(12-10-2018 08:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:43 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  How often would NMSU have to make the NCAA as an at-large to justify the travel costs?

How frequent have they?

The answer to these two questions provide reason this discussion.

Yeah, they're not going to make us a multi-bid league.

It's not about multi-bids.

It's about UNITS, i. e. Tourney wins.

Ok, question remains how often do they need to win to make up the travel expenses? And this would need to be in excess of the wins we’ve experienced.

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

Like i said earlier. We're the closest team to them and I still would never drive there.

(12-10-2018 09:54 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

I do miss the baseball games in Las Cruces though. Those 19-17 games with 8 homers were a lot of fun...

But otherwise yeah, travel is horrible. I know everyone says its a flight to El Paso and a bus to Las Cruces, but getting to El Paso aint easy. We've done it a few times in Women's Basketball, and it was an extremely difficult trip.

(12-10-2018 09:54 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

How does App get to Texas-Arlington or Texas State or ULM?

It's a drive and a flight. NMSU is not Idaho

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NMSU is a 10 hour bus ride from the nearest SBC school.

NMSU is an Idaho.

(12-09-2018 10:20 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  2 ways you make money for your conference.

Boosting CFP numbers or BBall tourney units.

NMSU qualifies.

If you can add them in a way that doesn't blow your overhead in travel, you do it. In this case, that would be as a travel partner with UTEP or as a trade off with an addition to the east.

If I'm the next commissioner, I'm finding a way to make this happen.

Sun Belt is a one bid league, sooooo it doesn't matter we get one team in.

(12-11-2018 10:52 AM)panama Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 09:54 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

How does App get to Texas-Arlington or Texas State or ULM?

It's a drive and a flight. NMSU is not Idaho

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Well...UTA is essentially in Dallas. They just bus to Charlotte and hop on a plane to Dallas and bingo.

ULM and AState are most certainly flights for the App football team, but Olympic Sports could reasonably bus those trips. Considering we do travel partners in basketball, they can simply fly into Lafayette or Little Rock without issue in that sport. I think we sometimes make the mistake and assume that traveling in football is the same as traveling in an Olympic Sport. Most schools have enough money budgeted for football to fly most places. Olympic Sports is another matter. You've got a limited budget, and so you have to find the cheapest flights

When AState went to UTEP for the WNIT a few years back, we had to bus to Little Rock. Fly to Austin, and then catch a connecting flight to El Paso.

(12-11-2018 01:11 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 10:52 AM)panama Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 09:54 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

How does App get to Texas-Arlington or Texas State or ULM?

It's a drive and a flight. NMSU is not Idaho

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Well...UTA is essentially in Dallas. They just bus to Charlotte and hop on a plane to Dallas and bingo.

ULM and AState are most certainly flights for the App football team, but Olympic Sports could reasonably bus those trips. Considering we do travel partners in basketball, they can simply fly into Lafayette or Little Rock without issue in that sport. I think we sometimes make the mistake and assume that traveling in football is the same as traveling in an Olympic Sport. Most schools have enough money budgeted for football to fly most places. Olympic Sports is another matter. You've got a limited budget, and so you have to find the cheapest flights

When AState went to UTEP for the WNIT a few years back, we had to bus to Little Rock. Fly to Austin, and then catch a connecting flight to El Paso.

Personally, I would rather have an All Sports conference with NMSU and Liberty than our current setup with UTA and UALR.

(12-11-2018 02:35 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  Personally, I would rather have an All Sports conference with NMSU and Liberty than our current setup with UTA and UALR.

I mean if we're going All Sports with far flung conference members and with what looks like an eye toward basketball, go bigger than Liberty: NMSU and UMass

(12-11-2018 12:41 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:20 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  2 ways you make money for your conference.

Boosting CFP numbers or BBall tourney units.

NMSU qualifies.

If you can add them in a way that doesn't blow your overhead in travel, you do it. In this case, that would be as a travel partner with UTEP or as a trade off with an addition to the east.

If I'm the next commissioner, I'm finding a way to make this happen.

Sun Belt is a one bid league, sooooo it doesn't matter we get one team in.

I never said they would get us a multi-bid. They will give us a better chance at better seeding in the Tourney, which will give us better chances for wins, which means more units, which means more MONEY for all of us.

(12-11-2018 02:51 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 02:35 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  Personally, I would rather have an All Sports conference with NMSU and Liberty than our current setup with UTA and UALR.

I mean if we're going All Sports with far flung conference members and with what looks like an eye toward basketball, go bigger than Liberty: NMSU and UMass

UMass is interesting...

Id take NMSU and UMass if they bring basketball

(12-11-2018 08:05 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 12:41 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:20 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  2 ways you make money for your conference.

Boosting CFP numbers or BBall tourney units.

NMSU qualifies.

If you can add them in a way that doesn't blow your overhead in travel, you do it. In this case, that would be as a travel partner with UTEP or as a trade off with an addition to the east.

If I'm the next commissioner, I'm finding a way to make this happen.

Sun Belt is a one bid league, sooooo it doesn't matter we get one team in.

I never said they would get us a multi-bid. They will give us a better chance at better seeding in the Tourney, which will give us better chances for wins, which means more units, which means more MONEY for all of us.

This is simple math, doesn’t work.

(12-11-2018 08:07 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 02:51 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 02:35 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  Personally, I would rather have an All Sports conference with NMSU and Liberty than our current setup with UTA and UALR.

I mean if we're going All Sports with far flung conference members and with what looks like an eye toward basketball, go bigger than Liberty: NMSU and UMass

UMass is interesting...

Id take NMSU and UMass if they bring basketball

UMass will never leave A10 basketball for a one bid league. The reason they are FBS independent right now is because the MAC dropped them after they refused to become a full member.

(12-11-2018 11:00 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  NMSU is a 10 hour bus ride from the nearest SBC school.

NMSU is an Idaho.

the key to that would be to hit up some donors for enough cash to have a charter jet to use. seems like back in the day, many schools had the use of major league baseball team planes because it was the off season. every town that has a decent college probably has an airport nearby.

(12-11-2018 09:09 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 08:07 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 02:51 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 02:35 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  Personally, I would rather have an All Sports conference with NMSU and Liberty than our current setup with UTA and UALR.

I mean if we're going All Sports with far flung conference members and with what looks like an eye toward basketball, go bigger than Liberty: NMSU and UMass

UMass is interesting...

Id take NMSU and UMass if they bring basketball

UMass will never leave A10 basketball for a one bid league. The reason they are FBS independent right now is because the MAC dropped them after they refused to become a full member.

I agree, even as a UTA fan, it makes more sense to me for the 'Belt to have full members, although UMass is a stretch. As for NMSU, it's a crying shame that they are not in the same conference with their natural rivals, UTEP and UNM. Like Idaho, they are geographically isolated and probably destined for downgrade to FCS, unless they can get the same kind of State funding that has allowed Hawaii to persist. Talk about a travel disadvantage!

(12-10-2018 09:54 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

Hell it’s a two goat trip just for the booners to get to the nearest greyhound stop for any away game. That’s at least a half day if you factor in watering, feeding, and cuddling.

(12-13-2018 10:57 PM)StatesboroBluesman Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 09:54 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

Hell it’s a two goat trip just for the booners to get to the nearest greyhound stop for any away game. That’s at least a half day if you factor in watering, feeding, and cuddling.

mountain west should take nmsu and utep in and get it over with. I think UM blocks them every time this comes up.

(12-10-2018 11:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 09:54 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-09-2018 10:44 AM)Hemi Man Wrote:  That’s a nightmare financially for travel in all sports.

its a flight to El Paso, TX

Yeah...if you're in Atlanta.

If you're in Boone, it's a two hour bus ride. followed by a connecting flight to El Paso and then an hour bus ride.

And, I don't think most of you realize how far Las Cruces is from the footprint.

For example: Monroe to Las Cruces 964 miles
Monroe to Pittsburgh 1087 miles.

And Monroe is one of the more centrally located teams in the league.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Now, let's travel there each year for mens' and women's basketball. Then let's go for volleyball. Now every other year for soccer, baseball and softball.

There's a reason why they aren't in the league folks.

I'd love to compete against them in hoops. But that doesn't come close to overcoming the negatives.

I do miss the baseball games in Las Cruces though. Those 19-17 games with 8 homers were a lot of fun...

But otherwise yeah, travel is horrible. I know everyone says its a flight to El Paso and a bus to Las Cruces, but getting to El Paso aint easy. We've done it a few times in Women's Basketball, and it was an extremely difficult trip.

NMSU is not a natural fit which gets expensive in time as well as money.