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(01-25-2019 05:20 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  
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(01-22-2019 03:05 PM)Usajags Wrote:  UConn is terrible at football, and they know it. If they drop to FCS, it could be the domino that starts another wave.

Wonder how many other schools are realistically looking at the finances of FBS football and athletics as a whole.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ll-aac-fcs
Two schools have dropped down in 40 years...

Two...

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Idaho and ?
Pacific, although they dropped the sport.

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(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
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(01-23-2019 08:37 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There has been a shift in Louisiana’s administration that wants to stay in an eastern based conference.

Don't know how accurate that is.

After LA, we recruit Texas more than other areas.

After LA, our largest alumni base is in Houston, TX.

Many of our major boosters do a LOT of business in Texas.

If the realignment Gods offer us a new Texas based league, we'll be taking that offer. Only thing better would be AAC membership.

We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.
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(01-25-2019 10:27 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
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(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 11:15 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(01-23-2019 08:37 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There has been a shift in Louisiana’s administration that wants to stay in an eastern based conference.

Don't know how accurate that is.

After LA, we recruit Texas more than other areas.

After LA, our largest alumni base is in Houston, TX.

Many of our major boosters do a LOT of business in Texas.

If the realignment Gods offer us a new Texas based league, we'll be taking that offer. Only thing better would be AAC membership.

We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.

texas tech does pretty well being west of san antonio.
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(01-26-2019 08:42 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 10:27 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 11:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 11:15 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  Don't know how accurate that is.

After LA, we recruit Texas more than other areas.

After LA, our largest alumni base is in Houston, TX.

Many of our major boosters do a LOT of business in Texas.

If the realignment Gods offer us a new Texas based league, we'll be taking that offer. Only thing better would be AAC membership.

We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.

texas tech does pretty well being west of san antonio.

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(01-26-2019 08:42 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 10:27 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 11:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 11:15 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  Don't know how accurate that is.

After LA, we recruit Texas more than other areas.

After LA, our largest alumni base is in Houston, TX.

Many of our major boosters do a LOT of business in Texas.

If the realignment Gods offer us a new Texas based league, we'll be taking that offer. Only thing better would be AAC membership.

We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.

texas tech does pretty well being west of san antonio.

Not if they weren’t in the Big 12. Put them in the MWC and they would suffer the same fate as the rest of the non P5 Texas schools.
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(01-26-2019 11:17 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-26-2019 08:42 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 10:27 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 11:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.

texas tech does pretty well being west of san antonio.

Not if they weren’t in the Big 12. Put them in the MWC and they would suffer the same fate as the rest of the non P5 Texas schools.

That’s not just west Texas, drop Vandals, Kentucky, Duke, Northwestern, most PAC12 schools out of their P5 conference and they will fault. With less money and attention, most anyone would lose.
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(01-25-2019 09:40 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  When I said two programs that make geographical sense and strengthen the Sun Belt's profile, I basically mean USM and Marshall.


USM and Marshall are the only two I see even remotely coming to the Sun Belt, and that's just slightly above zero. The other members of CUSA left the Belt, and I don't see them being able to justify with their fans the cost of flip-flopping.

I like Marshall as a football program. Routinely very strong, long history, and historic program. The only issue with them seems to be their location. A university located on the WV / Ohio border with App State being their closest opponent 6 hours away tot he north.

The argument could be made that having universities closer than farther from the existing core is more cost effective. Is Marshall that great of a program that SBC should go outside of their existing territory?



Whether we come or not I don't know. Whether we are worth it or not I think is a no brainer.

I think our history and fan base speaks for its self. We just had one of our worst attendance years in a long time as half our base is going on strike as they want a new football coach. Still averaged over 24k/game. In basketball we average almost 6,700/game. That's more than double the next highest in the Sun Belt.

Forget all this liberal socialism via conference realignment. If anything happens then the top programs need to form their own conference and leave the Coastals of the world behind.
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(01-25-2019 05:25 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  FAU, FIU and UNC-C are no brainers. The Florida's for the obvious and UNC-C for the rivalry with App as well as having the Ga state Atlanta connection with another major metro as a potential rival. Though UCF - Orlando and USF - Tampa have had nice early runs I can't see FAU and FIU - Miami sitting back allowing the feeding frenzy for long.
If the Sun Belt keeps knocking at the top of the G5 they're coming. Who would you rather be? If CUSA looses one or two at the top with the Sun Belt having a presence in Georgia including Atlanta, South Carolina and two solids in Alabama and the Florida's bolt for the Sun Belt what's left? Is the pressure too significant to fill the void or is CUSA that great? If Marshall and USM are proactive they'll see the damage done by staying put if the other is gone. Move to the Sun Belt with the Florida's now and the future looks more stable with less expense and more rivals.

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Are you wanting the Sun Belt to suck the same way it did when FIU and FAU were in it??? In a scenario that the CUSA bottom drops out, they aren't valuable adds whatsoever. And UNCC should never be considered, even if it does give App State a nearby rival... they've done nothing noteworthy that would raise the profile of the Sun Belt.
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(01-26-2019 02:29 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 05:25 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  FAU, FIU and UNC-C are no brainers. The Florida's for the obvious and UNC-C for the rivalry with App as well as having the Ga state Atlanta connection with another major metro as a potential rival. Though UCF - Orlando and USF - Tampa have had nice early runs I can't see FAU and FIU - Miami sitting back allowing the feeding frenzy for long.
If the Sun Belt keeps knocking at the top of the G5 they're coming. Who would you rather be? If CUSA looses one or two at the top with the Sun Belt having a presence in Georgia including Atlanta, South Carolina and two solids in Alabama and the Florida's bolt for the Sun Belt what's left? Is the pressure too significant to fill the void or is CUSA that great? If Marshall and USM are proactive they'll see the damage done by staying put if the other is gone. Move to the Sun Belt with the Florida's now and the future looks more stable with less expense and more rivals.

[Image: cd7b1c0a25192bc1d81dd312e04b04b9.jpg]

Are you wanting the Sun Belt to suck the same way it did when FIU and FAU were in it??? In a scenario that the CUSA bottom drops out, they aren't valuable adds whatsoever. And UNCC should never be considered, even if it does give App State a nearby rival... they've done nothing noteworthy that would raise the profile of the Sun Belt.

No. Pointed out earlier that we should say no to ANY adds. The Sun Belt is in an excellent position and that position doesn't go unnoticed. I'm simply pointing out that the strategy Benson or whoever came up with it was brilliant. Two states separate the east side of CUSA Georgia and South Carolina and four separate the east side of the AAC including Alabama and Mississippi. This will be the catalyst for change as the gap between CUSA and the Sun Belt becomes more obscure. IF Marshall and USM will consider the leverage this brings to the Sun Belt they will move now. Waiting will most certainly bring FIU and FAU and likely UNC-C. IF they come Marshall and USM and we quickly begin knocking on the G5 ceiling the potential for UCF and USF to consider taking advantage of the geography increases. You're either playing offense in this environment or your sitting waiting and hoping.

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(01-26-2019 06:44 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(01-26-2019 02:29 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 05:25 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  FAU, FIU and UNC-C are no brainers. The Florida's for the obvious and UNC-C for the rivalry with App as well as having the Ga state Atlanta connection with another major metro as a potential rival. Though UCF - Orlando and USF - Tampa have had nice early runs I can't see FAU and FIU - Miami sitting back allowing the feeding frenzy for long.
If the Sun Belt keeps knocking at the top of the G5 they're coming. Who would you rather be? If CUSA looses one or two at the top with the Sun Belt having a presence in Georgia including Atlanta, South Carolina and two solids in Alabama and the Florida's bolt for the Sun Belt what's left? Is the pressure too significant to fill the void or is CUSA that great? If Marshall and USM are proactive they'll see the damage done by staying put if the other is gone. Move to the Sun Belt with the Florida's now and the future looks more stable with less expense and more rivals.

[Image: cd7b1c0a25192bc1d81dd312e04b04b9.jpg]

Are you wanting the Sun Belt to suck the same way it did when FIU and FAU were in it??? In a scenario that the CUSA bottom drops out, they aren't valuable adds whatsoever. And UNCC should never be considered, even if it does give App State a nearby rival... they've done nothing noteworthy that would raise the profile of the Sun Belt.

No. Pointed out earlier that we should say no to ANY adds. The Sun Belt is in an excellent position and that position doesn't go unnoticed. I'm simply pointing out that the strategy Benson or whoever came up with it was brilliant. Two states separate the east side of CUSA Georgia and South Carolina and four separate the east side of the AAC including Alabama and Mississippi. This will be the catalyst for change as the gap between CUSA and the Sun Belt becomes more obscure. IF Marshall and USM will consider the leverage this brings to the Sun Belt they will move now. Waiting will most certainly bring FIU and FAU and likely UNC-C. IF they come Marshall and USM and we quickly begin knocking on the G5 ceiling the potential for UCF and USF to consider taking advantage of the geography increases. You're either playing offense in this environment or your sitting waiting and hoping.

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I like the way you think!!!! 04-cheers

The SBC really is in good position compared to all other G5 conferences, and even with the MAC(the MAC sucks). Geographically, we just need to ride this out and we will come out on top when it all ends. Do I think we will all stick together, “No”. If TxSt gets an opportunity to join a Texas conference, they will. If App gets a chance at being in a conference with Marshall and ECU, they will go. Honestly, if we have a chance to be in a conference with USM and Tulane, we will also go. I. The mean time, I just want my OCS!!!
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(01-25-2019 12:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 07:12 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 05:13 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 04:36 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let the AAC ink their TV deal before writing their obituary.

I can't see a massive increase for AAC. With ESPN's cord cutting woes I'm not sure I see them having the cash to offer any kind of significant increase to a non-P5.

Idaho has moved down. If UConn moves down too I think it removes the stigma and shows other struggling programs it's ok to make the tough financial decision.

I think they'll get 3-4x their current amount personally. Even that is still just a small dent in uconns problem however

either will moving to the BE...not only do they have to pay an exit and entrance fee but making 5 million vs 2 million in TV money isn't going to fix UConn's spending problem.
I can't see $5M happening. You simply can't ignore the fact that you guys have some extremely dead weight in your conference with some schools that should never have been added. I think you'll soon see Memphis being a participant in an airport meeting that'll result in you guys leaving the AAC and ditching all that dead weight.
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(01-25-2019 10:27 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
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(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 11:15 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  
(01-23-2019 08:37 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  There has been a shift in Louisiana’s administration that wants to stay in an eastern based conference.

Don't know how accurate that is.

After LA, we recruit Texas more than other areas.

After LA, our largest alumni base is in Houston, TX.

Many of our major boosters do a LOT of business in Texas.

If the realignment Gods offer us a new Texas based league, we'll be taking that offer. Only thing better would be AAC membership.

We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.

If you're waiting on that scenario I think you'll be waiting a long time. If Big 12 expands Houston will surely be a part of it. They are preparing for it by pouring tons of cash into the program and benefit from having a billionaire on the BOT to foot the bill. I think the group would likely be: A State, La Tech, Louisiana, NMSU, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulsa, ULM, UNT, UTEP, UTSA.
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(01-27-2019 07:18 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 10:27 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 11:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 11:15 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  Don't know how accurate that is.

After LA, we recruit Texas more than other areas.

After LA, our largest alumni base is in Houston, TX.

Many of our major boosters do a LOT of business in Texas.

If the realignment Gods offer us a new Texas based league, we'll be taking that offer. Only thing better would be AAC membership.

We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.

If you're waiting on that scenario I think you'll be waiting a long time. If Big 12 expands Houston will surely be a part of it. They are preparing for it by pouring tons of cash into the program and benefit from having a billionaire on the BOT to foot the bill. I think the group would likely be: A State, La Tech, Louisiana, NMSU, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulsa, ULM, UNT, UTEP, UTSA.

I’m not waiting for any scenario. I want Louisiana to be the very best we can be. We have a few more steps to go to get there. If we can do all of that then I don’t care where we are. We will be a top 5 G5 athletic department. If that’s in the SBC, CUSA, AAC or any other league I don’t care.
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(01-27-2019 07:18 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 10:27 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 11:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 02:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 11:15 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  Don't know how accurate that is.

After LA, we recruit Texas more than other areas.

After LA, our largest alumni base is in Houston, TX.

Many of our major boosters do a LOT of business in Texas.

If the realignment Gods offer us a new Texas based league, we'll be taking that offer. Only thing better would be AAC membership.

We will not accept any invite that has us consistently playing west of San Antonio. If the western edge is Houston and Dallas then yes we would be interested. But that is highly unlikely.

That make sense since---really, there isnt much population west of San Antonio anyway. UTEP is the only Texas based FBS team in that area--and they struggle to recruit to that area. Basically, the only conferences centered west of San Antonio are the MW and Pac12. Would ULL join the MW if they invited them? Interesting question. If ULL was invited I suspect it would have to be part of a 4 team expansion--something like N Texas, Rice, LaTech, and ULL. Those 4 would likely pair with Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, and New Mexico to be the east division of the MW. The TV exposure would likley be similar to what they have now---earning abut 1.5-2 million a year on ESPN, CBS-Sports, and some streaming outlet (Probably STADIUM of ESPN+). In that scenario---I bet ULL would make the move.

While that would be a possibility, it would have to include Houston, SMU and LaTurd/stAte for Louisiana to make a move. I’m just relating how I’ve heard our administration feels at this time.

It would have to pay $5-7M per team to even justify the travel.

If you're waiting on that scenario I think you'll be waiting a long time. If Big 12 expands Houston will surely be a part of it. They are preparing for it by pouring tons of cash into the program and benefit from having a billionaire on the BOT to foot the bill. I think the group would likely be: A State, La Tech, Louisiana, NMSU, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulsa, ULM, UNT, UTEP, UTSA.

Where do I sign up for that conference?
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RE: Possible reason for conference realignment. AAC news
(01-27-2019 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 07:12 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 05:13 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 04:36 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Let the AAC ink their TV deal before writing their obituary.

I can't see a massive increase for AAC. With ESPN's cord cutting woes I'm not sure I see them having the cash to offer any kind of significant increase to a non-P5.

Idaho has moved down. If UConn moves down too I think it removes the stigma and shows other struggling programs it's ok to make the tough financial decision.

I think they'll get 3-4x their current amount personally. Even that is still just a small dent in uconns problem however

either will moving to the BE...not only do they have to pay an exit and entrance fee but making 5 million vs 2 million in TV money isn't going to fix UConn's spending problem.
I can't see $5M happening. You simply can't ignore the fact that you guys have some extremely dead weight in your conference with some schools that should never have been added. I think you'll soon see Memphis being a participant in an airport meeting that'll result in you guys leaving the AAC and ditching all that dead weight.

5 million is what the BE pays and 2 million is what the AAC pays....

I'm saying that making an extra 3 million per year after paying an exit and entrance fee isn't going to fix UConn's problems.

I'd rather have Tulane over La Tech...nothing personal.

If I had to guess about our next contract I'd say the AAC sticks with ESPN and we extend until 2026...6 years, 50 million per year, 4.16 million per team. (thanks to Houston and UCF Access Bowl runs and UConn's titles in Men's and Women's hoops)
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RE: Possible reason for conference realignment. AAC news
(01-27-2019 12:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-27-2019 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 07:12 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 05:13 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  I can't see a massive increase for AAC. With ESPN's cord cutting woes I'm not sure I see them having the cash to offer any kind of significant increase to a non-P5.

Idaho has moved down. If UConn moves down too I think it removes the stigma and shows other struggling programs it's ok to make the tough financial decision.

I think they'll get 3-4x their current amount personally. Even that is still just a small dent in uconns problem however

either will moving to the BE...not only do they have to pay an exit and entrance fee but making 5 million vs 2 million in TV money isn't going to fix UConn's spending problem.
I can't see $5M happening. You simply can't ignore the fact that you guys have some extremely dead weight in your conference with some schools that should never have been added. I think you'll soon see Memphis being a participant in an airport meeting that'll result in you guys leaving the AAC and ditching all that dead weight.

5 million is what the BE pays and 2 million is what the AAC pays....

I'm saying that making an extra 3 million per year after paying an exit and entrance fee isn't going to fix UConn's problems.

I'd rather have Tulane over La Tech...nothing personal.

If I had to guess about our next contract I'd say the AAC sticks with ESPN and we extend until 2026...6 years, 50 million per year, 4.16 million per team. (thanks to Houston and UCF Access Bowl runs and UConn's titles in Men's and Women's hoops)

Yep.

The AAC will hold firm.

If there is going to be any action, look to the front range schools.
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(01-27-2019 12:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-27-2019 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 07:12 PM)Niner National Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 05:13 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  I can't see a massive increase for AAC. With ESPN's cord cutting woes I'm not sure I see them having the cash to offer any kind of significant increase to a non-P5.

Idaho has moved down. If UConn moves down too I think it removes the stigma and shows other struggling programs it's ok to make the tough financial decision.

I think they'll get 3-4x their current amount personally. Even that is still just a small dent in uconns problem however

either will moving to the BE...not only do they have to pay an exit and entrance fee but making 5 million vs 2 million in TV money isn't going to fix UConn's spending problem.
I can't see $5M happening. You simply can't ignore the fact that you guys have some extremely dead weight in your conference with some schools that should never have been added. I think you'll soon see Memphis being a participant in an airport meeting that'll result in you guys leaving the AAC and ditching all that dead weight.

5 million is what the BE pays and 2 million is what the AAC pays....

I'm saying that making an extra 3 million per year after paying an exit and entrance fee isn't going to fix UConn's problems.

I'd rather have Tulane over La Tech...nothing personal.

If I had to guess about our next contract I'd say the AAC sticks with ESPN and we extend until 2026...6 years, 50 million per year, 4.16 million per team. (thanks to Houston and UCF Access Bowl runs and UConn's titles in Men's and Women's hoops)
None of this is personal. It's ALL business. That's why the P5 is doing to us what they're doing to us. You guys in the AAC may be the reigning champs of the tallest midget leagues, but like the rest of us, you're still midgets in the world of college athletics.

This likely all ends with either two separate divisions, or with the P5 going its separate way entirely. Either way, we're all going to be relegated to becoming 2nd class citizens in the world of college sports. That's when common sense will eventually win out and we'll see some regional realigning of G5 conferences. When the money drys up, we'll have no other choice.
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(01-22-2019 03:05 PM)Usajags Wrote:  UConn is terrible at football, and they know it. If they drop to FCS, it could be the domino that starts another wave.

Wonder how many other schools are realistically looking at the finances of FBS football and athletics as a whole.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ll-aac-fcs

UConn won't drop football. They may very well drop a couple of minor sports to reduce overhead. The AAC will get 6mil plus very soon, and then talks of BE will fade. 03-cloud9
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(01-28-2019 06:34 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-27-2019 12:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-27-2019 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-22-2019 07:12 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I think they'll get 3-4x their current amount personally. Even that is still just a small dent in uconns problem however

either will moving to the BE...not only do they have to pay an exit and entrance fee but making 5 million vs 2 million in TV money isn't going to fix UConn's spending problem.
I can't see $5M happening. You simply can't ignore the fact that you guys have some extremely dead weight in your conference with some schools that should never have been added. I think you'll soon see Memphis being a participant in an airport meeting that'll result in you guys leaving the AAC and ditching all that dead weight.

5 million is what the BE pays and 2 million is what the AAC pays....

I'm saying that making an extra 3 million per year after paying an exit and entrance fee isn't going to fix UConn's problems.

I'd rather have Tulane over La Tech...nothing personal.

If I had to guess about our next contract I'd say the AAC sticks with ESPN and we extend until 2026...6 years, 50 million per year, 4.16 million per team. (thanks to Houston and UCF Access Bowl runs and UConn's titles in Men's and Women's hoops)
None of this is personal. It's ALL business. I never said otherwise That's why the P5 is doing to us what they're doing to us. You guys in the AAC may be the reigning champs of the tallest midget leagues and we plan to keep it that way, but like the rest of us, you're still midgets in the world of college athletics. I feel Memphis is in a FAR better position in the AAC than we ever were in CUSA...

This likely all ends with either two separate divisions, or with the P5 going its separate way entirely. I don't agree... Either way, we're all going to be relegated to becoming 2nd class citizens in the world of college sports. again, I don't agree That's when common sense will eventually win out and we'll see some regional realigning of G5 conferences. When the money drys up, we'll have no other choice.

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(01-29-2019 02:10 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-28-2019 06:34 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-27-2019 12:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-27-2019 04:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-25-2019 12:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  either will moving to the BE...not only do they have to pay an exit and entrance fee but making 5 million vs 2 million in TV money isn't going to fix UConn's spending problem.
I can't see $5M happening. You simply can't ignore the fact that you guys have some extremely dead weight in your conference with some schools that should never have been added. I think you'll soon see Memphis being a participant in an airport meeting that'll result in you guys leaving the AAC and ditching all that dead weight.

5 million is what the BE pays and 2 million is what the AAC pays....

I'm saying that making an extra 3 million per year after paying an exit and entrance fee isn't going to fix UConn's problems.

I'd rather have Tulane over La Tech...nothing personal.

If I had to guess about our next contract I'd say the AAC sticks with ESPN and we extend until 2026...6 years, 50 million per year, 4.16 million per team. (thanks to Houston and UCF Access Bowl runs and UConn's titles in Men's and Women's hoops)
None of this is personal. It's ALL business. I never said otherwise That's why the P5 is doing to us what they're doing to us. You guys in the AAC may be the reigning champs of the tallest midget leagues and we plan to keep it that way, but like the rest of us, you're still midgets in the world of college athletics. I feel Memphis is in a FAR better position in the AAC than we ever were in CUSA...

This likely all ends with either two separate divisions, or with the P5 going its separate way entirely. I don't agree... Either way, we're all going to be relegated to becoming 2nd class citizens in the world of college sports. again, I don't agree That's when common sense will eventually win out and we'll see some regional realigning of G5 conferences. When the money drys up, we'll have no other choice.

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A far better position for now, but eventually, reality will sink in and even dreamers like yourself will come to terms with the fact that you simply didn't make the cut. You were left out of the big boys party just like every other G5 program was. Your home is the G5 now. Get used to it.
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