be in the ACC and Louisville should be with us. Temple doesn't have the history with the other schools but fits nicely with the former MVC core, a city University with history trying to compete at the top level. Keep Navy and that footprint and history is pretty good. Well as much history as FBS UCF and USF can have at least lol.

UCONN and Temple in the ACC makes perfect sense. UL in CUSA also makes perfect sense.

I think Louisville’s earned (thru cheating or not) a spot in the ACC with their unrelenting dedication to their athletic programs monetarily and success wise. To suggest Louisville is a CUSA at this point is just false.

It would be better if the ACC never expanded past 12 and the Big East still existed however imo.

Hookers and blow gets you ahead and you are cool with that, ok.

Oh give it a rest. You think North Carolina? Duke? Auburn? Do it by the book?

Show me a top school who says they don’t cheat, I’ll show you a liar.

No one said that’s ok, it’s not, but it’s reality, and forever will be.

(04-29-2019 10:22 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 09:41 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:54 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:28 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  


No, being totally honest? UConn should be in the ACC and Louisville should be with us. Temple doesn't have the history with the other schools but fits nicely with the former MVC core, a city University with history trying to compete at the top level. Keep Navy and that footprint and history is pretty good. Well as much history as FBS UCF and USF can have at least lol.

UCONN and Temple in the ACC makes perfect sense. UL in CUSA also makes perfect sense.

I think Louisville’s earned (thru cheating or not) a spot in the ACC with their unrelenting dedication to their athletic programs monetarily and success wise. To suggest Louisville is a CUSA at this point is just false.

It would be better if the ACC never expanded past 12 and the Big East still existed however imo.

Hookers and blow gets you ahead and you are cool with that, ok.

Oh give it a rest. You think North Carolina? Duke? Auburn? Do it by the book?

Show me a top school who says they don’t cheat, I’ll show you a liar.

No one said that’s ok, it’s not, but it’s reality, and forever will be.

There's academic shenanigans that I'm sure most do and then there's buying hookers and cocaine for players and prospects, plus side deals for payments from shoe companies to players families, that only an elite few do. University 6 falls squarely in the latter. But the ACC sold its soul when they brought in "The U" so I'm not shocked that the conference's moral stance has devolved to acceptance of cocaine and hookers for teenagers.

(04-29-2019 08:54 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:28 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:13 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 03:09 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Temple and UConn are the only schools with out connections. The rest have been playing each other for a couple decades or longer. SMU and Tulsa shared the WAC and played a great deal before that, Houston and SMU were in the SWC, Houston and Tulsa is the oldest rivalry in the AAC for football. Cincy, Memphis, Wichita, Tulsa, and Houston were all in the MVC at overlapping times. Nine of the schools were members of CUSA excluding Navy and the aforementioned Temple, UConn combo.

Several schools have relationships that date back till at least the 1950s. Including the core playing in CUSA most schools are working on 30 years of continual competition, the vast majority of it in the same conference.

Kick out Temple, UCONN and Navy.

Bring in S. Miss., UAB, and UTEP.

No, being totally honest? UConn should be in the ACC and Louisville should be with us. Temple doesn't have the history with the other schools but fits nicely with the former MVC core, a city University with history trying to compete at the top level. Keep Navy and that footprint and history is pretty good. Well as much history as FBS UCF and USF can have at least lol.

UCONN and Temple in the ACC makes perfect sense. UL in CUSA also makes perfect sense.

I think Louisville’s earned (thru cheating or not) a spot in the ACC with their unrelenting dedication to their athletic programs monetarily and success wise. To suggest Louisville is a CUSA at this point is just false.

It would be better if the ACC never expanded past 12 and the Big East still existed however imo.

You can thank Pitt in part for this....since the rumor is they cut a side deal that basically started the dominos falling and screwed the conference.

(04-30-2019 07:27 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:54 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:28 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:13 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  Kick out Temple, UCONN and Navy.

Bring in S. Miss., UAB, and UTEP.

No, being totally honest? UConn should be in the ACC and Louisville should be with us. Temple doesn't have the history with the other schools but fits nicely with the former MVC core, a city University with history trying to compete at the top level. Keep Navy and that footprint and history is pretty good. Well as much history as FBS UCF and USF can have at least lol.

UCONN and Temple in the ACC makes perfect sense. UL in CUSA also makes perfect sense.

I think Louisville’s earned (thru cheating or not) a spot in the ACC with their unrelenting dedication to their athletic programs monetarily and success wise. To suggest Louisville is a CUSA at this point is just false.

It would be better if the ACC never expanded past 12 and the Big East still existed however imo.

You can thank Pitt in part for this....since the rumor is they cut a side deal that basically started the dominos falling and screwed the conference.

That’s like blaming the refs for a bad call at the end of the game when you’ve had every opportunity to win it yourself.

The dominos started when the Big East voted NO to Penn State...moronic. That’s the biggest blunder in the history of realignment.

Instead, the basketball schools rejected them driving Miami, VT, and BC to the ACC. This is the date on Big East football’s headstone, not when Pitt left.

We were left with just 4 Big East teams, one being Rutgers LOL, 3 CUSA teams, and UConn, who was FCS just prior.

The Big East was long gone at this point. It didn’t die when Pitt and Syracuse left.

And the brand didn’t even die because of us. Prior to Louisville and Rutgers bolting we’d still have been calling our league the Big East and playing the C7 in basketball. The 2013 football season teams + us(Navy), Boise, SDSU, and like BYU would have been the league. You can thank Louisville for that not happening.

(04-30-2019 08:24 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 07:27 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:54 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:28 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 06:49 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  


No, being totally honest? UConn should be in the ACC and Louisville should be with us. Temple doesn't have the history with the other schools but fits nicely with the former MVC core, a city University with history trying to compete at the top level. Keep Navy and that footprint and history is pretty good. Well as much history as FBS UCF and USF can have at least lol.

UCONN and Temple in the ACC makes perfect sense. UL in CUSA also makes perfect sense.

I think Louisville’s earned (thru cheating or not) a spot in the ACC with their unrelenting dedication to their athletic programs monetarily and success wise. To suggest Louisville is a CUSA at this point is just false.

It would be better if the ACC never expanded past 12 and the Big East still existed however imo.

You can thank Pitt in part for this....since the rumor is they cut a side deal that basically started the dominos falling and screwed the conference.

That’s like blaming the refs for a bad call at the end of the game when you’ve had every opportunity to win it yourself.

The dominos started when the Big East voted NO to Penn State...moronic. That’s the biggest blunder in the history of realignment.

Instead, the basketball schools rejected them driving Miami, VT, and BC to the ACC. This is the date on Big East football’s headstone, not when Pitt left.

We were left with just 4 Big East teams, one being Rutgers LOL, 3 CUSA teams, and UConn, who was FCS just prior.

The Big East was long gone at this point. It didn’t die when Pitt and Syracuse left.

And the brand didn’t even die because of us. Prior to Louisville and Rutgers bolting we’d still have been calling our league the Big East and playing the C7 in basketball. The 2013 football season teams + us(Navy), Boise, SDSU, and like BYU would have been the league. You can thank Louisville for that not happening.

I've been meaning to ask you about the dual Pitt/Navy interest...

(04-30-2019 08:24 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  The dominos started when the Big East voted NO to Penn State...moronic. That’s the biggest blunder in the history of realignment.

Instead, the basketball schools rejected them driving Miami, VT, and BC to the ACC. This is the date on Big East football’s headstone, not when Pitt left.

The Big East rejected Penn State as a member in 1982, when the conference didn't sponsor football. Miami and Virginia Tech didn't join the Big East until 9 years later when the Big East added football in 1991. Virginia Tech didn't get an all-sports invite until 2000. So they joined on and weren't running away until later divides pushed them apart over football additions and the May 2011 vote to reject the ESPN tv deal that would have kept the Big East together.

(04-30-2019 10:23 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 08:24 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  The dominos started when the Big East voted NO to Penn State...moronic. That’s the biggest blunder in the history of realignment.

Instead, the basketball schools rejected them driving Miami, VT, and BC to the ACC. This is the date on Big East football’s headstone, not when Pitt left.

The Big East rejected Penn State as a member in 1982, when the conference didn't sponsor football. Miami and Virginia Tech didn't join the Big East until 9 years later when the Big East added football in 1991. Virginia Tech didn't get an all-sports invite until 2000. So they joined on and weren't running away until later divides pushed them apart over football additions and the May 2011 vote to reject the ESPN tv deal that would have kept the Big East together.

I knew something smelled fishy there. The ACC wanted BC, Miami and Syracuse but 'Cuse stayed and the Virginia legislature forced the hand of the ACC to get Virginia Tech in. Pitt and Syracuse did have a little something going on the side when the 11m per team deal was rejected. Had the football schools told the basketball schools to take a hike (as I believe they should have) then there'd still be a Big East Conference with Syracuse, Pitt, Rutty, WVA, Louisville CC, UConn, Temple, USF, TCU, BSU and I would think another Texas school. That would have been a good conference in my opinion.

(04-30-2019 10:32 AM)WhalerFan Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 10:23 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 08:24 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  The dominos started when the Big East voted NO to Penn State...moronic. That’s the biggest blunder in the history of realignment.

Instead, the basketball schools rejected them driving Miami, VT, and BC to the ACC. This is the date on Big East football’s headstone, not when Pitt left.

The Big East rejected Penn State as a member in 1982, when the conference didn't sponsor football. Miami and Virginia Tech didn't join the Big East until 9 years later when the Big East added football in 1991. Virginia Tech didn't get an all-sports invite until 2000. So they joined on and weren't running away until later divides pushed them apart over football additions and the May 2011 vote to reject the ESPN tv deal that would have kept the Big East together.

I knew something smelled fishy there. The ACC wanted BC, Miami and Syracuse but 'Cuse stayed and the Virginia legislature forced the hand of the ACC to get Virginia Tech in. Pitt and Syracuse did have a little something going on the side when the 11m per team deal was rejected. Had the football schools told the basketball schools to take a hike (as I believe they should have) then there'd still be a Big East Conference with Syracuse, Pitt, Rutty, WVA, Louisville CC, UConn, Temple, USF, TCU, BSU and I would think another Texas school. That would have been a good conference in my opinion.

Should have just readded Temple and added Memphis, TCU, Army from CUSA in 2005. Hindsight is 20/20 but having those 4 teams have a head start in the BCS Big East would have made the conference post realignment look different imo.

(04-30-2019 10:15 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 08:24 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-30-2019 07:27 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:54 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(04-29-2019 08:28 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  UCONN and Temple in the ACC makes perfect sense. UL in CUSA also makes perfect sense.

I think Louisville’s earned (thru cheating or not) a spot in the ACC with their unrelenting dedication to their athletic programs monetarily and success wise. To suggest Louisville is a CUSA at this point is just false.

It would be better if the ACC never expanded past 12 and the Big East still existed however imo.

You can thank Pitt in part for this....since the rumor is they cut a side deal that basically started the dominos falling and screwed the conference.

That’s like blaming the refs for a bad call at the end of the game when you’ve had every opportunity to win it yourself.

The dominos started when the Big East voted NO to Penn State...moronic. That’s the biggest blunder in the history of realignment.

Instead, the basketball schools rejected them driving Miami, VT, and BC to the ACC. This is the date on Big East football’s headstone, not when Pitt left.

We were left with just 4 Big East teams, one being Rutgers LOL, 3 CUSA teams, and UConn, who was FCS just prior.

The Big East was long gone at this point. It didn’t die when Pitt and Syracuse left.

And the brand didn’t even die because of us. Prior to Louisville and Rutgers bolting we’d still have been calling our league the Big East and playing the C7 in basketball. The 2013 football season teams + us(Navy), Boise, SDSU, and like BYU would have been the league. You can thank Louisville for that not happening.

I've been meaning to ask you about the dual Pitt/Navy interest...

Pitt for undergrad, did the Navy HPSP so I wasn’t crushed by medical school debt.