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(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

There's an insult in here somewhere
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(01-21-2019 10:36 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in the top 25. Followed by "My Interpretation" This seems to happen to the Sun Belt because no matter how solid the performance with three teams receiving votes we continue to inhale vigorously and nothing has changed. Passive aggression or back handed complement or whatever it's a dichotomy of words that make little if any sense.

No. It was saying this is not the first year the Sun Belt has been screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. It's me saying the Sun Belt has deserved Top 25 rankings in the past. It's me saying the Sunbelt has been underrated.
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(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

Ouch for the Ga Southern fans on that one.
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(01-21-2019 10:55 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

There's an insult in here somewhere

I mean no disrespect. You guys were coming off a 2-10 season, and the pollsters who would punish APP for losing to you had not yet realized you would be a 10 win team this season. It usually takes another 10 win season to convince them it wasn't a fluke.
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(01-21-2019 11:14 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

Ouch for the Ga Southern fans on that one.

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Quote:GS was not ranked at the end of the year because we lost to Troy. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome that loss. Losing to Clemson and bowl eligible ULM hurt too.
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(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

App finished 26th this year. If they let Boise finish out their bowl game, they lose and App is ranked. Weather.
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(01-21-2019 01:14 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

App finished 26th this year. If they let Boise finish out their bowl game, they lose and App is ranked. Weather.

They were 23rd. Boise had 184 votes, APP had 96. A close loss would not be enough. They would have had to get demolished. I don't think they would have. It's 100% certain though had you not lost to Georgia Southern, you would be ranked. GS fans can be miffed by that comment if they want, but it doesn't make it less true.
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(01-21-2019 01:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
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(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

App finished 26th this year. If they let Boise finish out their bowl game, they lose and App is ranked. Weather.

They were 23rd. Boise had 184 votes, APP had 96. A close loss would not be enough. They would have had to get demolished. I don't think they would have. It's 100% certain though had you not lost to Georgia Southern, you would be ranked. GS fans can be miffed by that comment if they want, but it doesn't make it less true.

When you are 23rd and you lose, you fall out of the poll, especially a G5 program at 9-4.

If App doesn't lose to GS they finish in the top 15.
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(01-21-2019 01:14 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

App finished 26th this year. If they let Boise finish out their bowl game, they lose and App is ranked. Weather.


Yep. Or any of those other teams who finished 20-25. If they lose they most likely get jumped by App. Just one of those crazy years. 9/10 times App would have finished ranked imo.
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(01-21-2019 01:35 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 01:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 01:14 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

App finished 26th this year. If they let Boise finish out their bowl game, they lose and App is ranked. Weather.

They were 23rd. Boise had 184 votes, APP had 96. A close loss would not be enough. They would have had to get demolished. I don't think they would have. It's 100% certain though had you not lost to Georgia Southern, you would be ranked. GS fans can be miffed by that comment if they want, but it doesn't make it less true.

When you are 23rd and you lose, you fall out of the poll, especially a G5 program at 9-4.

If App doesn't lose to GS they finish in the top 15.

Definitely Top 20 and very well could have finished in Top 15....and deservedly so! Congrats on a good year!
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(01-21-2019 01:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 01:14 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

App finished 26th this year. If they let Boise finish out their bowl game, they lose and App is ranked. Weather.

They were 23rd. Boise had 184 votes, APP had 96. A close loss would not be enough. They would have had to get demolished. I don't think they would have. It's 100% certain though had you not lost to Georgia Southern, you would be ranked. GS fans can be miffed by that comment if they want, but it doesn't make it less true.

We love the fact that App State wasn't ranked at the end of the season because of us. That is nothing short of delicious.

I think we're miffed by your implication that App's lost to us is just as embarrassing as Troy's loss to Liberty
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(01-21-2019 02:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I think we're miffed by your implication that App's lost to us is just as embarrassing as Troy's loss to Liberty

It's not, and I never said it was. You guys made that connection on your own. I said the pollsters kept APP and TROY out of the Top 25 because we lost to Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, Georgia Southern. What about that isn't true? You could put Arkansas State in that category too when they beat the brakes off Troy. Was it as embarrasing as the Liberty loss? No. Did it take us out of the Top 25 and rocket us back to practically no votes? Yes.
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(01-21-2019 11:54 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 11:14 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

Ouch for the Ga Southern fans on that one.

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Quote:GS was not ranked at the end of the year because we lost to Troy. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome that loss. Losing to Clemson and bowl eligible ULM hurt too.

The only way y'all would have been ranked after getting blown out by ULM is by beating the crap out of every team on the rest of your schedule, and even that might not have been enough for the voters. Losing to Troy just sealed the deal.
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(01-21-2019 02:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 01:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 01:14 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 10:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

App finished 26th this year. If they let Boise finish out their bowl game, they lose and App is ranked. Weather.

They were 23rd. Boise had 184 votes, APP had 96. A close loss would not be enough. They would have had to get demolished. I don't think they would have. It's 100% certain though had you not lost to Georgia Southern, you would be ranked. GS fans can be miffed by that comment if they want, but it doesn't make it less true.

We love the fact that App State wasn't ranked at the end of the season because of us. That is nothing short of delicious.

I think we're miffed by your implication that App's lost to us is just as embarrassing as Troy's loss to Liberty

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(01-21-2019 02:46 PM)debragga Wrote:  
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(01-21-2019 11:14 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  
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(01-20-2019 10:50 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  The Sun Belt has never finished with a team ranked in Top 25 but I don't say that to bash. I only say that to say this, I think this is one of the years where the Sun Belt got screwed out of a Top 25 ranking. Most years App would have finished ranked. Just so happened that pretty much every team in front of them won their bowl games. There was a year or two where the same thing happened to Troy if I am remembering correctly.

Troy and APP have not been ranked at the end of the year because we've lost to teams like Liberty, South Alabama, UMASS, and Georgia Southern. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome those losses.

Ouch for the Ga Southern fans on that one.

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Quote:GS was not ranked at the end of the year because we lost to Troy. I don't think other teams losing their bowls would have been enough to overcome that loss. Losing to Clemson and bowl eligible ULM hurt too.

The only way y'all would have been ranked after getting blown out by ULM is by beating the crap out of every team on the rest of your schedule, and even that might not have been enough for the voters. Losing to Troy just sealed the deal.

I stand corrected. Can't argue with a ULM fan. The GS loss to ULM = loss to UMass and Liberty.
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(01-21-2019 04:39 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  I stand corrected. Can't argue with a ULM fan. The GS loss to ULM = loss to UMass and Liberty.

I wouldn't go that far, but for a team that was in contention for the Sun Belt East, getting the **** kicked out of you by the 3rd place team in the west is a bad loss. It's also a loss that will keep you from getting ranked, regardless of the travel situation in the previous weeks, because the people who decide who gets ranked don't know/care about that.
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(01-21-2019 04:45 PM)debragga Wrote:  
(01-21-2019 04:39 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  I stand corrected. Can't argue with a ULM fan. The GS loss to ULM = loss to UMass and Liberty.

I wouldn't go that far, but for a team that was in contention for the Sun Belt East, getting the **** kicked out of you by the 3rd place team in the west is a bad loss. It's also a loss that will keep you from getting ranked, regardless of the travel situation in the previous weeks, because the people who decide who gets ranked don't know/care about that.

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I could give two poops if the Cajuns don’t get ranked after a 12-2 season. You can not rank us for a decade for all I care. If we were able to stack several 10 win seasons in a row I’ll be as happy as a pig in you know what.
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(01-20-2019 06:31 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  You know, I think we should make a deal with App fans...

We'll let App have the win for 2018.

In return, we get:
The win for 2015 where our defensive QB (Matt Dobson) and our best receiver (BJ Johnson) was out and made us unable to make App pay for their safeties pinning their ears back.
The win for 2013 where Jerick McKinnon left the game early and Dominique Swope didn't play.
The win for 2012 where Dominique Swope didn't play.
The win for 2005 win where Jayson Foster was limping around and didn't stat.
The win for 2003 where Chaz Williams was hurt and Trey Hunter played the.

Deal?

Difference is, expect for 2013 and maybe 03, App was clearly the better team those years.
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(01-21-2019 10:59 PM)CoachWillRob Wrote:  
(01-20-2019 06:31 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  You know, I think we should make a deal with App fans...

We'll let App have the win for 2018.

In return, we get:
The win for 2015 where our defensive QB (Matt Dobson) and our best receiver (BJ Johnson) was out and made us unable to make App pay for their safeties pinning their ears back.
The win for 2013 where Jerick McKinnon left the game early and Dominique Swope didn't play.
The win for 2012 where Dominique Swope didn't play.
The win for 2005 win where Jayson Foster was limping around and didn't stat.
The win for 2003 where Chaz Williams was hurt and Trey Hunter played the.

Deal?

Difference is, expect for 2013 and maybe 03, App was clearly the better team those years.


Oh yeah, clearly.


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